Solving $sin^2 x +1=2x$
How do I solve this equation?
$$sin^2 x +1=2x$$
I have no idea how to attack the problem.
Thanks!
calculus trigonometry
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How do I solve this equation?
$$sin^2 x +1=2x$$
I have no idea how to attack the problem.
Thanks!
calculus trigonometry
Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05
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How do I solve this equation?
$$sin^2 x +1=2x$$
I have no idea how to attack the problem.
Thanks!
calculus trigonometry
How do I solve this equation?
$$sin^2 x +1=2x$$
I have no idea how to attack the problem.
Thanks!
calculus trigonometry
calculus trigonometry
edited Nov 21 '18 at 16:59


Blue
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L. G.
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Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05
|
show 1 more comment
Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05
Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
1
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
1
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05
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$$1le 1+sin^2(x)le 2implies frac 12le xle 1.$$
the function
$$f:xmapsto sin^2(x)+1-2x$$
is continuous at $[frac 12,1],$
$$f(frac 12)>0; ; f(1)<0,$$
and
$$f'(x)=sin(2x)-2<0.$$
By IVT,
there is a unique solution $alpha$ in $]frac 12,1[$.
$$alpha=lim_{nto+infty}u_n$$
with
$$u_0=1$$
and
$$u_{n+1}=u_n-frac{f(u_n)}{f'(u_n)}$$
This numerical method is known as Newton-Raphson.
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Once it is proved that $f(x)=sin^2(x)-2x+1$ has a unique real zero in the interval $[0,pi/4]$, its numerical determination is simple since $f(x)$ is a positive and convex function on $(0,pi/4)$ (due to $f''(x)>0$), hence by applying Newton's method with starting point $x=0$ we get
$$ rho approx 0.714836$$
in just four steps.
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Just for the fun of the approximation.
Using the double angle formula Rewrite the equation as $$cos(2x)+4x=3$$ Now, let $t=2x$ to make the equation
$$cos(t)+2t=3$$
Now, using the approximation
$$cos(t) simeqfrac{pi ^2-4t^2}{pi ^2+t^2}qquad (-frac pi 2 leq tleqfrac pi 2)$$ we get the cubic equation
$$2 t^3-7 t^2+2 pi ^2 t-2 pi ^2=0$$ which has only one real root. Using the hyperbolic solution for one real root, the result is really ugly but it evaluates as $tapprox 1.428167$ that is to say $xapprox 0.714083$ while the "exact" solution is $xapprox 0.714836$.
We can even do better building the $[2,2]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$
$$cos(2x)+4x-3=frac{(pi -3)+2 left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)+left(2-frac{2 pi }{3}right)
left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 } {1-frac{2}{3} left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 }$$ Solving the quadratic
$$x=frac pi 4+frac{6-sqrt{252-144 pi +24 pi ^2}}{4 pi -12}approx 0.714837$$
To even avoid solving the quadratic equation, building instead the $[1,3]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$ would lead to
$$x=frac pi 4 -frac{(pi -3) left(15-6 pi +pi ^2right)}{4 left(12-6 pi +pi ^2right)}approx 0.714837$$
add a comment |
There is no solution in terms of elementary functions - you can solve it only by a numerical algorithm. There is Newton's method - the 'goto' method; but possibly there is an algorithm particular to this one that converges particularly fast. Numerical algorithms is a very highly developed area of mathematics, and for various problems numerical algorithms exist that converge truly astoundingly fast! The one I mentioned - Newtons - converges very fast at nearly every application of it ... and for the vast majority of problems you can do at least that well.
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$$1le 1+sin^2(x)le 2implies frac 12le xle 1.$$
the function
$$f:xmapsto sin^2(x)+1-2x$$
is continuous at $[frac 12,1],$
$$f(frac 12)>0; ; f(1)<0,$$
and
$$f'(x)=sin(2x)-2<0.$$
By IVT,
there is a unique solution $alpha$ in $]frac 12,1[$.
$$alpha=lim_{nto+infty}u_n$$
with
$$u_0=1$$
and
$$u_{n+1}=u_n-frac{f(u_n)}{f'(u_n)}$$
This numerical method is known as Newton-Raphson.
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$$1le 1+sin^2(x)le 2implies frac 12le xle 1.$$
the function
$$f:xmapsto sin^2(x)+1-2x$$
is continuous at $[frac 12,1],$
$$f(frac 12)>0; ; f(1)<0,$$
and
$$f'(x)=sin(2x)-2<0.$$
By IVT,
there is a unique solution $alpha$ in $]frac 12,1[$.
$$alpha=lim_{nto+infty}u_n$$
with
$$u_0=1$$
and
$$u_{n+1}=u_n-frac{f(u_n)}{f'(u_n)}$$
This numerical method is known as Newton-Raphson.
add a comment |
$$1le 1+sin^2(x)le 2implies frac 12le xle 1.$$
the function
$$f:xmapsto sin^2(x)+1-2x$$
is continuous at $[frac 12,1],$
$$f(frac 12)>0; ; f(1)<0,$$
and
$$f'(x)=sin(2x)-2<0.$$
By IVT,
there is a unique solution $alpha$ in $]frac 12,1[$.
$$alpha=lim_{nto+infty}u_n$$
with
$$u_0=1$$
and
$$u_{n+1}=u_n-frac{f(u_n)}{f'(u_n)}$$
This numerical method is known as Newton-Raphson.
$$1le 1+sin^2(x)le 2implies frac 12le xle 1.$$
the function
$$f:xmapsto sin^2(x)+1-2x$$
is continuous at $[frac 12,1],$
$$f(frac 12)>0; ; f(1)<0,$$
and
$$f'(x)=sin(2x)-2<0.$$
By IVT,
there is a unique solution $alpha$ in $]frac 12,1[$.
$$alpha=lim_{nto+infty}u_n$$
with
$$u_0=1$$
and
$$u_{n+1}=u_n-frac{f(u_n)}{f'(u_n)}$$
This numerical method is known as Newton-Raphson.
edited Nov 21 '18 at 17:19
answered Nov 21 '18 at 17:13


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Once it is proved that $f(x)=sin^2(x)-2x+1$ has a unique real zero in the interval $[0,pi/4]$, its numerical determination is simple since $f(x)$ is a positive and convex function on $(0,pi/4)$ (due to $f''(x)>0$), hence by applying Newton's method with starting point $x=0$ we get
$$ rho approx 0.714836$$
in just four steps.
add a comment |
Once it is proved that $f(x)=sin^2(x)-2x+1$ has a unique real zero in the interval $[0,pi/4]$, its numerical determination is simple since $f(x)$ is a positive and convex function on $(0,pi/4)$ (due to $f''(x)>0$), hence by applying Newton's method with starting point $x=0$ we get
$$ rho approx 0.714836$$
in just four steps.
add a comment |
Once it is proved that $f(x)=sin^2(x)-2x+1$ has a unique real zero in the interval $[0,pi/4]$, its numerical determination is simple since $f(x)$ is a positive and convex function on $(0,pi/4)$ (due to $f''(x)>0$), hence by applying Newton's method with starting point $x=0$ we get
$$ rho approx 0.714836$$
in just four steps.
Once it is proved that $f(x)=sin^2(x)-2x+1$ has a unique real zero in the interval $[0,pi/4]$, its numerical determination is simple since $f(x)$ is a positive and convex function on $(0,pi/4)$ (due to $f''(x)>0$), hence by applying Newton's method with starting point $x=0$ we get
$$ rho approx 0.714836$$
in just four steps.
answered Nov 21 '18 at 17:09


Jack D'Aurizio
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Just for the fun of the approximation.
Using the double angle formula Rewrite the equation as $$cos(2x)+4x=3$$ Now, let $t=2x$ to make the equation
$$cos(t)+2t=3$$
Now, using the approximation
$$cos(t) simeqfrac{pi ^2-4t^2}{pi ^2+t^2}qquad (-frac pi 2 leq tleqfrac pi 2)$$ we get the cubic equation
$$2 t^3-7 t^2+2 pi ^2 t-2 pi ^2=0$$ which has only one real root. Using the hyperbolic solution for one real root, the result is really ugly but it evaluates as $tapprox 1.428167$ that is to say $xapprox 0.714083$ while the "exact" solution is $xapprox 0.714836$.
We can even do better building the $[2,2]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$
$$cos(2x)+4x-3=frac{(pi -3)+2 left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)+left(2-frac{2 pi }{3}right)
left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 } {1-frac{2}{3} left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 }$$ Solving the quadratic
$$x=frac pi 4+frac{6-sqrt{252-144 pi +24 pi ^2}}{4 pi -12}approx 0.714837$$
To even avoid solving the quadratic equation, building instead the $[1,3]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$ would lead to
$$x=frac pi 4 -frac{(pi -3) left(15-6 pi +pi ^2right)}{4 left(12-6 pi +pi ^2right)}approx 0.714837$$
add a comment |
Just for the fun of the approximation.
Using the double angle formula Rewrite the equation as $$cos(2x)+4x=3$$ Now, let $t=2x$ to make the equation
$$cos(t)+2t=3$$
Now, using the approximation
$$cos(t) simeqfrac{pi ^2-4t^2}{pi ^2+t^2}qquad (-frac pi 2 leq tleqfrac pi 2)$$ we get the cubic equation
$$2 t^3-7 t^2+2 pi ^2 t-2 pi ^2=0$$ which has only one real root. Using the hyperbolic solution for one real root, the result is really ugly but it evaluates as $tapprox 1.428167$ that is to say $xapprox 0.714083$ while the "exact" solution is $xapprox 0.714836$.
We can even do better building the $[2,2]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$
$$cos(2x)+4x-3=frac{(pi -3)+2 left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)+left(2-frac{2 pi }{3}right)
left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 } {1-frac{2}{3} left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 }$$ Solving the quadratic
$$x=frac pi 4+frac{6-sqrt{252-144 pi +24 pi ^2}}{4 pi -12}approx 0.714837$$
To even avoid solving the quadratic equation, building instead the $[1,3]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$ would lead to
$$x=frac pi 4 -frac{(pi -3) left(15-6 pi +pi ^2right)}{4 left(12-6 pi +pi ^2right)}approx 0.714837$$
add a comment |
Just for the fun of the approximation.
Using the double angle formula Rewrite the equation as $$cos(2x)+4x=3$$ Now, let $t=2x$ to make the equation
$$cos(t)+2t=3$$
Now, using the approximation
$$cos(t) simeqfrac{pi ^2-4t^2}{pi ^2+t^2}qquad (-frac pi 2 leq tleqfrac pi 2)$$ we get the cubic equation
$$2 t^3-7 t^2+2 pi ^2 t-2 pi ^2=0$$ which has only one real root. Using the hyperbolic solution for one real root, the result is really ugly but it evaluates as $tapprox 1.428167$ that is to say $xapprox 0.714083$ while the "exact" solution is $xapprox 0.714836$.
We can even do better building the $[2,2]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$
$$cos(2x)+4x-3=frac{(pi -3)+2 left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)+left(2-frac{2 pi }{3}right)
left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 } {1-frac{2}{3} left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 }$$ Solving the quadratic
$$x=frac pi 4+frac{6-sqrt{252-144 pi +24 pi ^2}}{4 pi -12}approx 0.714837$$
To even avoid solving the quadratic equation, building instead the $[1,3]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$ would lead to
$$x=frac pi 4 -frac{(pi -3) left(15-6 pi +pi ^2right)}{4 left(12-6 pi +pi ^2right)}approx 0.714837$$
Just for the fun of the approximation.
Using the double angle formula Rewrite the equation as $$cos(2x)+4x=3$$ Now, let $t=2x$ to make the equation
$$cos(t)+2t=3$$
Now, using the approximation
$$cos(t) simeqfrac{pi ^2-4t^2}{pi ^2+t^2}qquad (-frac pi 2 leq tleqfrac pi 2)$$ we get the cubic equation
$$2 t^3-7 t^2+2 pi ^2 t-2 pi ^2=0$$ which has only one real root. Using the hyperbolic solution for one real root, the result is really ugly but it evaluates as $tapprox 1.428167$ that is to say $xapprox 0.714083$ while the "exact" solution is $xapprox 0.714836$.
We can even do better building the $[2,2]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$
$$cos(2x)+4x-3=frac{(pi -3)+2 left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)+left(2-frac{2 pi }{3}right)
left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 } {1-frac{2}{3} left(x-frac{pi }{4}right)^2 }$$ Solving the quadratic
$$x=frac pi 4+frac{6-sqrt{252-144 pi +24 pi ^2}}{4 pi -12}approx 0.714837$$
To even avoid solving the quadratic equation, building instead the $[1,3]$ Padé approximant around $x=frac pi 4$ would lead to
$$x=frac pi 4 -frac{(pi -3) left(15-6 pi +pi ^2right)}{4 left(12-6 pi +pi ^2right)}approx 0.714837$$
edited Nov 23 '18 at 4:24
answered Nov 22 '18 at 18:12
Claude Leibovici
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There is no solution in terms of elementary functions - you can solve it only by a numerical algorithm. There is Newton's method - the 'goto' method; but possibly there is an algorithm particular to this one that converges particularly fast. Numerical algorithms is a very highly developed area of mathematics, and for various problems numerical algorithms exist that converge truly astoundingly fast! The one I mentioned - Newtons - converges very fast at nearly every application of it ... and for the vast majority of problems you can do at least that well.
add a comment |
There is no solution in terms of elementary functions - you can solve it only by a numerical algorithm. There is Newton's method - the 'goto' method; but possibly there is an algorithm particular to this one that converges particularly fast. Numerical algorithms is a very highly developed area of mathematics, and for various problems numerical algorithms exist that converge truly astoundingly fast! The one I mentioned - Newtons - converges very fast at nearly every application of it ... and for the vast majority of problems you can do at least that well.
add a comment |
There is no solution in terms of elementary functions - you can solve it only by a numerical algorithm. There is Newton's method - the 'goto' method; but possibly there is an algorithm particular to this one that converges particularly fast. Numerical algorithms is a very highly developed area of mathematics, and for various problems numerical algorithms exist that converge truly astoundingly fast! The one I mentioned - Newtons - converges very fast at nearly every application of it ... and for the vast majority of problems you can do at least that well.
There is no solution in terms of elementary functions - you can solve it only by a numerical algorithm. There is Newton's method - the 'goto' method; but possibly there is an algorithm particular to this one that converges particularly fast. Numerical algorithms is a very highly developed area of mathematics, and for various problems numerical algorithms exist that converge truly astoundingly fast! The one I mentioned - Newtons - converges very fast at nearly every application of it ... and for the vast majority of problems you can do at least that well.
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Since $x$ is both inside and outside of the sine, this is a transcendental equation. You'll only get approximate answers, say, using numerical methods.
– Blue
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
Use numerical methods or wolframalpha.com
– Vasya
Nov 21 '18 at 17:01
1
This equation does not have a nice algebraic solution. You can use numerical methods to find an approximation. If you draw a graph of $sin^x +1 -2x$ you can see about where it crosses the $x$ axis.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 21 '18 at 17:02
@Blue Well, sometimes these equations do have nice solutions e.g. $sin x=x$. It doesn't seem to be the case here
– A.Γ.
Nov 21 '18 at 17:04
@AweKumarJha did you mean Aryabhata?
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 21 '18 at 17:05