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Find a matrix $B$ such that $B^{5}$ is equal to $begin{bmatrix}
20 & 12\
19 & 13\
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I have tried this using the $2times2$ matrix $begin{bmatrix}
a & b\
c & d\
end{bmatrix}$
and multiplying it by itself $5$ times but that has left me with polynomials of very high degrees. Any hints on how to start this?










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  • How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
    – Sam Streeter
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  • so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday






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    No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
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  • It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
    – Robbie Meaney
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Find a matrix $B$ such that $B^{5}$ is equal to $begin{bmatrix}
20 & 12\
19 & 13\
end{bmatrix}$
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I have tried this using the $2times2$ matrix $begin{bmatrix}
a & b\
c & d\
end{bmatrix}$
and multiplying it by itself $5$ times but that has left me with polynomials of very high degrees. Any hints on how to start this?










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  • How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
    – Sam Streeter
    yesterday












  • so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday






  • 2




    No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
    – user3482749
    yesterday










  • It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday













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Find a matrix $B$ such that $B^{5}$ is equal to $begin{bmatrix}
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I have tried this using the $2times2$ matrix $begin{bmatrix}
a & b\
c & d\
end{bmatrix}$
and multiplying it by itself $5$ times but that has left me with polynomials of very high degrees. Any hints on how to start this?










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Find a matrix $B$ such that $B^{5}$ is equal to $begin{bmatrix}
20 & 12\
19 & 13\
end{bmatrix}$
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I have tried this using the $2times2$ matrix $begin{bmatrix}
a & b\
c & d\
end{bmatrix}$
and multiplying it by itself $5$ times but that has left me with polynomials of very high degrees. Any hints on how to start this?







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  • How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
    – Sam Streeter
    yesterday












  • so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday






  • 2




    No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
    – user3482749
    yesterday










  • It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday


















  • How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
    – Sam Streeter
    yesterday












  • so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday






  • 2




    No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
    – user3482749
    yesterday










  • It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
    – Robbie Meaney
    yesterday
















How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
– Sam Streeter
yesterday






How about computing the determinant of $B$ given the determinant of $B^5$? That gives you a constraint to work with. Not sure if that really helps though. Can't help but think that this involves diagonalisation...
– Sam Streeter
yesterday














so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
– Robbie Meaney
yesterday




so det(B)=ad-cb is equal to $det(B^{5})$?
– Robbie Meaney
yesterday




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No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
– user3482749
yesterday




No. The determinant is a homomorphism, so $det(B^5) = det(B)^5$.
– user3482749
yesterday












It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
– Robbie Meaney
yesterday




It gives me that $ad-cb$=2 which is a nice constraint but still doesn't help me solve I don't think.
– Robbie Meaney
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The eigenvalues of your matrix are $32$ and $1$. The vector $(1,1)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $32$, whereas the vector $(-12,19)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $1$. So, let$$P=begin{bmatrix}1&-12\1&19end{bmatrix}.$$Then$$P^{-1}.B^5.P=begin{bmatrix}32&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.$$So, take$$B=P.begin{bmatrix}2&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.P^{-1}=begin{bmatrix}frac{50}{31}&frac{12}{31}\frac{19}{31}&frac{43}{31}end{bmatrix}.$$






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    The characteristic polynomial is
    $$
    (x-20)(x-13)-12times 19 = x^2 - 33x +260 - 240 + 12= x^2 -33x + 32 = (x-32)(x-1),
    $$

    so $B^5$ is diagonalizable. Solve $(B^5 - 32I) x = 0$ gives a solution $(1,1)^{mathrm T}$, and solve $(B^5 - I)x = 0$ gives a solution $(12, -19)^{mathrm T}$, so there exists a matrix
    $$
    P = begin{bmatrix}
    1 & 12 \ 1 & -19
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    such that
    $$
    P^{-1}B^5 P = mathrm {diag}(32,1).
    $$

    So we could take $B = Pmathrm {diag} (2, 1)P^{-1}$.






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      The eigenvalues of your matrix are $32$ and $1$. The vector $(1,1)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $32$, whereas the vector $(-12,19)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $1$. So, let$$P=begin{bmatrix}1&-12\1&19end{bmatrix}.$$Then$$P^{-1}.B^5.P=begin{bmatrix}32&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.$$So, take$$B=P.begin{bmatrix}2&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.P^{-1}=begin{bmatrix}frac{50}{31}&frac{12}{31}\frac{19}{31}&frac{43}{31}end{bmatrix}.$$






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        The eigenvalues of your matrix are $32$ and $1$. The vector $(1,1)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $32$, whereas the vector $(-12,19)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $1$. So, let$$P=begin{bmatrix}1&-12\1&19end{bmatrix}.$$Then$$P^{-1}.B^5.P=begin{bmatrix}32&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.$$So, take$$B=P.begin{bmatrix}2&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.P^{-1}=begin{bmatrix}frac{50}{31}&frac{12}{31}\frac{19}{31}&frac{43}{31}end{bmatrix}.$$






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          The eigenvalues of your matrix are $32$ and $1$. The vector $(1,1)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $32$, whereas the vector $(-12,19)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $1$. So, let$$P=begin{bmatrix}1&-12\1&19end{bmatrix}.$$Then$$P^{-1}.B^5.P=begin{bmatrix}32&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.$$So, take$$B=P.begin{bmatrix}2&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.P^{-1}=begin{bmatrix}frac{50}{31}&frac{12}{31}\frac{19}{31}&frac{43}{31}end{bmatrix}.$$






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          The eigenvalues of your matrix are $32$ and $1$. The vector $(1,1)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $32$, whereas the vector $(-12,19)$ is an eigenvector with eigenvalue $1$. So, let$$P=begin{bmatrix}1&-12\1&19end{bmatrix}.$$Then$$P^{-1}.B^5.P=begin{bmatrix}32&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.$$So, take$$B=P.begin{bmatrix}2&0\0&1end{bmatrix}.P^{-1}=begin{bmatrix}frac{50}{31}&frac{12}{31}\frac{19}{31}&frac{43}{31}end{bmatrix}.$$







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              The characteristic polynomial is
              $$
              (x-20)(x-13)-12times 19 = x^2 - 33x +260 - 240 + 12= x^2 -33x + 32 = (x-32)(x-1),
              $$

              so $B^5$ is diagonalizable. Solve $(B^5 - 32I) x = 0$ gives a solution $(1,1)^{mathrm T}$, and solve $(B^5 - I)x = 0$ gives a solution $(12, -19)^{mathrm T}$, so there exists a matrix
              $$
              P = begin{bmatrix}
              1 & 12 \ 1 & -19
              end{bmatrix}
              $$

              such that
              $$
              P^{-1}B^5 P = mathrm {diag}(32,1).
              $$

              So we could take $B = Pmathrm {diag} (2, 1)P^{-1}$.






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                The characteristic polynomial is
                $$
                (x-20)(x-13)-12times 19 = x^2 - 33x +260 - 240 + 12= x^2 -33x + 32 = (x-32)(x-1),
                $$

                so $B^5$ is diagonalizable. Solve $(B^5 - 32I) x = 0$ gives a solution $(1,1)^{mathrm T}$, and solve $(B^5 - I)x = 0$ gives a solution $(12, -19)^{mathrm T}$, so there exists a matrix
                $$
                P = begin{bmatrix}
                1 & 12 \ 1 & -19
                end{bmatrix}
                $$

                such that
                $$
                P^{-1}B^5 P = mathrm {diag}(32,1).
                $$

                So we could take $B = Pmathrm {diag} (2, 1)P^{-1}$.






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                  The characteristic polynomial is
                  $$
                  (x-20)(x-13)-12times 19 = x^2 - 33x +260 - 240 + 12= x^2 -33x + 32 = (x-32)(x-1),
                  $$

                  so $B^5$ is diagonalizable. Solve $(B^5 - 32I) x = 0$ gives a solution $(1,1)^{mathrm T}$, and solve $(B^5 - I)x = 0$ gives a solution $(12, -19)^{mathrm T}$, so there exists a matrix
                  $$
                  P = begin{bmatrix}
                  1 & 12 \ 1 & -19
                  end{bmatrix}
                  $$

                  such that
                  $$
                  P^{-1}B^5 P = mathrm {diag}(32,1).
                  $$

                  So we could take $B = Pmathrm {diag} (2, 1)P^{-1}$.






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                  The characteristic polynomial is
                  $$
                  (x-20)(x-13)-12times 19 = x^2 - 33x +260 - 240 + 12= x^2 -33x + 32 = (x-32)(x-1),
                  $$

                  so $B^5$ is diagonalizable. Solve $(B^5 - 32I) x = 0$ gives a solution $(1,1)^{mathrm T}$, and solve $(B^5 - I)x = 0$ gives a solution $(12, -19)^{mathrm T}$, so there exists a matrix
                  $$
                  P = begin{bmatrix}
                  1 & 12 \ 1 & -19
                  end{bmatrix}
                  $$

                  such that
                  $$
                  P^{-1}B^5 P = mathrm {diag}(32,1).
                  $$

                  So we could take $B = Pmathrm {diag} (2, 1)P^{-1}$.







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