Using the fact this equation is equidimensional. Calculate all associated eigenvalues.












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Let



$$x^2y''+xy'+lambda y=0,,,,,,y(1)=0,,,y(b)=0tag1$$



Using the fact this equation is equidimensional. Calculate all associated eigenvalues.



Is $lambda=0$ an eigenvalue?



Prove there exist infinite eigenvalues with one minimum, but there doesn't exist a maximum eigenvalue.



My attempt:



Note the equation $(1)$ is a Cauchy-Euler equation.



Suppose $y=x^r$ then $y'=r x^{r-1}$, $y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$.



Then



$$x^2r(r-1)x^{r-2}+xr x^{r-1}+r x^r=0implies(r^2-r)x^r=0iff r_1=0,,,, r_2=-1$$



Then the solution for the ODE is:
$$y(x)=C_1+C_2x^{-1}$$



Here I'm a little confused, to solve my problem. Can someone help me?










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    Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
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    – Robert Israel
    Jan 2 at 18:54






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    Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
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    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 18:59






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    Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
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    – Dylan
    Jan 2 at 19:17










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    Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
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    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 19:19
















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$begingroup$


Let



$$x^2y''+xy'+lambda y=0,,,,,,y(1)=0,,,y(b)=0tag1$$



Using the fact this equation is equidimensional. Calculate all associated eigenvalues.



Is $lambda=0$ an eigenvalue?



Prove there exist infinite eigenvalues with one minimum, but there doesn't exist a maximum eigenvalue.



My attempt:



Note the equation $(1)$ is a Cauchy-Euler equation.



Suppose $y=x^r$ then $y'=r x^{r-1}$, $y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$.



Then



$$x^2r(r-1)x^{r-2}+xr x^{r-1}+r x^r=0implies(r^2-r)x^r=0iff r_1=0,,,, r_2=-1$$



Then the solution for the ODE is:
$$y(x)=C_1+C_2x^{-1}$$



Here I'm a little confused, to solve my problem. Can someone help me?










share|cite|improve this question











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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Israel
    Jan 2 at 18:54






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    $begingroup$
    Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 18:59






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Dylan
    Jan 2 at 19:17










  • $begingroup$
    Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 19:19














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$begingroup$


Let



$$x^2y''+xy'+lambda y=0,,,,,,y(1)=0,,,y(b)=0tag1$$



Using the fact this equation is equidimensional. Calculate all associated eigenvalues.



Is $lambda=0$ an eigenvalue?



Prove there exist infinite eigenvalues with one minimum, but there doesn't exist a maximum eigenvalue.



My attempt:



Note the equation $(1)$ is a Cauchy-Euler equation.



Suppose $y=x^r$ then $y'=r x^{r-1}$, $y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$.



Then



$$x^2r(r-1)x^{r-2}+xr x^{r-1}+r x^r=0implies(r^2-r)x^r=0iff r_1=0,,,, r_2=-1$$



Then the solution for the ODE is:
$$y(x)=C_1+C_2x^{-1}$$



Here I'm a little confused, to solve my problem. Can someone help me?










share|cite|improve this question











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Let



$$x^2y''+xy'+lambda y=0,,,,,,y(1)=0,,,y(b)=0tag1$$



Using the fact this equation is equidimensional. Calculate all associated eigenvalues.



Is $lambda=0$ an eigenvalue?



Prove there exist infinite eigenvalues with one minimum, but there doesn't exist a maximum eigenvalue.



My attempt:



Note the equation $(1)$ is a Cauchy-Euler equation.



Suppose $y=x^r$ then $y'=r x^{r-1}$, $y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$.



Then



$$x^2r(r-1)x^{r-2}+xr x^{r-1}+r x^r=0implies(r^2-r)x^r=0iff r_1=0,,,, r_2=-1$$



Then the solution for the ODE is:
$$y(x)=C_1+C_2x^{-1}$$



Here I'm a little confused, to solve my problem. Can someone help me?







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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Israel
    Jan 2 at 18:54






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 18:59






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Dylan
    Jan 2 at 19:17










  • $begingroup$
    Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 19:19














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Israel
    Jan 2 at 18:54






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 18:59






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Dylan
    Jan 2 at 19:17










  • $begingroup$
    Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
    $endgroup$
    – Bvss12
    Jan 2 at 19:19








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1




$begingroup$
Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Jan 2 at 18:54




$begingroup$
Don't use $x^lambda$, use $x^r$ where $r$ is to be determined (it won't be $lambda$).
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Jan 2 at 18:54




1




1




$begingroup$
Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
$endgroup$
– Bvss12
Jan 2 at 18:59




$begingroup$
Ok, i go to edit that @RobertIsrael
$endgroup$
– Bvss12
Jan 2 at 18:59




1




1




$begingroup$
Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
$endgroup$
– Dylan
Jan 2 at 19:17




$begingroup$
Using $lambda$ for the power was the source of your confusion. The equation should be $r^2+lambda=0$
$endgroup$
– Dylan
Jan 2 at 19:17












$begingroup$
Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
$endgroup$
– Bvss12
Jan 2 at 19:19




$begingroup$
Ummm, yes you have reason. I go to solve that and update my question. @Dylan
$endgroup$
– Bvss12
Jan 2 at 19:19










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Considering



$$
left(x^2frac{d^2}{dt^2}+xfrac{d}{dt}+lambdaright)y = 0
$$



after the substitution $y = x^r$ we get



$$
x^rleft(r(r-1)+r +lambdaright)=0
$$



then



$$
r = pm i sqrtlambda
$$



then for $lambda > 0$ we have



$$
y = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln x) + C_2cos(sqrtlambda ln x)
$$



and now from the boundary conditions



$$
y(1) = C_2 = 0\
y(b) = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln b) = 0
$$



then we conclude



$$
sqrtlambdaln b = k piRightarrow lambda_ k = frac{pi^2}{ln^2 b}k^2
$$






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    $begingroup$

    Considering



    $$
    left(x^2frac{d^2}{dt^2}+xfrac{d}{dt}+lambdaright)y = 0
    $$



    after the substitution $y = x^r$ we get



    $$
    x^rleft(r(r-1)+r +lambdaright)=0
    $$



    then



    $$
    r = pm i sqrtlambda
    $$



    then for $lambda > 0$ we have



    $$
    y = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln x) + C_2cos(sqrtlambda ln x)
    $$



    and now from the boundary conditions



    $$
    y(1) = C_2 = 0\
    y(b) = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln b) = 0
    $$



    then we conclude



    $$
    sqrtlambdaln b = k piRightarrow lambda_ k = frac{pi^2}{ln^2 b}k^2
    $$






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      $begingroup$

      Considering



      $$
      left(x^2frac{d^2}{dt^2}+xfrac{d}{dt}+lambdaright)y = 0
      $$



      after the substitution $y = x^r$ we get



      $$
      x^rleft(r(r-1)+r +lambdaright)=0
      $$



      then



      $$
      r = pm i sqrtlambda
      $$



      then for $lambda > 0$ we have



      $$
      y = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln x) + C_2cos(sqrtlambda ln x)
      $$



      and now from the boundary conditions



      $$
      y(1) = C_2 = 0\
      y(b) = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln b) = 0
      $$



      then we conclude



      $$
      sqrtlambdaln b = k piRightarrow lambda_ k = frac{pi^2}{ln^2 b}k^2
      $$






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        $begingroup$

        Considering



        $$
        left(x^2frac{d^2}{dt^2}+xfrac{d}{dt}+lambdaright)y = 0
        $$



        after the substitution $y = x^r$ we get



        $$
        x^rleft(r(r-1)+r +lambdaright)=0
        $$



        then



        $$
        r = pm i sqrtlambda
        $$



        then for $lambda > 0$ we have



        $$
        y = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln x) + C_2cos(sqrtlambda ln x)
        $$



        and now from the boundary conditions



        $$
        y(1) = C_2 = 0\
        y(b) = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln b) = 0
        $$



        then we conclude



        $$
        sqrtlambdaln b = k piRightarrow lambda_ k = frac{pi^2}{ln^2 b}k^2
        $$






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        Considering



        $$
        left(x^2frac{d^2}{dt^2}+xfrac{d}{dt}+lambdaright)y = 0
        $$



        after the substitution $y = x^r$ we get



        $$
        x^rleft(r(r-1)+r +lambdaright)=0
        $$



        then



        $$
        r = pm i sqrtlambda
        $$



        then for $lambda > 0$ we have



        $$
        y = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln x) + C_2cos(sqrtlambda ln x)
        $$



        and now from the boundary conditions



        $$
        y(1) = C_2 = 0\
        y(b) = C_1sin(sqrtlambda ln b) = 0
        $$



        then we conclude



        $$
        sqrtlambdaln b = k piRightarrow lambda_ k = frac{pi^2}{ln^2 b}k^2
        $$







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