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I have tried to log both sides and solve for it however that just leads me back to the original equation.










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Is it possible to solve for $$3^x=3-x$$ without graphing it?



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I have tried to log both sides and solve for it however that just leads me back to the original equation.










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This question is in the section: Solving Exponential equations in my math textbook.



I have tried to log both sides and solve for it however that just leads me back to the original equation.







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  • Thank you sir. I like your feedback. Pardon me if I did not follow format, english is not my first language. I hope sir you understand.
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  • Have you tried to solve $3^x + x = 3$?
    – Robert Soupe
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  • Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
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    14 hours ago










  • Thank you sir. I like your feedback. Pardon me if I did not follow format, english is not my first language. I hope sir you understand.
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  • Have you tried to solve $3^x + x = 3$?
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
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14 hours ago












Thank you sir. I like your feedback. Pardon me if I did not follow format, english is not my first language. I hope sir you understand.
– warjwar8
13 hours ago




Thank you sir. I like your feedback. Pardon me if I did not follow format, english is not my first language. I hope sir you understand.
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Have you tried to solve $3^x + x = 3$?
– Robert Soupe
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Have you tried to solve $3^x + x = 3$?
– Robert Soupe
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Let consider



$$f(x)=3^x-(3-x)$$



and note that




  • $f(0)=-2$

  • $f(1)=1$


therefore by IVT there is a solution in $(0,1)$.



Can you show that this is the unique solution?






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  • If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
    – jayant98
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    @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
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    Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
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  • @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
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Sure. The solution can be expressed in terms of the Lambert W function. In general, graphing is not a way of "solving" an equation because it cannot give you an exact solution. Graphing the equations above will help you approximate $x approx 0.742$ but cannot give you an exact value.






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    HINT



    Let consider



    $$f(x)=3^x-(3-x)$$



    and note that




    • $f(0)=-2$

    • $f(1)=1$


    therefore by IVT there is a solution in $(0,1)$.



    Can you show that this is the unique solution?






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    • If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago






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      @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago








    • 1




      Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago










    • @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago















    up vote
    1
    down vote













    HINT



    Let consider



    $$f(x)=3^x-(3-x)$$



    and note that




    • $f(0)=-2$

    • $f(1)=1$


    therefore by IVT there is a solution in $(0,1)$.



    Can you show that this is the unique solution?






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    • If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago






    • 1




      @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago








    • 1




      Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago










    • @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago













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    HINT



    Let consider



    $$f(x)=3^x-(3-x)$$



    and note that




    • $f(0)=-2$

    • $f(1)=1$


    therefore by IVT there is a solution in $(0,1)$.



    Can you show that this is the unique solution?






    share|cite|improve this answer












    HINT



    Let consider



    $$f(x)=3^x-(3-x)$$



    and note that




    • $f(0)=-2$

    • $f(1)=1$


    therefore by IVT there is a solution in $(0,1)$.



    Can you show that this is the unique solution?







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    • If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago






    • 1




      @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago








    • 1




      Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago










    • @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago


















    • If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago






    • 1




      @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago








    • 1




      Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
      – jayant98
      13 hours ago










    • @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
      – gimusi
      13 hours ago
















    If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
    – jayant98
    13 hours ago




    If I am correct then: for $x>1$ the term $3^x +x$ is more positive than '3' everywhere in that domain. Also, for x<0 the term $-3+x$ is more negative to be neutralized by $3^x$ as $3^x$ will then become in postive fraction number.
    – jayant98
    13 hours ago




    1




    1




    @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
    – gimusi
    13 hours ago






    @jayant98 We can consider the sign of $f'(x)=3^x log 3 +1$.
    – gimusi
    13 hours ago






    1




    1




    Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
    – jayant98
    13 hours ago




    Yes Sir! Another way which is more simple and effective.
    – jayant98
    13 hours ago












    @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
    – gimusi
    13 hours ago




    @jayant98 Call me simply gimusi! Bye
    – gimusi
    13 hours ago










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    Sure. The solution can be expressed in terms of the Lambert W function. In general, graphing is not a way of "solving" an equation because it cannot give you an exact solution. Graphing the equations above will help you approximate $x approx 0.742$ but cannot give you an exact value.






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      Sure. The solution can be expressed in terms of the Lambert W function. In general, graphing is not a way of "solving" an equation because it cannot give you an exact solution. Graphing the equations above will help you approximate $x approx 0.742$ but cannot give you an exact value.






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        Sure. The solution can be expressed in terms of the Lambert W function. In general, graphing is not a way of "solving" an equation because it cannot give you an exact solution. Graphing the equations above will help you approximate $x approx 0.742$ but cannot give you an exact value.






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        Sure. The solution can be expressed in terms of the Lambert W function. In general, graphing is not a way of "solving" an equation because it cannot give you an exact solution. Graphing the equations above will help you approximate $x approx 0.742$ but cannot give you an exact value.







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