$ X_i $ is discrete random variable, Compute $ sum X_i = 97 $












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Let $ X_1, X_2, , dots , X_{10} $ be a discrete random variable with uniform distribution between $ 0 $ to $ 10 $. Compute $ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } $, the variables are independent.



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So I can either get 97 by having nine 10's and a 7, eight 10's and 9 & 8 or seven 10's and three 9's ?



$$ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } = {10 choose 1 } cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 2} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 3} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} $$










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    Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
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    Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
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Let $ X_1, X_2, , dots , X_{10} $ be a discrete random variable with uniform distribution between $ 0 $ to $ 10 $. Compute $ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } $, the variables are independent.



My attempt:



So I can either get 97 by having nine 10's and a 7, eight 10's and 9 & 8 or seven 10's and three 9's ?



$$ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } = {10 choose 1 } cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 2} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 3} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} $$










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    Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
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    – Matti P.
    Jan 3 at 9:54












  • $begingroup$
    Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 9:58














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Let $ X_1, X_2, , dots , X_{10} $ be a discrete random variable with uniform distribution between $ 0 $ to $ 10 $. Compute $ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } $, the variables are independent.



My attempt:



So I can either get 97 by having nine 10's and a 7, eight 10's and 9 & 8 or seven 10's and three 9's ?



$$ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } = {10 choose 1 } cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 2} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 3} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} $$










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Let $ X_1, X_2, , dots , X_{10} $ be a discrete random variable with uniform distribution between $ 0 $ to $ 10 $. Compute $ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } $, the variables are independent.



My attempt:



So I can either get 97 by having nine 10's and a 7, eight 10's and 9 & 8 or seven 10's and three 9's ?



$$ P{ sum_{i=1}^{10} X_i = 97 } = {10 choose 1 } cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 2} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} + {10 choose 3} cdot frac{1}{11}^{10} $$







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  • $begingroup$
    Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Jan 3 at 9:54












  • $begingroup$
    Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 9:58


















  • $begingroup$
    Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Jan 3 at 9:54












  • $begingroup$
    Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 9:58
















$begingroup$
Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Jan 3 at 9:54






$begingroup$
Well, you could consider the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + ldots + x_{10} = 97 $$ You can do it with the stars and bars method.
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Jan 3 at 9:54














$begingroup$
Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
$endgroup$
– bm1125
Jan 3 at 9:58




$begingroup$
Yes at first I tried to use the formula of k objects into n bins but I have a limitation since I can only have up to 10 objects in each bin. Could you maybe guide me how to apply this limitation?
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Jan 3 at 9:58










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Your solution is almost correct.



The correct solution is:$$11^{-10}left(frac{10!}{9!1!}+frac{10!}{8!1!1!}+frac{10!}{7!3!}right)$$



Observe that $8$ and $9$ are distinct numbers.



So e.g. $(10,10,9,10,10,10,10,10,8,10)$ and $(10,10,8,10,10,10,10,10,9,10)$ are distinct possibilities.



That is why $binom{10}{2}=frac{10!}{8!2!}$ must be replaced by $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$.






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    So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
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    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 10:15






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    That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
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Your solution is almost correct.



The correct solution is:$$11^{-10}left(frac{10!}{9!1!}+frac{10!}{8!1!1!}+frac{10!}{7!3!}right)$$



Observe that $8$ and $9$ are distinct numbers.



So e.g. $(10,10,9,10,10,10,10,10,8,10)$ and $(10,10,8,10,10,10,10,10,9,10)$ are distinct possibilities.



That is why $binom{10}{2}=frac{10!}{8!2!}$ must be replaced by $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$.






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    So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
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    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 10:15






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    That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
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$begingroup$

Your solution is almost correct.



The correct solution is:$$11^{-10}left(frac{10!}{9!1!}+frac{10!}{8!1!1!}+frac{10!}{7!3!}right)$$



Observe that $8$ and $9$ are distinct numbers.



So e.g. $(10,10,9,10,10,10,10,10,8,10)$ and $(10,10,8,10,10,10,10,10,9,10)$ are distinct possibilities.



That is why $binom{10}{2}=frac{10!}{8!2!}$ must be replaced by $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$.






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    So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 10:15






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 3 at 10:18
















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$begingroup$

Your solution is almost correct.



The correct solution is:$$11^{-10}left(frac{10!}{9!1!}+frac{10!}{8!1!1!}+frac{10!}{7!3!}right)$$



Observe that $8$ and $9$ are distinct numbers.



So e.g. $(10,10,9,10,10,10,10,10,8,10)$ and $(10,10,8,10,10,10,10,10,9,10)$ are distinct possibilities.



That is why $binom{10}{2}=frac{10!}{8!2!}$ must be replaced by $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$.






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Your solution is almost correct.



The correct solution is:$$11^{-10}left(frac{10!}{9!1!}+frac{10!}{8!1!1!}+frac{10!}{7!3!}right)$$



Observe that $8$ and $9$ are distinct numbers.



So e.g. $(10,10,9,10,10,10,10,10,8,10)$ and $(10,10,8,10,10,10,10,10,9,10)$ are distinct possibilities.



That is why $binom{10}{2}=frac{10!}{8!2!}$ must be replaced by $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$.







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  • $begingroup$
    So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 10:15






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 3 at 10:18




















  • $begingroup$
    So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
    $endgroup$
    – bm1125
    Jan 3 at 10:15






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
    $endgroup$
    – drhab
    Jan 3 at 10:18


















$begingroup$
So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
$endgroup$
– bm1125
Jan 3 at 10:15




$begingroup$
So if I understand correctly, because I have two distinct numbers ($ 8,9 $) I had to multiply $ {10 choose 2} $ by $ 2! $ ?
$endgroup$
– bm1125
Jan 3 at 10:15




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$begingroup$
That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
$endgroup$
– drhab
Jan 3 at 10:18






$begingroup$
That is a way to put it. Personally I would rather say that there are $frac{10!}{8!1!1!}$ (multinomial coefficient) ways to split up $10$ objects in $3$ separate groups consisting of $8$, $1$ and $1$ objects respectively.
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