We have angle=arctan(dy/dx), but what happens when dx=0?












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Here is a formula: $text{angle}=arctan(dy/dx)$.



I can find an angle with my calculator for any value except $dx=0$.



My question is: is there no angle or, is there something that says when $dx=0$ the angle is found differently?










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    $arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
    – yoyo
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  • And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
    – GEdgar
    Aug 22 '11 at 14:42
















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Here is a formula: $text{angle}=arctan(dy/dx)$.



I can find an angle with my calculator for any value except $dx=0$.



My question is: is there no angle or, is there something that says when $dx=0$ the angle is found differently?










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    $arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
    – yoyo
    Mar 15 '11 at 16:44










  • And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
    – GEdgar
    Aug 22 '11 at 14:42














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Here is a formula: $text{angle}=arctan(dy/dx)$.



I can find an angle with my calculator for any value except $dx=0$.



My question is: is there no angle or, is there something that says when $dx=0$ the angle is found differently?










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Here is a formula: $text{angle}=arctan(dy/dx)$.



I can find an angle with my calculator for any value except $dx=0$.



My question is: is there no angle or, is there something that says when $dx=0$ the angle is found differently?







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    $arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
    – yoyo
    Mar 15 '11 at 16:44










  • And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
    – GEdgar
    Aug 22 '11 at 14:42














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    $arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
    – yoyo
    Mar 15 '11 at 16:44










  • And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
    – GEdgar
    Aug 22 '11 at 14:42








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$arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
– yoyo
Mar 15 '11 at 16:44




$arctan(infty)=pi/2, arctan(-infty)=-pi/2$ using the standard $arctan$. (take a look at a graph).
– yoyo
Mar 15 '11 at 16:44












And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
– GEdgar
Aug 22 '11 at 14:42




And the problem is, if you divide by zero, you don't know whether you get $infty$ or $-infty$ ... or maybe both, one from each side. ANYWAY, the angle is a right angle.
– GEdgar
Aug 22 '11 at 14:42










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If $dx$ is $0$, if you look in the Cartesian plane, you are standing in the y-axis, so the angle would be $frac{pi}{2}$ or $frac{3pi}{2}$, depending if $dy > 0$ or $dy < 0$.






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    Since none of the answers have mentioned this, I'm putting this for completeness' sake: advanced calculators and computing environments provide for a "two-argument" arctangent function $arctan(x,y)$ (denoted as atan2() in some environments, and with the order of the arguments sometimes reversed) that is especially intended for polar coordinate conversions. Briefly, $arctan(x,y)$ gives the same results as $arctanfrac{y}{x}$, adjusted when necessary so that the result is within $(-pi,pi]$, taking into account which quadrant the point $(x,y)$ is in. When $x=0$ and $yneq 0$, $arctan(0,y)=frac{pi}{2}mathrm{sign},y$.






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      Actually, the $angle$ that a point in $R^2$ with cartesian coordinates $(x,y)neq (0,0)$ makes with the positive x-axis is defined as the value $theta (x,y)$ such that



      $cos theta (x,y) = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$ and



      $sin theta (x,y) = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$,



      with $thetain [0, 2pi)$. Note that, defined in this way, there is a unique $theta$ for each point different from $(0,0)$.



      If $x>0$ and $y>0$, these formulas combined give $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$.



      If $x=0$ and $y>0$, it follows from the definition that $theta=pi/2$.



      You can also consider $theta in[-pi,pi)$, and in this case the formula $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$ is valid for all $y$ provided $x>0$.






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        You are correct in pointing out that
        $$
        theta = arctan{frac{y}{x}}
        $$
        is not such a great formula, since it
        will not work when $x = 0$.
        In fact, $arctan$ will always return a value in the interval $(-pi/2, pi/2)$, so it will give the wrong answer for the angle when $x < 0$!
        (Unless you don't care if the angle is pointing in the opposite direction from the vector.)



        What you really want
        the unique angle $theta$, say on the interval $[0, 2pi)$, such that
        begin{align*}
        sin theta = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \
        cos theta = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}.
        end{align*}
        What is the best way to calculate this?
        It's maybe not as elegant as you would like, but you can use
        $$
        theta =
        begin{cases}
        arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y ge 0 \
        2pi - arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y le 0.
        end{cases}
        $$






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          A formula of atan that is working when dx or dy=0.



          when dx=dy=0 the result is undefined.
          Let"s put dx=x and dy=y.



          f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)



              -sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))


          The angle is from 0 to 2pi.






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          If $dx$ is $0$, if you look in the Cartesian plane, you are standing in the y-axis, so the angle would be $frac{pi}{2}$ or $frac{3pi}{2}$, depending if $dy > 0$ or $dy < 0$.






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            If $dx$ is $0$, if you look in the Cartesian plane, you are standing in the y-axis, so the angle would be $frac{pi}{2}$ or $frac{3pi}{2}$, depending if $dy > 0$ or $dy < 0$.






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              If $dx$ is $0$, if you look in the Cartesian plane, you are standing in the y-axis, so the angle would be $frac{pi}{2}$ or $frac{3pi}{2}$, depending if $dy > 0$ or $dy < 0$.






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              If $dx$ is $0$, if you look in the Cartesian plane, you are standing in the y-axis, so the angle would be $frac{pi}{2}$ or $frac{3pi}{2}$, depending if $dy > 0$ or $dy < 0$.







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                  Since none of the answers have mentioned this, I'm putting this for completeness' sake: advanced calculators and computing environments provide for a "two-argument" arctangent function $arctan(x,y)$ (denoted as atan2() in some environments, and with the order of the arguments sometimes reversed) that is especially intended for polar coordinate conversions. Briefly, $arctan(x,y)$ gives the same results as $arctanfrac{y}{x}$, adjusted when necessary so that the result is within $(-pi,pi]$, taking into account which quadrant the point $(x,y)$ is in. When $x=0$ and $yneq 0$, $arctan(0,y)=frac{pi}{2}mathrm{sign},y$.






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                    Since none of the answers have mentioned this, I'm putting this for completeness' sake: advanced calculators and computing environments provide for a "two-argument" arctangent function $arctan(x,y)$ (denoted as atan2() in some environments, and with the order of the arguments sometimes reversed) that is especially intended for polar coordinate conversions. Briefly, $arctan(x,y)$ gives the same results as $arctanfrac{y}{x}$, adjusted when necessary so that the result is within $(-pi,pi]$, taking into account which quadrant the point $(x,y)$ is in. When $x=0$ and $yneq 0$, $arctan(0,y)=frac{pi}{2}mathrm{sign},y$.






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                      Since none of the answers have mentioned this, I'm putting this for completeness' sake: advanced calculators and computing environments provide for a "two-argument" arctangent function $arctan(x,y)$ (denoted as atan2() in some environments, and with the order of the arguments sometimes reversed) that is especially intended for polar coordinate conversions. Briefly, $arctan(x,y)$ gives the same results as $arctanfrac{y}{x}$, adjusted when necessary so that the result is within $(-pi,pi]$, taking into account which quadrant the point $(x,y)$ is in. When $x=0$ and $yneq 0$, $arctan(0,y)=frac{pi}{2}mathrm{sign},y$.






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                      Since none of the answers have mentioned this, I'm putting this for completeness' sake: advanced calculators and computing environments provide for a "two-argument" arctangent function $arctan(x,y)$ (denoted as atan2() in some environments, and with the order of the arguments sometimes reversed) that is especially intended for polar coordinate conversions. Briefly, $arctan(x,y)$ gives the same results as $arctanfrac{y}{x}$, adjusted when necessary so that the result is within $(-pi,pi]$, taking into account which quadrant the point $(x,y)$ is in. When $x=0$ and $yneq 0$, $arctan(0,y)=frac{pi}{2}mathrm{sign},y$.







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                          Actually, the $angle$ that a point in $R^2$ with cartesian coordinates $(x,y)neq (0,0)$ makes with the positive x-axis is defined as the value $theta (x,y)$ such that



                          $cos theta (x,y) = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$ and



                          $sin theta (x,y) = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$,



                          with $thetain [0, 2pi)$. Note that, defined in this way, there is a unique $theta$ for each point different from $(0,0)$.



                          If $x>0$ and $y>0$, these formulas combined give $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$.



                          If $x=0$ and $y>0$, it follows from the definition that $theta=pi/2$.



                          You can also consider $theta in[-pi,pi)$, and in this case the formula $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$ is valid for all $y$ provided $x>0$.






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                            Actually, the $angle$ that a point in $R^2$ with cartesian coordinates $(x,y)neq (0,0)$ makes with the positive x-axis is defined as the value $theta (x,y)$ such that



                            $cos theta (x,y) = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$ and



                            $sin theta (x,y) = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$,



                            with $thetain [0, 2pi)$. Note that, defined in this way, there is a unique $theta$ for each point different from $(0,0)$.



                            If $x>0$ and $y>0$, these formulas combined give $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$.



                            If $x=0$ and $y>0$, it follows from the definition that $theta=pi/2$.



                            You can also consider $theta in[-pi,pi)$, and in this case the formula $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$ is valid for all $y$ provided $x>0$.






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                              Actually, the $angle$ that a point in $R^2$ with cartesian coordinates $(x,y)neq (0,0)$ makes with the positive x-axis is defined as the value $theta (x,y)$ such that



                              $cos theta (x,y) = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$ and



                              $sin theta (x,y) = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$,



                              with $thetain [0, 2pi)$. Note that, defined in this way, there is a unique $theta$ for each point different from $(0,0)$.



                              If $x>0$ and $y>0$, these formulas combined give $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$.



                              If $x=0$ and $y>0$, it follows from the definition that $theta=pi/2$.



                              You can also consider $theta in[-pi,pi)$, and in this case the formula $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$ is valid for all $y$ provided $x>0$.






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                              Actually, the $angle$ that a point in $R^2$ with cartesian coordinates $(x,y)neq (0,0)$ makes with the positive x-axis is defined as the value $theta (x,y)$ such that



                              $cos theta (x,y) = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$ and



                              $sin theta (x,y) = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$,



                              with $thetain [0, 2pi)$. Note that, defined in this way, there is a unique $theta$ for each point different from $(0,0)$.



                              If $x>0$ and $y>0$, these formulas combined give $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$.



                              If $x=0$ and $y>0$, it follows from the definition that $theta=pi/2$.



                              You can also consider $theta in[-pi,pi)$, and in this case the formula $theta (x,y) = arctan(y/x)$ is valid for all $y$ provided $x>0$.







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                                  You are correct in pointing out that
                                  $$
                                  theta = arctan{frac{y}{x}}
                                  $$
                                  is not such a great formula, since it
                                  will not work when $x = 0$.
                                  In fact, $arctan$ will always return a value in the interval $(-pi/2, pi/2)$, so it will give the wrong answer for the angle when $x < 0$!
                                  (Unless you don't care if the angle is pointing in the opposite direction from the vector.)



                                  What you really want
                                  the unique angle $theta$, say on the interval $[0, 2pi)$, such that
                                  begin{align*}
                                  sin theta = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \
                                  cos theta = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}.
                                  end{align*}
                                  What is the best way to calculate this?
                                  It's maybe not as elegant as you would like, but you can use
                                  $$
                                  theta =
                                  begin{cases}
                                  arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y ge 0 \
                                  2pi - arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y le 0.
                                  end{cases}
                                  $$






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                                    You are correct in pointing out that
                                    $$
                                    theta = arctan{frac{y}{x}}
                                    $$
                                    is not such a great formula, since it
                                    will not work when $x = 0$.
                                    In fact, $arctan$ will always return a value in the interval $(-pi/2, pi/2)$, so it will give the wrong answer for the angle when $x < 0$!
                                    (Unless you don't care if the angle is pointing in the opposite direction from the vector.)



                                    What you really want
                                    the unique angle $theta$, say on the interval $[0, 2pi)$, such that
                                    begin{align*}
                                    sin theta = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \
                                    cos theta = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}.
                                    end{align*}
                                    What is the best way to calculate this?
                                    It's maybe not as elegant as you would like, but you can use
                                    $$
                                    theta =
                                    begin{cases}
                                    arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y ge 0 \
                                    2pi - arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y le 0.
                                    end{cases}
                                    $$






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                                      You are correct in pointing out that
                                      $$
                                      theta = arctan{frac{y}{x}}
                                      $$
                                      is not such a great formula, since it
                                      will not work when $x = 0$.
                                      In fact, $arctan$ will always return a value in the interval $(-pi/2, pi/2)$, so it will give the wrong answer for the angle when $x < 0$!
                                      (Unless you don't care if the angle is pointing in the opposite direction from the vector.)



                                      What you really want
                                      the unique angle $theta$, say on the interval $[0, 2pi)$, such that
                                      begin{align*}
                                      sin theta = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \
                                      cos theta = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}.
                                      end{align*}
                                      What is the best way to calculate this?
                                      It's maybe not as elegant as you would like, but you can use
                                      $$
                                      theta =
                                      begin{cases}
                                      arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y ge 0 \
                                      2pi - arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y le 0.
                                      end{cases}
                                      $$






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                                      You are correct in pointing out that
                                      $$
                                      theta = arctan{frac{y}{x}}
                                      $$
                                      is not such a great formula, since it
                                      will not work when $x = 0$.
                                      In fact, $arctan$ will always return a value in the interval $(-pi/2, pi/2)$, so it will give the wrong answer for the angle when $x < 0$!
                                      (Unless you don't care if the angle is pointing in the opposite direction from the vector.)



                                      What you really want
                                      the unique angle $theta$, say on the interval $[0, 2pi)$, such that
                                      begin{align*}
                                      sin theta = frac{y}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \
                                      cos theta = frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}}.
                                      end{align*}
                                      What is the best way to calculate this?
                                      It's maybe not as elegant as you would like, but you can use
                                      $$
                                      theta =
                                      begin{cases}
                                      arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y ge 0 \
                                      2pi - arccosleft( frac{x}{sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} right) &text{if } y le 0.
                                      end{cases}
                                      $$







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                                          A formula of atan that is working when dx or dy=0.



                                          when dx=dy=0 the result is undefined.
                                          Let"s put dx=x and dy=y.



                                          f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)



                                              -sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))


                                          The angle is from 0 to 2pi.






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                                          A formula of atan that is working when dx or dy=0.



                                          when dx=dy=0 the result is undefined.
                                          Let"s put dx=x and dy=y.



                                          f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)



                                              -sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))


                                          The angle is from 0 to 2pi.






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                                            Nov 20 '18 at 14:05














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                                          A formula of atan that is working when dx or dy=0.



                                          when dx=dy=0 the result is undefined.
                                          Let"s put dx=x and dy=y.



                                          f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)



                                              -sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))


                                          The angle is from 0 to 2pi.






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                                          A formula of atan that is working when dx or dy=0.



                                          when dx=dy=0 the result is undefined.
                                          Let"s put dx=x and dy=y.



                                          f(x,y)=pi()-pi()/2*(1+sign(x))* (1-sign(y^2))-pi()/4*(2+sign(x))*sign(y)



                                              -sign(x*y)*atan((abs(x)-abs(y))/(abs(x)+abs(y)))


                                          The angle is from 0 to 2pi.







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