Finite Engel group is nilpotent.












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A group $G$ is said to be $n$ engel if



$$[x,[x, dots ,[x,y]]dots ]=1,$$



where $x$ appears $n$ times, and this holds for all $x,yin G$.



We know there is infinite order engel group which is not nilpotent.




But what can we say about finite order engel groups, are they always nilpotent?











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    Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
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    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:00






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    The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
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    – Nicky Hekster
    Jan 3 at 10:09










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    #Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
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    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:14








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    This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
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    – Derek Holt
    Jan 3 at 11:40
















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$begingroup$


A group $G$ is said to be $n$ engel if



$$[x,[x, dots ,[x,y]]dots ]=1,$$



where $x$ appears $n$ times, and this holds for all $x,yin G$.



We know there is infinite order engel group which is not nilpotent.




But what can we say about finite order engel groups, are they always nilpotent?











share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    You'll find that simple "Here's the statement of my question, solve it for me" posts will be poorly received. What is better is for you to add context (with an edit): What you understand about the problem, what you've tried so far, etc.; something both to show you are part of the learning experience and to help us guide you to the appropriate help. You can consult this link for further guidance.
    $endgroup$
    – Shaun
    Jan 3 at 9:55










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:00






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – Nicky Hekster
    Jan 3 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    #Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:14








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Holt
    Jan 3 at 11:40














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$begingroup$


A group $G$ is said to be $n$ engel if



$$[x,[x, dots ,[x,y]]dots ]=1,$$



where $x$ appears $n$ times, and this holds for all $x,yin G$.



We know there is infinite order engel group which is not nilpotent.




But what can we say about finite order engel groups, are they always nilpotent?











share|cite|improve this question











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A group $G$ is said to be $n$ engel if



$$[x,[x, dots ,[x,y]]dots ]=1,$$



where $x$ appears $n$ times, and this holds for all $x,yin G$.



We know there is infinite order engel group which is not nilpotent.




But what can we say about finite order engel groups, are they always nilpotent?








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edited Jan 3 at 10:02









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  • $begingroup$
    You'll find that simple "Here's the statement of my question, solve it for me" posts will be poorly received. What is better is for you to add context (with an edit): What you understand about the problem, what you've tried so far, etc.; something both to show you are part of the learning experience and to help us guide you to the appropriate help. You can consult this link for further guidance.
    $endgroup$
    – Shaun
    Jan 3 at 9:55










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:00






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – Nicky Hekster
    Jan 3 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    #Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:14








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Holt
    Jan 3 at 11:40


















  • $begingroup$
    You'll find that simple "Here's the statement of my question, solve it for me" posts will be poorly received. What is better is for you to add context (with an edit): What you understand about the problem, what you've tried so far, etc.; something both to show you are part of the learning experience and to help us guide you to the appropriate help. You can consult this link for further guidance.
    $endgroup$
    – Shaun
    Jan 3 at 9:55










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:00






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – Nicky Hekster
    Jan 3 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    #Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
    $endgroup$
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Jan 3 at 10:14








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Holt
    Jan 3 at 11:40
















$begingroup$
You'll find that simple "Here's the statement of my question, solve it for me" posts will be poorly received. What is better is for you to add context (with an edit): What you understand about the problem, what you've tried so far, etc.; something both to show you are part of the learning experience and to help us guide you to the appropriate help. You can consult this link for further guidance.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Jan 3 at 9:55




$begingroup$
You'll find that simple "Here's the statement of my question, solve it for me" posts will be poorly received. What is better is for you to add context (with an edit): What you understand about the problem, what you've tried so far, etc.; something both to show you are part of the learning experience and to help us guide you to the appropriate help. You can consult this link for further guidance.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Jan 3 at 9:55












$begingroup$
Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
$endgroup$
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Jan 3 at 10:00




$begingroup$
Actually, I was studying about the Engel groups and this question arises that weather finite $n$ Engel groups are nilpotent or not.
$endgroup$
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Jan 3 at 10:00




1




1




$begingroup$
The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
$endgroup$
– Nicky Hekster
Jan 3 at 10:09




$begingroup$
The answer is YES (Zorn, 1936), see groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf
$endgroup$
– Nicky Hekster
Jan 3 at 10:09












$begingroup$
#Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
$endgroup$
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Jan 3 at 10:14






$begingroup$
#Nicky Hekster thanks for the reply, $groupsstandrews.org/2009/Talks/Traustason.pdf$ here only statement is given please tell me that how to prove this result.
$endgroup$
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Jan 3 at 10:14






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2




$begingroup$
This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
$endgroup$
– Derek Holt
Jan 3 at 11:40




$begingroup$
This looks like a reasonable request about the state of knowledge concerning a research topic rather than a "here is my problem solve it for me" question, so I would not vote for closing it for lack of context.
$endgroup$
– Derek Holt
Jan 3 at 11:40










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