$B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ with the norm $Vertvert cdot Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}$ don't have normal structure











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Consider the space $ell ^{2}$ with the standard norm
begin{align*}
Vert x Vert _{2} = left( sum _{i =1} ^{infty} x _{i} ^{2} right) ^{1/2}
end{align*}

and we define the equivalent norm
begin{align*}
Vertvert x Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}= max{ Vert x Vert _{2}, sqrt{2}Vert x Vert _{infty} } mbox{.}
end{align*}



Let's define the positive part of the unit ball
begin{align*}
B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+} = lbrace x in ell ^{2}: ; Vert x Vert _{2} leqslant 1, ; x _{i} geqslant 0 rbrace mbox{.}
end{align*}

I want show that $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ with the norm $Vertvert cdot Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}$ don't have normal structure, and for show that, I should show that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$ = $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$. I showed that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) = 1$, but I don't know why $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$. What element in $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ can take for prove that $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$?










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    Consider the space $ell ^{2}$ with the standard norm
    begin{align*}
    Vert x Vert _{2} = left( sum _{i =1} ^{infty} x _{i} ^{2} right) ^{1/2}
    end{align*}

    and we define the equivalent norm
    begin{align*}
    Vertvert x Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}= max{ Vert x Vert _{2}, sqrt{2}Vert x Vert _{infty} } mbox{.}
    end{align*}



    Let's define the positive part of the unit ball
    begin{align*}
    B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+} = lbrace x in ell ^{2}: ; Vert x Vert _{2} leqslant 1, ; x _{i} geqslant 0 rbrace mbox{.}
    end{align*}

    I want show that $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ with the norm $Vertvert cdot Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}$ don't have normal structure, and for show that, I should show that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$ = $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$. I showed that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) = 1$, but I don't know why $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$. What element in $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ can take for prove that $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$?










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      Consider the space $ell ^{2}$ with the standard norm
      begin{align*}
      Vert x Vert _{2} = left( sum _{i =1} ^{infty} x _{i} ^{2} right) ^{1/2}
      end{align*}

      and we define the equivalent norm
      begin{align*}
      Vertvert x Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}= max{ Vert x Vert _{2}, sqrt{2}Vert x Vert _{infty} } mbox{.}
      end{align*}



      Let's define the positive part of the unit ball
      begin{align*}
      B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+} = lbrace x in ell ^{2}: ; Vert x Vert _{2} leqslant 1, ; x _{i} geqslant 0 rbrace mbox{.}
      end{align*}

      I want show that $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ with the norm $Vertvert cdot Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}$ don't have normal structure, and for show that, I should show that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$ = $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$. I showed that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) = 1$, but I don't know why $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$. What element in $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ can take for prove that $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$?










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      Consider the space $ell ^{2}$ with the standard norm
      begin{align*}
      Vert x Vert _{2} = left( sum _{i =1} ^{infty} x _{i} ^{2} right) ^{1/2}
      end{align*}

      and we define the equivalent norm
      begin{align*}
      Vertvert x Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}= max{ Vert x Vert _{2}, sqrt{2}Vert x Vert _{infty} } mbox{.}
      end{align*}



      Let's define the positive part of the unit ball
      begin{align*}
      B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+} = lbrace x in ell ^{2}: ; Vert x Vert _{2} leqslant 1, ; x _{i} geqslant 0 rbrace mbox{.}
      end{align*}

      I want show that $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ with the norm $Vertvert cdot Vertvert _{sqrt{2}}$ don't have normal structure, and for show that, I should show that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$ = $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+})$. I showed that diam$(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) = 1$, but I don't know why $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$. What element in $B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}$ can take for prove that $r _{x}(B _{ell ^{2}} ^{+}) =1$?







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          You can take $x_i=2^{-i/2}$, and then the distance of this element from zero is precisely $1$ in your norm, because the sum of the squares is $1$ and the supremum is $1/sqrt{2}$.






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          You can take $x_i=2^{-i/2}$, and then the distance of this element from zero is precisely $1$ in your norm, because the sum of the squares is $1$ and the supremum is $1/sqrt{2}$.






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