Prove Fibonacci Sequence Property: $x^2_n + x^2_{n+1}=x_{2n+1}$
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For Fibonacci Sequence, We know that the recursive difference equation is:
$$
x_{n+2} = x_n + x_{n+1} n geq 0
$$
And that the closed form solution is:
$$
x_n = frac{1}{sqrt{5}}left[ left(frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} - left(frac{1-sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} right] n geq 0
$$
But how to prove that this fibonacci property is true using this information?:
$$x^2_n + x^2_{n+1}=x_{2n+1}$$
Hint: substitute the closed form expression for the fibonacci sequence into difference equation and verify that its true.
well...I've tried this at least 3 different ways of doing exactly as hinted without much luck...the equation always blows up on me. Any ideas how to prove it?
discrete-mathematics fibonacci-numbers
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For Fibonacci Sequence, We know that the recursive difference equation is:
$$
x_{n+2} = x_n + x_{n+1} n geq 0
$$
And that the closed form solution is:
$$
x_n = frac{1}{sqrt{5}}left[ left(frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} - left(frac{1-sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} right] n geq 0
$$
But how to prove that this fibonacci property is true using this information?:
$$x^2_n + x^2_{n+1}=x_{2n+1}$$
Hint: substitute the closed form expression for the fibonacci sequence into difference equation and verify that its true.
well...I've tried this at least 3 different ways of doing exactly as hinted without much luck...the equation always blows up on me. Any ideas how to prove it?
discrete-mathematics fibonacci-numbers
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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– Henning Makholm
Jan 7 at 23:43
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 8 at 0:06
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For Fibonacci Sequence, We know that the recursive difference equation is:
$$
x_{n+2} = x_n + x_{n+1} n geq 0
$$
And that the closed form solution is:
$$
x_n = frac{1}{sqrt{5}}left[ left(frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} - left(frac{1-sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} right] n geq 0
$$
But how to prove that this fibonacci property is true using this information?:
$$x^2_n + x^2_{n+1}=x_{2n+1}$$
Hint: substitute the closed form expression for the fibonacci sequence into difference equation and verify that its true.
well...I've tried this at least 3 different ways of doing exactly as hinted without much luck...the equation always blows up on me. Any ideas how to prove it?
discrete-mathematics fibonacci-numbers
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For Fibonacci Sequence, We know that the recursive difference equation is:
$$
x_{n+2} = x_n + x_{n+1} n geq 0
$$
And that the closed form solution is:
$$
x_n = frac{1}{sqrt{5}}left[ left(frac{1+sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} - left(frac{1-sqrt{5}}{2}right)^{n} right] n geq 0
$$
But how to prove that this fibonacci property is true using this information?:
$$x^2_n + x^2_{n+1}=x_{2n+1}$$
Hint: substitute the closed form expression for the fibonacci sequence into difference equation and verify that its true.
well...I've tried this at least 3 different ways of doing exactly as hinted without much luck...the equation always blows up on me. Any ideas how to prove it?
discrete-mathematics fibonacci-numbers
discrete-mathematics fibonacci-numbers
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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– Henning Makholm
Jan 7 at 23:43
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 8 at 0:06
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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– Henning Makholm
Jan 7 at 23:43
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 8 at 0:06
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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– Henning Makholm
Jan 7 at 23:43
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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– Henning Makholm
Jan 7 at 23:43
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 8 at 0:06
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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The 'standard proof' uses strong induction, and I'll leave you to figure that out.
Let $varphi$ and $psi$ represent the two roots of $x^2-x-1=0$ where $varphi > psi$ (i.e. $varphi,psi=frac{1pm sqrt{5}}{2}$). The given closed form solution is $$F_n=frac{varphi ^n-psi ^n}{sqrt{5}}$$ so we know $$F_n^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n} }{5}$$ and $$F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2}}{5}$$ so $$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n}+varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2} }{5}$$But we know that $varphi psi =-1$, so either $(varphipsi)^n=1$ and $(varphipsi)^{n+1}=-1$ or $(varphipsi)^n=-1$ and $varphipsi)^{n+1}=1$. Either way, the two terms cancel each other, so$$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}$$It can be easily seen that $frac{1+varphi^2}{sqrt{5}}=varphi$ and $frac{1+psi^2}{sqrt{5}}=-psi$ so the above becomes begin{align*}F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2&=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}\ &=frac{varphi^{2n}cdot varphisqrt{5} + psi^{2n}cdot (-psisqrt{5})}{5} \ &=frac{sqrt{5}(varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1})}{5} \ &=frac{varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1}}{sqrt{5}} \ &= F_{2n+1}end{align*}completing the proof.
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
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For what it's worth, there's a nice approach using matrices. We can characterize the recurrence by
$$
pmatrix{x_{n+1}\x_n} = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}pmatrix{x_{n}\x_{n-1}}, quad n geq 1
$$
Let $F = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}$. As a consequence of this characterization, we end up with the formula
$$
F^n = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}
$$
We now compute
$$
(F^n)^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1}^2 + x_n^2 & x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1}\
x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1} & x_n^2 + x_{n-1}^2}
$$
On the other hand,
$$
(F^n)^2 = F^{2n} = pmatrix{x_{2n+1} & x_{2n}\ x_{2n} & x_{2n-1}}
$$
Because the two matrices are equal, their upper-left entries are equal, which is exactly the desired conclusion.
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$x_{2n+1}=x_{2n}+x_{2n-1}=x_2x_{2n}+x_1x_{2n-1}=x_2(x_{2n-1}+x_{2n-2})+x_1x_{2n-1}=(x_1+x_2)x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_3x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_4x_{2n-2}+x_3x_{2n-3}=cdots =x_xx_n+x_{n+1}x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_{n+1}^2.$
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Based on the title of the topic and the hint, you need to plug the Closed form expression into your equality
$$x_{n}^2+x_{n+1}^2-x_{2n+1}$$
and make sure it equals zero identically.
Best way is to taky any CAS and plug the figures. For Wolfram Mathematica
x[n_] := 1/Sqrt[5]*(((1 + Sqrt[5])/2)^n - ((1 - Sqrt[5])/2)^n);
x[a]^2 + x[a + 1]^2 - x[2*a + 1]
Simplify[Out]
Then you get something like this
$$frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{a+1}right)^2+frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{1}{2} left(sqrt{5}+1right)right)^a-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^aright)^2-frac{left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-2 a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{2 a+1}}{sqrt{5}}$$
You need to carefully open up all brackets, cancel out the terms to get zero.
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The 'standard proof' uses strong induction, and I'll leave you to figure that out.
Let $varphi$ and $psi$ represent the two roots of $x^2-x-1=0$ where $varphi > psi$ (i.e. $varphi,psi=frac{1pm sqrt{5}}{2}$). The given closed form solution is $$F_n=frac{varphi ^n-psi ^n}{sqrt{5}}$$ so we know $$F_n^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n} }{5}$$ and $$F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2}}{5}$$ so $$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n}+varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2} }{5}$$But we know that $varphi psi =-1$, so either $(varphipsi)^n=1$ and $(varphipsi)^{n+1}=-1$ or $(varphipsi)^n=-1$ and $varphipsi)^{n+1}=1$. Either way, the two terms cancel each other, so$$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}$$It can be easily seen that $frac{1+varphi^2}{sqrt{5}}=varphi$ and $frac{1+psi^2}{sqrt{5}}=-psi$ so the above becomes begin{align*}F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2&=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}\ &=frac{varphi^{2n}cdot varphisqrt{5} + psi^{2n}cdot (-psisqrt{5})}{5} \ &=frac{sqrt{5}(varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1})}{5} \ &=frac{varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1}}{sqrt{5}} \ &= F_{2n+1}end{align*}completing the proof.
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
Jan 8 at 0:10
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The 'standard proof' uses strong induction, and I'll leave you to figure that out.
Let $varphi$ and $psi$ represent the two roots of $x^2-x-1=0$ where $varphi > psi$ (i.e. $varphi,psi=frac{1pm sqrt{5}}{2}$). The given closed form solution is $$F_n=frac{varphi ^n-psi ^n}{sqrt{5}}$$ so we know $$F_n^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n} }{5}$$ and $$F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2}}{5}$$ so $$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n}+varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2} }{5}$$But we know that $varphi psi =-1$, so either $(varphipsi)^n=1$ and $(varphipsi)^{n+1}=-1$ or $(varphipsi)^n=-1$ and $varphipsi)^{n+1}=1$. Either way, the two terms cancel each other, so$$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}$$It can be easily seen that $frac{1+varphi^2}{sqrt{5}}=varphi$ and $frac{1+psi^2}{sqrt{5}}=-psi$ so the above becomes begin{align*}F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2&=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}\ &=frac{varphi^{2n}cdot varphisqrt{5} + psi^{2n}cdot (-psisqrt{5})}{5} \ &=frac{sqrt{5}(varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1})}{5} \ &=frac{varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1}}{sqrt{5}} \ &= F_{2n+1}end{align*}completing the proof.
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
Jan 8 at 0:10
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The 'standard proof' uses strong induction, and I'll leave you to figure that out.
Let $varphi$ and $psi$ represent the two roots of $x^2-x-1=0$ where $varphi > psi$ (i.e. $varphi,psi=frac{1pm sqrt{5}}{2}$). The given closed form solution is $$F_n=frac{varphi ^n-psi ^n}{sqrt{5}}$$ so we know $$F_n^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n} }{5}$$ and $$F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2}}{5}$$ so $$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n}+varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2} }{5}$$But we know that $varphi psi =-1$, so either $(varphipsi)^n=1$ and $(varphipsi)^{n+1}=-1$ or $(varphipsi)^n=-1$ and $varphipsi)^{n+1}=1$. Either way, the two terms cancel each other, so$$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}$$It can be easily seen that $frac{1+varphi^2}{sqrt{5}}=varphi$ and $frac{1+psi^2}{sqrt{5}}=-psi$ so the above becomes begin{align*}F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2&=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}\ &=frac{varphi^{2n}cdot varphisqrt{5} + psi^{2n}cdot (-psisqrt{5})}{5} \ &=frac{sqrt{5}(varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1})}{5} \ &=frac{varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1}}{sqrt{5}} \ &= F_{2n+1}end{align*}completing the proof.
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The 'standard proof' uses strong induction, and I'll leave you to figure that out.
Let $varphi$ and $psi$ represent the two roots of $x^2-x-1=0$ where $varphi > psi$ (i.e. $varphi,psi=frac{1pm sqrt{5}}{2}$). The given closed form solution is $$F_n=frac{varphi ^n-psi ^n}{sqrt{5}}$$ so we know $$F_n^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n} }{5}$$ and $$F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2}}{5}$$ so $$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi ^{2n}-2(varphi psi)^n+psi ^{2n}+varphi ^{2n+2}-2(varphi psi )^{n+1}+psi ^{2n+2} }{5}$$But we know that $varphi psi =-1$, so either $(varphipsi)^n=1$ and $(varphipsi)^{n+1}=-1$ or $(varphipsi)^n=-1$ and $varphipsi)^{n+1}=1$. Either way, the two terms cancel each other, so$$F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}$$It can be easily seen that $frac{1+varphi^2}{sqrt{5}}=varphi$ and $frac{1+psi^2}{sqrt{5}}=-psi$ so the above becomes begin{align*}F_n^2+F_{n+1}^2&=frac{varphi^{2n}(1+varphi ^2)+psi ^{2n}(1+psi^2)}{5}\ &=frac{varphi^{2n}cdot varphisqrt{5} + psi^{2n}cdot (-psisqrt{5})}{5} \ &=frac{sqrt{5}(varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1})}{5} \ &=frac{varphi^{2n+1}-psi^{2n+1}}{sqrt{5}} \ &= F_{2n+1}end{align*}completing the proof.
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
Jan 8 at 0:10
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
Jan 8 at 0:10
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This seems to be the approach being hinted at. From OP's perspective, I think the insight that was missing was that we should expand things in terms of $varphi$ and $psi$, rather than in the way one typically "expands and simplifies".
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– Omnomnomnom
Jan 8 at 0:10
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For what it's worth, there's a nice approach using matrices. We can characterize the recurrence by
$$
pmatrix{x_{n+1}\x_n} = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}pmatrix{x_{n}\x_{n-1}}, quad n geq 1
$$
Let $F = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}$. As a consequence of this characterization, we end up with the formula
$$
F^n = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}
$$
We now compute
$$
(F^n)^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1}^2 + x_n^2 & x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1}\
x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1} & x_n^2 + x_{n-1}^2}
$$
On the other hand,
$$
(F^n)^2 = F^{2n} = pmatrix{x_{2n+1} & x_{2n}\ x_{2n} & x_{2n-1}}
$$
Because the two matrices are equal, their upper-left entries are equal, which is exactly the desired conclusion.
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For what it's worth, there's a nice approach using matrices. We can characterize the recurrence by
$$
pmatrix{x_{n+1}\x_n} = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}pmatrix{x_{n}\x_{n-1}}, quad n geq 1
$$
Let $F = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}$. As a consequence of this characterization, we end up with the formula
$$
F^n = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}
$$
We now compute
$$
(F^n)^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1}^2 + x_n^2 & x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1}\
x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1} & x_n^2 + x_{n-1}^2}
$$
On the other hand,
$$
(F^n)^2 = F^{2n} = pmatrix{x_{2n+1} & x_{2n}\ x_{2n} & x_{2n-1}}
$$
Because the two matrices are equal, their upper-left entries are equal, which is exactly the desired conclusion.
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For what it's worth, there's a nice approach using matrices. We can characterize the recurrence by
$$
pmatrix{x_{n+1}\x_n} = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}pmatrix{x_{n}\x_{n-1}}, quad n geq 1
$$
Let $F = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}$. As a consequence of this characterization, we end up with the formula
$$
F^n = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}
$$
We now compute
$$
(F^n)^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1}^2 + x_n^2 & x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1}\
x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1} & x_n^2 + x_{n-1}^2}
$$
On the other hand,
$$
(F^n)^2 = F^{2n} = pmatrix{x_{2n+1} & x_{2n}\ x_{2n} & x_{2n-1}}
$$
Because the two matrices are equal, their upper-left entries are equal, which is exactly the desired conclusion.
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For what it's worth, there's a nice approach using matrices. We can characterize the recurrence by
$$
pmatrix{x_{n+1}\x_n} = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}pmatrix{x_{n}\x_{n-1}}, quad n geq 1
$$
Let $F = pmatrix{1&1\1&0}$. As a consequence of this characterization, we end up with the formula
$$
F^n = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}
$$
We now compute
$$
(F^n)^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1} & x_n\ x_n & x_{n-1}}^2 = pmatrix{x_{n+1}^2 + x_n^2 & x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1}\
x_{n+1}x_n + x_n x_{n-1} & x_n^2 + x_{n-1}^2}
$$
On the other hand,
$$
(F^n)^2 = F^{2n} = pmatrix{x_{2n+1} & x_{2n}\ x_{2n} & x_{2n-1}}
$$
Because the two matrices are equal, their upper-left entries are equal, which is exactly the desired conclusion.
answered Jan 8 at 0:18
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$x_{2n+1}=x_{2n}+x_{2n-1}=x_2x_{2n}+x_1x_{2n-1}=x_2(x_{2n-1}+x_{2n-2})+x_1x_{2n-1}=(x_1+x_2)x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_3x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_4x_{2n-2}+x_3x_{2n-3}=cdots =x_xx_n+x_{n+1}x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_{n+1}^2.$
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$x_{2n+1}=x_{2n}+x_{2n-1}=x_2x_{2n}+x_1x_{2n-1}=x_2(x_{2n-1}+x_{2n-2})+x_1x_{2n-1}=(x_1+x_2)x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_3x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_4x_{2n-2}+x_3x_{2n-3}=cdots =x_xx_n+x_{n+1}x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_{n+1}^2.$
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$x_{2n+1}=x_{2n}+x_{2n-1}=x_2x_{2n}+x_1x_{2n-1}=x_2(x_{2n-1}+x_{2n-2})+x_1x_{2n-1}=(x_1+x_2)x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_3x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_4x_{2n-2}+x_3x_{2n-3}=cdots =x_xx_n+x_{n+1}x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_{n+1}^2.$
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$x_{2n+1}=x_{2n}+x_{2n-1}=x_2x_{2n}+x_1x_{2n-1}=x_2(x_{2n-1}+x_{2n-2})+x_1x_{2n-1}=(x_1+x_2)x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_3x_{2n-1}+x_2x_{2n-2}=x_4x_{2n-2}+x_3x_{2n-3}=cdots =x_xx_n+x_{n+1}x_{n+1}=x_n^2+x_{n+1}^2.$
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answered Jan 7 at 23:57
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Based on the title of the topic and the hint, you need to plug the Closed form expression into your equality
$$x_{n}^2+x_{n+1}^2-x_{2n+1}$$
and make sure it equals zero identically.
Best way is to taky any CAS and plug the figures. For Wolfram Mathematica
x[n_] := 1/Sqrt[5]*(((1 + Sqrt[5])/2)^n - ((1 - Sqrt[5])/2)^n);
x[a]^2 + x[a + 1]^2 - x[2*a + 1]
Simplify[Out]
Then you get something like this
$$frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{a+1}right)^2+frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{1}{2} left(sqrt{5}+1right)right)^a-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^aright)^2-frac{left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-2 a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{2 a+1}}{sqrt{5}}$$
You need to carefully open up all brackets, cancel out the terms to get zero.
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Based on the title of the topic and the hint, you need to plug the Closed form expression into your equality
$$x_{n}^2+x_{n+1}^2-x_{2n+1}$$
and make sure it equals zero identically.
Best way is to taky any CAS and plug the figures. For Wolfram Mathematica
x[n_] := 1/Sqrt[5]*(((1 + Sqrt[5])/2)^n - ((1 - Sqrt[5])/2)^n);
x[a]^2 + x[a + 1]^2 - x[2*a + 1]
Simplify[Out]
Then you get something like this
$$frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{a+1}right)^2+frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{1}{2} left(sqrt{5}+1right)right)^a-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^aright)^2-frac{left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-2 a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{2 a+1}}{sqrt{5}}$$
You need to carefully open up all brackets, cancel out the terms to get zero.
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– Omnomnomnom
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$begingroup$
Based on the title of the topic and the hint, you need to plug the Closed form expression into your equality
$$x_{n}^2+x_{n+1}^2-x_{2n+1}$$
and make sure it equals zero identically.
Best way is to taky any CAS and plug the figures. For Wolfram Mathematica
x[n_] := 1/Sqrt[5]*(((1 + Sqrt[5])/2)^n - ((1 - Sqrt[5])/2)^n);
x[a]^2 + x[a + 1]^2 - x[2*a + 1]
Simplify[Out]
Then you get something like this
$$frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{a+1}right)^2+frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{1}{2} left(sqrt{5}+1right)right)^a-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^aright)^2-frac{left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-2 a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{2 a+1}}{sqrt{5}}$$
You need to carefully open up all brackets, cancel out the terms to get zero.
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Based on the title of the topic and the hint, you need to plug the Closed form expression into your equality
$$x_{n}^2+x_{n+1}^2-x_{2n+1}$$
and make sure it equals zero identically.
Best way is to taky any CAS and plug the figures. For Wolfram Mathematica
x[n_] := 1/Sqrt[5]*(((1 + Sqrt[5])/2)^n - ((1 - Sqrt[5])/2)^n);
x[a]^2 + x[a + 1]^2 - x[2*a + 1]
Simplify[Out]
Then you get something like this
$$frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{a+1}right)^2+frac{1}{5} left(left(frac{1}{2} left(sqrt{5}+1right)right)^a-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^aright)^2-frac{left(frac{2}{sqrt{5}+1}right)^{-2 a-1}-left(frac{1}{2} left(1-sqrt{5}right)right)^{2 a+1}}{sqrt{5}}$$
You need to carefully open up all brackets, cancel out the terms to get zero.
answered Jan 8 at 0:17


Mikhail DMikhail D
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Can you show one or more of those 3 different ways? It is hard to guess at what you're doing wrong when we don't know what you're doing.
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Hint: with $x_0=0,x_1=1$, prove by induction over $m$ that $x_p=x_{m+1}x_{p-m}+x_mx_{p-m-1}$.
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