AWS SQS Long Polling doesn't reduce empty receives











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Currently, I have an AWS SQS as a trigger to my AWS Lambda function.



I would like to implement long polling to reduce costs since I've used up 70% of my monthly free tier, mostly from empty receives.



I tried setting up long polling by changing the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds to 20 seconds:



SQS Details showing ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds set to 20s



However, this didn't seem to reduce the number of empty receives, where the settings were changed on 11/19, between 2:00 - 3:00.
Empty Receives graph shows the same trend even after setting long polling



According to the AWS Documentation, WaitTimeSeconds has priority over the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds




Short polling occurs when the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of a
ReceiveMessage request is set to 0 in one of two ways:




  • The ReceiveMessage call sets WaitTimeSeconds to 0.

  • The ReceiveMessage call doesn’t set WaitTimeSeconds, but the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds is set to 0.


Note



For the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of the ReceiveMessage action, a
value set between 1 and 20 has priority over any value set for the
queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds.




Since AWS Lambda is receiving the SQS requests, I don't think WaitTimeSeconds can be configured.



Why doesn't my long polling configuration work in this situation? Am I misunderstanding something, or did I configure it wrong?



Thank you!










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  • Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
    – John Rotenstein
    20 hours ago










  • We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
    – nitan
    18 hours ago















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Currently, I have an AWS SQS as a trigger to my AWS Lambda function.



I would like to implement long polling to reduce costs since I've used up 70% of my monthly free tier, mostly from empty receives.



I tried setting up long polling by changing the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds to 20 seconds:



SQS Details showing ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds set to 20s



However, this didn't seem to reduce the number of empty receives, where the settings were changed on 11/19, between 2:00 - 3:00.
Empty Receives graph shows the same trend even after setting long polling



According to the AWS Documentation, WaitTimeSeconds has priority over the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds




Short polling occurs when the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of a
ReceiveMessage request is set to 0 in one of two ways:




  • The ReceiveMessage call sets WaitTimeSeconds to 0.

  • The ReceiveMessage call doesn’t set WaitTimeSeconds, but the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds is set to 0.


Note



For the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of the ReceiveMessage action, a
value set between 1 and 20 has priority over any value set for the
queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds.




Since AWS Lambda is receiving the SQS requests, I don't think WaitTimeSeconds can be configured.



Why doesn't my long polling configuration work in this situation? Am I misunderstanding something, or did I configure it wrong?



Thank you!










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  • Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
    – John Rotenstein
    20 hours ago










  • We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
    – nitan
    18 hours ago













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Currently, I have an AWS SQS as a trigger to my AWS Lambda function.



I would like to implement long polling to reduce costs since I've used up 70% of my monthly free tier, mostly from empty receives.



I tried setting up long polling by changing the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds to 20 seconds:



SQS Details showing ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds set to 20s



However, this didn't seem to reduce the number of empty receives, where the settings were changed on 11/19, between 2:00 - 3:00.
Empty Receives graph shows the same trend even after setting long polling



According to the AWS Documentation, WaitTimeSeconds has priority over the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds




Short polling occurs when the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of a
ReceiveMessage request is set to 0 in one of two ways:




  • The ReceiveMessage call sets WaitTimeSeconds to 0.

  • The ReceiveMessage call doesn’t set WaitTimeSeconds, but the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds is set to 0.


Note



For the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of the ReceiveMessage action, a
value set between 1 and 20 has priority over any value set for the
queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds.




Since AWS Lambda is receiving the SQS requests, I don't think WaitTimeSeconds can be configured.



Why doesn't my long polling configuration work in this situation? Am I misunderstanding something, or did I configure it wrong?



Thank you!










share|improve this question













Currently, I have an AWS SQS as a trigger to my AWS Lambda function.



I would like to implement long polling to reduce costs since I've used up 70% of my monthly free tier, mostly from empty receives.



I tried setting up long polling by changing the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds to 20 seconds:



SQS Details showing ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds set to 20s



However, this didn't seem to reduce the number of empty receives, where the settings were changed on 11/19, between 2:00 - 3:00.
Empty Receives graph shows the same trend even after setting long polling



According to the AWS Documentation, WaitTimeSeconds has priority over the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds




Short polling occurs when the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of a
ReceiveMessage request is set to 0 in one of two ways:




  • The ReceiveMessage call sets WaitTimeSeconds to 0.

  • The ReceiveMessage call doesn’t set WaitTimeSeconds, but the queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds is set to 0.


Note



For the WaitTimeSeconds parameter of the ReceiveMessage action, a
value set between 1 and 20 has priority over any value set for the
queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds.




Since AWS Lambda is receiving the SQS requests, I don't think WaitTimeSeconds can be configured.



Why doesn't my long polling configuration work in this situation? Am I misunderstanding something, or did I configure it wrong?



Thank you!







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  • Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
    – John Rotenstein
    20 hours ago










  • We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
    – nitan
    18 hours ago


















  • Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
    – John Rotenstein
    20 hours ago










  • We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
    – nitan
    18 hours ago
















Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
– John Rotenstein
20 hours ago




Why are you using Amazon SQS to trigger a Lambda function? You could instead send a message to Amazon SNS, which can also trigger a Lambda function but does not require polling. Is there a particular need for your application to use SQS?
– John Rotenstein
20 hours ago












We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
– nitan
18 hours ago




We prefer to use SQS for the letter retention period (max 14 days) and the easy setup for dead letter queues
– nitan
18 hours ago












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Actually Long Polling is working in your situation.



5 lambdas * polling / 20 seconds * 3600 seconds in an hour = 900 receives/hour



What I think you've missed is the "5 minimum concurrent lambdas". This is implied in the Lambda Scaling Behaviour documentation, but is more helpfully and explicitly laid out in the "Additional Information" section of the announcement/deep-dive blog.




When an SQS event source mapping is initially created and enabled, or
when messages first appear after a period with no traffic, then the
Lambda service will begin polling the SQS queue using five parallel
long-polling connections. The Lambda service monitors the number of
inflight messages, and when it detects that this number is trending
up, it will increase the polling frequency by 20 ReceiveMessage
requests per minute and the function concurrency by 60 calls per
minute.







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  • Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
    – nitan
    6 hours ago










  • Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
    – thomasmichaelwallace
    1 hour ago











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Actually Long Polling is working in your situation.



5 lambdas * polling / 20 seconds * 3600 seconds in an hour = 900 receives/hour



What I think you've missed is the "5 minimum concurrent lambdas". This is implied in the Lambda Scaling Behaviour documentation, but is more helpfully and explicitly laid out in the "Additional Information" section of the announcement/deep-dive blog.




When an SQS event source mapping is initially created and enabled, or
when messages first appear after a period with no traffic, then the
Lambda service will begin polling the SQS queue using five parallel
long-polling connections. The Lambda service monitors the number of
inflight messages, and when it detects that this number is trending
up, it will increase the polling frequency by 20 ReceiveMessage
requests per minute and the function concurrency by 60 calls per
minute.







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  • Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
    – nitan
    6 hours ago










  • Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
    – thomasmichaelwallace
    1 hour ago















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Actually Long Polling is working in your situation.



5 lambdas * polling / 20 seconds * 3600 seconds in an hour = 900 receives/hour



What I think you've missed is the "5 minimum concurrent lambdas". This is implied in the Lambda Scaling Behaviour documentation, but is more helpfully and explicitly laid out in the "Additional Information" section of the announcement/deep-dive blog.




When an SQS event source mapping is initially created and enabled, or
when messages first appear after a period with no traffic, then the
Lambda service will begin polling the SQS queue using five parallel
long-polling connections. The Lambda service monitors the number of
inflight messages, and when it detects that this number is trending
up, it will increase the polling frequency by 20 ReceiveMessage
requests per minute and the function concurrency by 60 calls per
minute.







share|improve this answer





















  • Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
    – nitan
    6 hours ago










  • Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
    – thomasmichaelwallace
    1 hour ago













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Actually Long Polling is working in your situation.



5 lambdas * polling / 20 seconds * 3600 seconds in an hour = 900 receives/hour



What I think you've missed is the "5 minimum concurrent lambdas". This is implied in the Lambda Scaling Behaviour documentation, but is more helpfully and explicitly laid out in the "Additional Information" section of the announcement/deep-dive blog.




When an SQS event source mapping is initially created and enabled, or
when messages first appear after a period with no traffic, then the
Lambda service will begin polling the SQS queue using five parallel
long-polling connections. The Lambda service monitors the number of
inflight messages, and when it detects that this number is trending
up, it will increase the polling frequency by 20 ReceiveMessage
requests per minute and the function concurrency by 60 calls per
minute.







share|improve this answer












Actually Long Polling is working in your situation.



5 lambdas * polling / 20 seconds * 3600 seconds in an hour = 900 receives/hour



What I think you've missed is the "5 minimum concurrent lambdas". This is implied in the Lambda Scaling Behaviour documentation, but is more helpfully and explicitly laid out in the "Additional Information" section of the announcement/deep-dive blog.




When an SQS event source mapping is initially created and enabled, or
when messages first appear after a period with no traffic, then the
Lambda service will begin polling the SQS queue using five parallel
long-polling connections. The Lambda service monitors the number of
inflight messages, and when it detects that this number is trending
up, it will increase the polling frequency by 20 ReceiveMessage
requests per minute and the function concurrency by 60 calls per
minute.








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  • Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
    – nitan
    6 hours ago










  • Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
    – thomasmichaelwallace
    1 hour ago


















  • Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
    – nitan
    6 hours ago










  • Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
    – thomasmichaelwallace
    1 hour ago
















Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
– nitan
6 hours ago




Thanks @thomasmichaelwallace! This explains it. So to clarify, Lambda long-polls by default, which explains why changing my queue attribute ReceiveMessageWaitTimeSeconds didn't change the number of empty receives?
– nitan
6 hours ago












Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
– thomasmichaelwallace
1 hour ago




Yes- Lambda long polls (every 20) until there are messages, and then it moves to increasingly shorter polling until the queue is empty. (It doesn't respect the queue's RecieveMessageWaitTimeSecond).
– thomasmichaelwallace
1 hour ago


















 

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