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How was Ernest Littlefield able to survive for 50 years?
In Season 1 Episode 11, Heliopolis, SG-1 travels to a planet where we first learn of the alliance for 4 races, and discover that Ernest Littlefield had survived his trip through the gate in 1945, and had been living alone until they arrived, some 50+ years later. The wiki page for Heliopolis states that the planet's life had been completely extinguished, and Ernest was the first, and only, living thing on the planet. So, how did one man, who had no supplies, manage to live for 50 years? Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?
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In Season 1 Episode 11, Heliopolis, SG-1 travels to a planet where we first learn of the alliance for 4 races, and discover that Ernest Littlefield had survived his trip through the gate in 1945, and had been living alone until they arrived, some 50+ years later. The wiki page for Heliopolis states that the planet's life had been completely extinguished, and Ernest was the first, and only, living thing on the planet. So, how did one man, who had no supplies, manage to live for 50 years? Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?
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What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
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@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
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@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42
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In Season 1 Episode 11, Heliopolis, SG-1 travels to a planet where we first learn of the alliance for 4 races, and discover that Ernest Littlefield had survived his trip through the gate in 1945, and had been living alone until they arrived, some 50+ years later. The wiki page for Heliopolis states that the planet's life had been completely extinguished, and Ernest was the first, and only, living thing on the planet. So, how did one man, who had no supplies, manage to live for 50 years? Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?
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edited Jan 3 at 20:12
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In Season 1 Episode 11, Heliopolis, SG-1 travels to a planet where we first learn of the alliance for 4 races, and discover that Ernest Littlefield had survived his trip through the gate in 1945, and had been living alone until they arrived, some 50+ years later. The wiki page for Heliopolis states that the planet's life had been completely extinguished, and Ernest was the first, and only, living thing on the planet. So, how did one man, who had no supplies, manage to live for 50 years? Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?
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What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
5
@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
1
@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42
add a comment |
1
What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
5
@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
1
@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42
1
1
What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
5
5
@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
1
1
@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42
@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42
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The long-shot of the castle shows that it's directly adjacent to an ocean. The land in the distance appears to have green on it. Since we know that he didn't take food supplies, it seems highly likely that Ernest subsisted on fish, whatever wildlife he could trap and whatever plants/greenery he could find, noting that when he first talks to Daniel he hands him a piece of fruit (h/t to @KeralynBrooks for spotting that).
For the record, the wiki source that claims that the planet is entirely devoid of life is from a licenced, but non-canon mission pack in the role-playing game Stargate: Fantastic Frontiers, and as such can be dismissed entirely since it conflicts with what we see on screen.
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
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You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
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He was seen holding a purple ball of something (fruit?), and he said
'Eat'
so probably he survived mainly on plant life.
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
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answered Jan 3 at 22:15
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2477
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
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The long-shot of the castle shows that it's directly adjacent to an ocean. The land in the distance appears to have green on it. Since we know that he didn't take food supplies, it seems highly likely that Ernest subsisted on fish, whatever wildlife he could trap and whatever plants/greenery he could find, noting that when he first talks to Daniel he hands him a piece of fruit (h/t to @KeralynBrooks for spotting that).
For the record, the wiki source that claims that the planet is entirely devoid of life is from a licenced, but non-canon mission pack in the role-playing game Stargate: Fantastic Frontiers, and as such can be dismissed entirely since it conflicts with what we see on screen.
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
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You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
|
show 1 more comment
The long-shot of the castle shows that it's directly adjacent to an ocean. The land in the distance appears to have green on it. Since we know that he didn't take food supplies, it seems highly likely that Ernest subsisted on fish, whatever wildlife he could trap and whatever plants/greenery he could find, noting that when he first talks to Daniel he hands him a piece of fruit (h/t to @KeralynBrooks for spotting that).
For the record, the wiki source that claims that the planet is entirely devoid of life is from a licenced, but non-canon mission pack in the role-playing game Stargate: Fantastic Frontiers, and as such can be dismissed entirely since it conflicts with what we see on screen.
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
398k10328963126
5
You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
|
show 1 more comment
The long-shot of the castle shows that it's directly adjacent to an ocean. The land in the distance appears to have green on it. Since we know that he didn't take food supplies, it seems highly likely that Ernest subsisted on fish, whatever wildlife he could trap and whatever plants/greenery he could find, noting that when he first talks to Daniel he hands him a piece of fruit (h/t to @KeralynBrooks for spotting that).
For the record, the wiki source that claims that the planet is entirely devoid of life is from a licenced, but non-canon mission pack in the role-playing game Stargate: Fantastic Frontiers, and as such can be dismissed entirely since it conflicts with what we see on screen.
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
398k10328963126
The long-shot of the castle shows that it's directly adjacent to an ocean. The land in the distance appears to have green on it. Since we know that he didn't take food supplies, it seems highly likely that Ernest subsisted on fish, whatever wildlife he could trap and whatever plants/greenery he could find, noting that when he first talks to Daniel he hands him a piece of fruit (h/t to @KeralynBrooks for spotting that).
For the record, the wiki source that claims that the planet is entirely devoid of life is from a licenced, but non-canon mission pack in the role-playing game Stargate: Fantastic Frontiers, and as such can be dismissed entirely since it conflicts with what we see on screen.
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
398k10328963126
edited Jan 3 at 22:30
answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
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answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
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answered Jan 3 at 21:02
ValorumValorum
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398k10328963126
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You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
|
show 1 more comment
5
You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
5
5
You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
You gotta love misleading, non-canon information being added to wiki's without clear distinction as to which is which. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the books yet, so assumed it had come from one of those. Thanks.
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:19
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
@Daishozen - The books are non-canon as well, even the novelisations.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:22
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
So, basically, if it isn't in the show it didn't happen?
– Daishozen
Jan 3 at 21:23
2
2
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
@Daishozen - Your mileage may vary. As far as canon is concerned, it goes on-screen, then everything else including the novelisations, interviews, EU novels, RPG games, etc etc
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 21:23
5
5
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
@11684 It's not unreasonable to ask for internally consistent fiction, though. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
– chepner
Jan 4 at 13:46
|
show 1 more comment
He was seen holding a purple ball of something (fruit?), and he said
'Eat'
so probably he survived mainly on plant life.
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
|
show 1 more comment
He was seen holding a purple ball of something (fruit?), and he said
'Eat'
so probably he survived mainly on plant life.
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
|
show 1 more comment
He was seen holding a purple ball of something (fruit?), and he said
'Eat'
so probably he survived mainly on plant life.
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
He was seen holding a purple ball of something (fruit?), and he said
'Eat'
so probably he survived mainly on plant life.
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
edited Jan 3 at 22:27
Valorum
398k10328963126
398k10328963126
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
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answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
answered Jan 3 at 22:15
Keralyn BrooksKeralyn Brooks
2477
2477
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
|
show 1 more comment
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
7
7
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
Good find. I've taken the liberty of adding a screenshot of what appears to be a piece of fruit.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 22:28
1
1
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
Looking at the closeup version, it looks like a bell pepper that's either purple or dark brown. Not sure if you can find those for sale or it was painted.
– C Teegarden
Jan 4 at 20:56
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
@CTeegarden I wonder if the fruit could have been easily chromakeyed, since bell peppers are naturally green!
– PhasedOut
Jan 4 at 22:28
1
1
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
purple peppers are a thing. easier than spray paint @Graham territorialseed.com/product/Purple-Star-Pepper-Seed/…
– JCRM
Jan 5 at 14:01
1
1
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
@JCRM Cool, I'll have to find some of those for this summer. :)
– Graham
Jan 8 at 9:58
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What's more, SG-1 arrives just as the place he's been living for decades is about to be destroyed.
– Buzz
Jan 3 at 20:13
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@Buzz - I'm pretty sure the vibrations from the stargate were responsible for the collapse.
– Valorum
Jan 3 at 20:40
There was also a thunderstorm happening.
– Loki
Jan 3 at 21:27
"Should he not have died of starvation after only a month or two after arriving?" I'd be more concerned about dying within a few days due to lack of water.
– jpmc26
Jan 4 at 0:47
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@jpmc26 - For all we know, that ocean is fresh water
– Valorum
Jan 4 at 10:42