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We know that:
$Delta u=-f, inOmega$
$u=0$ ,on $partialOmega$



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find the minimum of $J(u)$ in $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$, where $J(u)=int_Omega[frac{1}{2}(u_x^2+u_y^2)-uf]dxdy$.



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why we need u belongs to $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$? specifically, why we need $u,Du$ continuos up to the boundary of $Omega$? Why can't we just use $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(Omega)$?










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    We know that:
    $Delta u=-f, inOmega$
    $u=0$ ,on $partialOmega$



    Is equivalent to this variational problem:



    find the minimum of $J(u)$ in $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$, where $J(u)=int_Omega[frac{1}{2}(u_x^2+u_y^2)-uf]dxdy$.



    My question is:



    why we need u belongs to $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$? specifically, why we need $u,Du$ continuos up to the boundary of $Omega$? Why can't we just use $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(Omega)$?










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      We know that:
      $Delta u=-f, inOmega$
      $u=0$ ,on $partialOmega$



      Is equivalent to this variational problem:



      find the minimum of $J(u)$ in $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$, where $J(u)=int_Omega[frac{1}{2}(u_x^2+u_y^2)-uf]dxdy$.



      My question is:



      why we need u belongs to $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$? specifically, why we need $u,Du$ continuos up to the boundary of $Omega$? Why can't we just use $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(Omega)$?










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      We know that:
      $Delta u=-f, inOmega$
      $u=0$ ,on $partialOmega$



      Is equivalent to this variational problem:



      find the minimum of $J(u)$ in $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$, where $J(u)=int_Omega[frac{1}{2}(u_x^2+u_y^2)-uf]dxdy$.



      My question is:



      why we need u belongs to $C^2(Omega)cap C^1(barOmega)$? specifically, why we need $u,Du$ continuos up to the boundary of $Omega$? Why can't we just use $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(Omega)$?







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          Typically the requirement is $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^0(bar{Omega})$ if you want a classical solution; you need this because you have boundary conditions and you want u to be continuous on the boundary (otherwise you could just find a solution without BC in the interior and define it as $0$ on the boundary). The (stronger) requirement $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(bar{Omega})$ is a bit weird actually, I've never heard about it, but it guarantees continuity at $partialOmega$ . However it may be useless.






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            Typically the requirement is $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^0(bar{Omega})$ if you want a classical solution; you need this because you have boundary conditions and you want u to be continuous on the boundary (otherwise you could just find a solution without BC in the interior and define it as $0$ on the boundary). The (stronger) requirement $uin C^2(Omega)cap C^1(bar{Omega})$ is a bit weird actually, I've never heard about it, but it guarantees continuity at $partialOmega$ . However it may be useless.






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