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In terms of $n$, find the formula for the sequence $a_n$: 7, 10, 16, 25; given that the difference between each adjacent element in the sequence creates an arithmetic sequence of its own.




I got the incorrect solution and I cannot trace my mistake:



We create a new sequence $b_n$ based on the given information:



$b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$
$b_2 = 16 - 10 = 6$
$b_3 = 25-16 = 9$
$d_{b_n} = 3$



We know that:
$$a_n - a_{n-1} = b_{n-1}$$
If we were to add all possible elements:
$$A_n - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$$
We also know that $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, so therefore $a_n = B_{n-1}$:
$$a_n = frac{[2b_1 + d(n-2)](n-1)}{2} = boxed{frac{3n(n-1)}{2}}$$
However, this is incorrect as it gives values inconsistent with the definition of the sequence.
The correct answer is $frac{3n^2-3n+14}{2}$.



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    I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
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    @lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
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    No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
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In terms of $n$, find the formula for the sequence $a_n$: 7, 10, 16, 25; given that the difference between each adjacent element in the sequence creates an arithmetic sequence of its own.




I got the incorrect solution and I cannot trace my mistake:



We create a new sequence $b_n$ based on the given information:



$b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$
$b_2 = 16 - 10 = 6$
$b_3 = 25-16 = 9$
$d_{b_n} = 3$



We know that:
$$a_n - a_{n-1} = b_{n-1}$$
If we were to add all possible elements:
$$A_n - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$$
We also know that $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, so therefore $a_n = B_{n-1}$:
$$a_n = frac{[2b_1 + d(n-2)](n-1)}{2} = boxed{frac{3n(n-1)}{2}}$$
However, this is incorrect as it gives values inconsistent with the definition of the sequence.
The correct answer is $frac{3n^2-3n+14}{2}$.



Where have I gone wrong?










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    I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
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    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:05












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    @lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
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    – daedsidog
    Jan 11 at 17:07












  • $begingroup$
    No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
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    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:17














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In terms of $n$, find the formula for the sequence $a_n$: 7, 10, 16, 25; given that the difference between each adjacent element in the sequence creates an arithmetic sequence of its own.




I got the incorrect solution and I cannot trace my mistake:



We create a new sequence $b_n$ based on the given information:



$b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$
$b_2 = 16 - 10 = 6$
$b_3 = 25-16 = 9$
$d_{b_n} = 3$



We know that:
$$a_n - a_{n-1} = b_{n-1}$$
If we were to add all possible elements:
$$A_n - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$$
We also know that $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, so therefore $a_n = B_{n-1}$:
$$a_n = frac{[2b_1 + d(n-2)](n-1)}{2} = boxed{frac{3n(n-1)}{2}}$$
However, this is incorrect as it gives values inconsistent with the definition of the sequence.
The correct answer is $frac{3n^2-3n+14}{2}$.



Where have I gone wrong?










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In terms of $n$, find the formula for the sequence $a_n$: 7, 10, 16, 25; given that the difference between each adjacent element in the sequence creates an arithmetic sequence of its own.




I got the incorrect solution and I cannot trace my mistake:



We create a new sequence $b_n$ based on the given information:



$b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$
$b_2 = 16 - 10 = 6$
$b_3 = 25-16 = 9$
$d_{b_n} = 3$



We know that:
$$a_n - a_{n-1} = b_{n-1}$$
If we were to add all possible elements:
$$A_n - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$$
We also know that $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, so therefore $a_n = B_{n-1}$:
$$a_n = frac{[2b_1 + d(n-2)](n-1)}{2} = boxed{frac{3n(n-1)}{2}}$$
However, this is incorrect as it gives values inconsistent with the definition of the sequence.
The correct answer is $frac{3n^2-3n+14}{2}$.



Where have I gone wrong?







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    I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
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    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:05












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    @lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
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    – daedsidog
    Jan 11 at 17:07












  • $begingroup$
    No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:17


















  • $begingroup$
    I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:05












  • $begingroup$
    @lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
    $endgroup$
    – daedsidog
    Jan 11 at 17:07












  • $begingroup$
    No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 11 at 17:17
















$begingroup$
I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 11 at 17:05






$begingroup$
I don't see where you used the initial condition $a_1=7$. Just knowing the differences between terms in a sequence does not determine the sequence uniquely. You still need some more information, like a starting value.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 11 at 17:05














$begingroup$
@lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
$endgroup$
– daedsidog
Jan 11 at 17:07






$begingroup$
@lulu Isn't it implied from $b_1 = 10 - 7 = 3$?
$endgroup$
– daedsidog
Jan 11 at 17:07














$begingroup$
No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 11 at 17:17




$begingroup$
No. Just knowing that $a_2-a_1=3$ doesn't tell you what $a_1,a_2$ are.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 11 at 17:17










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You have an error when adding the sequences up to $n$.



You have the following:



$$
a_2 - a_1 = b_1 \
a_3 - a_2 = b_2 \
dots \
a_n - a_{n - 1} = b_{n - 1}
$$



So, when you add these equalities, you get:



$$sum_2^n a_i + sum_1^{n-1}a_i = sum_1^{n-1}b_i$$



The second term here is indeed $A_{n-1}$, and the right hand side is $B_{n=1}$, but the first is $A_n - a_1$. Therefore you have $A_n - a_1 - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$. Now, using $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, we have
$$a_n = B_{n-1} + a_1 = frac{3n(n-1)}{2} + 7$$






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    You have an error when adding the sequences up to $n$.



    You have the following:



    $$
    a_2 - a_1 = b_1 \
    a_3 - a_2 = b_2 \
    dots \
    a_n - a_{n - 1} = b_{n - 1}
    $$



    So, when you add these equalities, you get:



    $$sum_2^n a_i + sum_1^{n-1}a_i = sum_1^{n-1}b_i$$



    The second term here is indeed $A_{n-1}$, and the right hand side is $B_{n=1}$, but the first is $A_n - a_1$. Therefore you have $A_n - a_1 - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$. Now, using $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, we have
    $$a_n = B_{n-1} + a_1 = frac{3n(n-1)}{2} + 7$$






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      You have an error when adding the sequences up to $n$.



      You have the following:



      $$
      a_2 - a_1 = b_1 \
      a_3 - a_2 = b_2 \
      dots \
      a_n - a_{n - 1} = b_{n - 1}
      $$



      So, when you add these equalities, you get:



      $$sum_2^n a_i + sum_1^{n-1}a_i = sum_1^{n-1}b_i$$



      The second term here is indeed $A_{n-1}$, and the right hand side is $B_{n=1}$, but the first is $A_n - a_1$. Therefore you have $A_n - a_1 - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$. Now, using $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, we have
      $$a_n = B_{n-1} + a_1 = frac{3n(n-1)}{2} + 7$$






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        You have an error when adding the sequences up to $n$.



        You have the following:



        $$
        a_2 - a_1 = b_1 \
        a_3 - a_2 = b_2 \
        dots \
        a_n - a_{n - 1} = b_{n - 1}
        $$



        So, when you add these equalities, you get:



        $$sum_2^n a_i + sum_1^{n-1}a_i = sum_1^{n-1}b_i$$



        The second term here is indeed $A_{n-1}$, and the right hand side is $B_{n=1}$, but the first is $A_n - a_1$. Therefore you have $A_n - a_1 - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$. Now, using $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, we have
        $$a_n = B_{n-1} + a_1 = frac{3n(n-1)}{2} + 7$$






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        You have an error when adding the sequences up to $n$.



        You have the following:



        $$
        a_2 - a_1 = b_1 \
        a_3 - a_2 = b_2 \
        dots \
        a_n - a_{n - 1} = b_{n - 1}
        $$



        So, when you add these equalities, you get:



        $$sum_2^n a_i + sum_1^{n-1}a_i = sum_1^{n-1}b_i$$



        The second term here is indeed $A_{n-1}$, and the right hand side is $B_{n=1}$, but the first is $A_n - a_1$. Therefore you have $A_n - a_1 - A_{n-1} = B_{n-1}$. Now, using $A_n - A_{n-1} = a_n$, we have
        $$a_n = B_{n-1} + a_1 = frac{3n(n-1)}{2} + 7$$







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