Why is document.write considered a “bad practice”?
I know document.write
is considered bad practice; and I'm hoping to compile a list of reasons to submit to a 3rd party vendor as to why they shouldn't use document.write
in implementations of their analytics code.
Please include your reason for claiming document.write
as a bad practice below.
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I know document.write
is considered bad practice; and I'm hoping to compile a list of reasons to submit to a 3rd party vendor as to why they shouldn't use document.write
in implementations of their analytics code.
Please include your reason for claiming document.write
as a bad practice below.
javascript
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I know document.write
is considered bad practice; and I'm hoping to compile a list of reasons to submit to a 3rd party vendor as to why they shouldn't use document.write
in implementations of their analytics code.
Please include your reason for claiming document.write
as a bad practice below.
javascript
I know document.write
is considered bad practice; and I'm hoping to compile a list of reasons to submit to a 3rd party vendor as to why they shouldn't use document.write
in implementations of their analytics code.
Please include your reason for claiming document.write
as a bad practice below.
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A few of the more serious problems:
document.write (henceforth DW) does not work in XHTML
DW does not directly modify the DOM, preventing further manipulation(trying to find evidence of this, but it's at best situational)DW executed after the page has finished loading will overwrite the page, or write a new page, or not work
DW executes where encountered: it cannot inject at a given node point
DW is effectively writing serialised text which is not the way the DOM works conceptually, and is an easy way to create bugs (.innerHTML has the same problem)
Far better to use the safe and DOM friendly DOM manipulation methods
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-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
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FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
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The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
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"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
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@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, ifdocument.write
is called after the document has finished loading
– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
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There's actually nothing wrong with document.write
, per se. The problem is that it's really easy to misuse it. Grossly, even.
In terms of vendors supplying analytics code (like Google Analytics) it's actually the easiest way for them to distribute such snippets
- It keeps the scripts small
- They don't have to worry about overriding already established onload events or including the necessary abstraction to add onload events safely
- It's extremely compatible
As long as you don't try to use it after the document has loaded, document.write
is not inherently evil, in my humble opinion.
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document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
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Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
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Overriding onload events? And what'saddEventListener
for?
– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not rundocument.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
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Another legitimate use of document.write
comes from the HTML5 Boilerplate index.html example.
<!-- Grab Google CDN's jQuery, with a protocol relative URL; fall back to local if offline -->
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.3/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/libs/jquery-1.6.3.min.js"></script>')</script>
I've also seen the same technique for using the json2.js JSON parse/stringify polyfill (needed by IE7 and below).
<script>window.JSON || document.write('<script src="json2.js"></script>')</script>
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Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
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@BMiner if you insert ascript
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.
– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
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@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use theonload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.
– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
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@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't havesrc
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.
– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to rundocument.write
calls that insert<script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
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It can block your page
document.write
only works while the page is loading; If you call it after the page is done loading, it will overwrite the whole page.
This effectively means you have to call it from an inline script block - And that will prevent the browser from processing parts of the page that follow. Scripts and Images will not be downloaded until the writing block is finished.
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Pro:
- It's the easiest way to embed inline content from an external (to your host/domain) script.
- You can overwrite the entire content in a frame/iframe. I used to use this technique a lot for menu/navigation pieces before more modern Ajax techniques were widely available (1998-2002).
Con:
- It serializes the rendering engine to pause until said external script is loaded, which could take much longer than an internal script.
- It is usually used in such a way that the script is placed within the content, which is considered bad-form.
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There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to rundocument.write
that creates<script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
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Here's my twopence worth, in general you shouldn't use document.write
for heavy lifting, but there is one instance where it is definitely useful:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html
I discovered this recently trying to create an AJAX slider gallery. I created two nested divs, and applied width
/height
and overflow: hidden
to the outer <div>
with JS. This was so that in the event that the browser had JS disabled, the div would float to accommodate the images in the gallery - some nice graceful degradation.
Thing is, as with the article above, this JS hijacking of the CSS didn't kick in until the page had loaded, causing a momentary flash as the div was loaded. So I needed to write a CSS rule, or include a sheet, as the page loaded.
Obviously, this won't work in XHTML, but since XHTML appears to be something of a dead duck (and renders as tag soup in IE) it might be worth re-evaluating your choice of DOCTYPE...
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It breaks pages using XML rendering (like XHTML pages).
Best: some browser switch back to HTML rendering and everything works fine.
Probable: some browser disable the document.write() function in XML rendering mode.
Worst: some browser will fire an XML error whenever using the document.write() function.
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It overwrites content on the page which is the most obvious reason but I wouldn't call it "bad".
It just doesn't have much use unless you're creating an entire document using JavaScript in which case you may start with document.write.
Even so, you aren't really leveraging the DOM when you use document.write--you are just dumping a blob of text into the document so I'd say it's bad form.
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One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
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@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
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Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something likediv.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.
– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
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Off the top of my head:
document.write
needs to be used in the page load or body load. So if you want to use the script in any other time to update your page content document.write is pretty much useless.Technically
document.write
will only update HTML pages not XHTML/XML. IE seems to be pretty forgiving of this fact but other browsers will not be.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
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IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
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XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
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Chrome may block document.write
that inserts a script in certain cases. When this happens, it will display this warning in the console:
A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, ..., is invoked via
document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has
poor network connectivity.
References:
This article on developers.google.com goes into more detail.- https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104
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One can think of document.write() (and .innerHTML) as evaluating a source code string. This can be very handy for many applications. For example if you get HTML code as a string from some source, it is handy to just "evaluate" it.
In the context of Lisp, DOM manipulation would be like manipulating a list structure, e.g. create the list (orange) by doing:
(cons 'orange '())
And document.write() would be like evaluating a string, e.g. create a list by evaluating a source code string like this:
(eval-string "(cons 'orange '())")
Lisp also has the very useful ability to create code using list manipulation (like using the "DOM style" to create a JS parse tree). This means you can build up a list structure using the "DOM style", rather than the "string style", and then run that code, e.g. like this:
(eval '(cons 'orange '()))
If you implement coding tools, like simple live editors, it is very handy to have the ability to quickly evaluate a string, for example using document.write() or .innerHTML. Lisp is ideal in this sense, but you can do very cool stuff also in JS, and many people are doing that, like http://jsbin.com/
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- A simple reason why
document.write
is a bad practice is that you cannot come up with a scenario where you cannot find a better alternative. - Another reason is that you are dealing with strings instead of objects (it is very primitive).
- It does only append to documents.
- It has nothing of the beauty of for instance the MVC (Model-View-Controller) pattern.
- It is a lot more powerful to present dynamic content with ajax+jQuery or angularJS.
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times withoutdocument.write
.
– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
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The disadvantages of document.write mainly depends on these 3 factors:
a) Implementation
The document.write() is mostly used to write content to the screen as soon as that content is needed. This means it happens anywhere, either in a JavaScript file or inside a script tag within an HTML file. With the script tag being placed anywhere within such an HTML file, it is a bad idea to have document.write() statements inside script blocks that are intertwined with HTML inside a web page.
b) Rendering
Well designed code in general will take any dynamically generated content, store it in memory, keep manipulating it as it passes through the code before it finally gets spit out to the screen. So to reiterate the last point in the preceding section, rendering content in-place may render faster than other content that may be relied upon, but it may not be available to the other code that in turn requires the content to be rendered for processing. To solve this dilemma we need to get rid of the document.write() and implement it the right way.
c) Impossible Manipulation
Once it's written it's done and over with. We cannot go back to manipulate it without tapping into the DOM.
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Based on analysis done by Google-Chrome Dev Tools' Lighthouse Audit
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Browser Violation
.write
is considered a browser violation as it halts the parser from rendering the page. The parser receives the message that the document is being modified; hence, it gets blocked until JS has completed its process. Only at this time will the parser resume.
Performance
The biggest consequence of employing such a method is lowered performance. The browser will take longer to load page content. The adverse reaction on load time depends on what is being written to the document. You won't see much of a difference if you are adding a <p>
tag to the DOM as opposed to passing an array of 50-some references to JavaScript libraries (something which I have seen in working code and resulted in an 11 second delay - of course, this also depends on your hardware).
All in all, it's best to steer clear of this method if you can help it.
For more info see Intervening against document.write()
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I think the biggest problem is that any elements written via document.write are added to the end of the page's elements. That's rarely the desired effect with modern page layouts and AJAX. (you have to keep in mind that the elements in the DOM are temporal, and when the script runs may affect its behavior).
It's much better to set a placeholder element on the page, and then manipulate it's innerHTML.
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This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
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@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
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@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
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A few of the more serious problems:
document.write (henceforth DW) does not work in XHTML
DW does not directly modify the DOM, preventing further manipulation(trying to find evidence of this, but it's at best situational)DW executed after the page has finished loading will overwrite the page, or write a new page, or not work
DW executes where encountered: it cannot inject at a given node point
DW is effectively writing serialised text which is not the way the DOM works conceptually, and is an easy way to create bugs (.innerHTML has the same problem)
Far better to use the safe and DOM friendly DOM manipulation methods
38
-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
7
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
7
The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
7
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
7
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, ifdocument.write
is called after the document has finished loading
– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
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A few of the more serious problems:
document.write (henceforth DW) does not work in XHTML
DW does not directly modify the DOM, preventing further manipulation(trying to find evidence of this, but it's at best situational)DW executed after the page has finished loading will overwrite the page, or write a new page, or not work
DW executes where encountered: it cannot inject at a given node point
DW is effectively writing serialised text which is not the way the DOM works conceptually, and is an easy way to create bugs (.innerHTML has the same problem)
Far better to use the safe and DOM friendly DOM manipulation methods
38
-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
7
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
7
The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
7
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
7
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, ifdocument.write
is called after the document has finished loading
– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
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show 13 more comments
A few of the more serious problems:
document.write (henceforth DW) does not work in XHTML
DW does not directly modify the DOM, preventing further manipulation(trying to find evidence of this, but it's at best situational)DW executed after the page has finished loading will overwrite the page, or write a new page, or not work
DW executes where encountered: it cannot inject at a given node point
DW is effectively writing serialised text which is not the way the DOM works conceptually, and is an easy way to create bugs (.innerHTML has the same problem)
Far better to use the safe and DOM friendly DOM manipulation methods
A few of the more serious problems:
document.write (henceforth DW) does not work in XHTML
DW does not directly modify the DOM, preventing further manipulation(trying to find evidence of this, but it's at best situational)DW executed after the page has finished loading will overwrite the page, or write a new page, or not work
DW executes where encountered: it cannot inject at a given node point
DW is effectively writing serialised text which is not the way the DOM works conceptually, and is an easy way to create bugs (.innerHTML has the same problem)
Far better to use the safe and DOM friendly DOM manipulation methods
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-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
7
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
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The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
7
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
7
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, ifdocument.write
is called after the document has finished loading
– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
|
show 13 more comments
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-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
7
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
7
The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
7
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
7
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, ifdocument.write
is called after the document has finished loading
– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
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-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
-1, it absolutely modifies the DOM. Everything else is fine. While I understand the urge to depend on structure and methods which can keep you from harm, this may be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 15:50
7
7
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
FireBug is not a true representation of the DOM. It is mozilla's attempt to parse HTML into a DOM. You can have totally broken HTML look proper in the Firebug DOM view.
– FlySwat
Apr 29 '09 at 16:17
7
7
The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
The DOM is the data structure used to render the page and as such is the alpha and the omega of what the user sees on the page. You are correct that HTML != DOM, but it's immaterial to the question of whether or NOT the DOM is modified by DW. If DW didn't modify the DOM, you don't see the screen - that's true of all browsers and always will be as long as the DOM is what's used to render the page.
– cgp
Apr 29 '09 at 16:41
7
7
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
"DW executes where encountered" - not always a disadvantage, indeed it could be considered an advantage for certain things, e.g., adding script elements (actually about the only thing I'd use DW for, and even then I'd think twice).
– nnnnnn
Dec 25 '11 at 12:16
7
7
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, if
document.write
is called after the document has finished loading– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
@RicardoRivaldo Yes, they do, if
document.write
is called after the document has finished loading– Izkata
Sep 19 '13 at 2:37
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There's actually nothing wrong with document.write
, per se. The problem is that it's really easy to misuse it. Grossly, even.
In terms of vendors supplying analytics code (like Google Analytics) it's actually the easiest way for them to distribute such snippets
- It keeps the scripts small
- They don't have to worry about overriding already established onload events or including the necessary abstraction to add onload events safely
- It's extremely compatible
As long as you don't try to use it after the document has loaded, document.write
is not inherently evil, in my humble opinion.
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document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
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Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
1
Overriding onload events? And what'saddEventListener
for?
– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not rundocument.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
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There's actually nothing wrong with document.write
, per se. The problem is that it's really easy to misuse it. Grossly, even.
In terms of vendors supplying analytics code (like Google Analytics) it's actually the easiest way for them to distribute such snippets
- It keeps the scripts small
- They don't have to worry about overriding already established onload events or including the necessary abstraction to add onload events safely
- It's extremely compatible
As long as you don't try to use it after the document has loaded, document.write
is not inherently evil, in my humble opinion.
3
document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
27
Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
1
Overriding onload events? And what'saddEventListener
for?
– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not rundocument.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
add a comment |
There's actually nothing wrong with document.write
, per se. The problem is that it's really easy to misuse it. Grossly, even.
In terms of vendors supplying analytics code (like Google Analytics) it's actually the easiest way for them to distribute such snippets
- It keeps the scripts small
- They don't have to worry about overriding already established onload events or including the necessary abstraction to add onload events safely
- It's extremely compatible
As long as you don't try to use it after the document has loaded, document.write
is not inherently evil, in my humble opinion.
There's actually nothing wrong with document.write
, per se. The problem is that it's really easy to misuse it. Grossly, even.
In terms of vendors supplying analytics code (like Google Analytics) it's actually the easiest way for them to distribute such snippets
- It keeps the scripts small
- They don't have to worry about overriding already established onload events or including the necessary abstraction to add onload events safely
- It's extremely compatible
As long as you don't try to use it after the document has loaded, document.write
is not inherently evil, in my humble opinion.
edited Dec 4 '11 at 0:25


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Peter BaileyPeter Bailey
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document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
27
Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
1
Overriding onload events? And what'saddEventListener
for?
– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not rundocument.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
add a comment |
3
document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
27
Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
1
Overriding onload events? And what'saddEventListener
for?
– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not rundocument.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
3
3
document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
document.write does really horrible things to the html parsers, and is only "extremely compatible" in simple cases.
– olliej
Apr 29 '09 at 19:24
27
27
Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Like the insertion of an analytics tag? That is, after all, part of the original question. And by extremely compatible, I mean for just raw browser support for the document.write method.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 19:28
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
Anything that works with the latest versions of Chrome / IE / Safari / Opera / FireFox is considered compatible.
– Pacerier
Oct 12 '14 at 8:22
1
1
Overriding onload events? And what's
addEventListener
for?– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Overriding onload events? And what's
addEventListener
for?– m93a
Feb 13 '15 at 19:48
Chrome will not run
document.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
Chrome will not run
document.write
invocations that insert a script when certain conditions are met.– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:21
add a comment |
Another legitimate use of document.write
comes from the HTML5 Boilerplate index.html example.
<!-- Grab Google CDN's jQuery, with a protocol relative URL; fall back to local if offline -->
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.3/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/libs/jquery-1.6.3.min.js"></script>')</script>
I've also seen the same technique for using the json2.js JSON parse/stringify polyfill (needed by IE7 and below).
<script>window.JSON || document.write('<script src="json2.js"></script>')</script>
9
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
7
@BMiner if you insert ascript
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.
– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
2
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use theonload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.
– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
1
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't havesrc
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.
– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to rundocument.write
calls that insert<script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
add a comment |
Another legitimate use of document.write
comes from the HTML5 Boilerplate index.html example.
<!-- Grab Google CDN's jQuery, with a protocol relative URL; fall back to local if offline -->
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.3/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/libs/jquery-1.6.3.min.js"></script>')</script>
I've also seen the same technique for using the json2.js JSON parse/stringify polyfill (needed by IE7 and below).
<script>window.JSON || document.write('<script src="json2.js"></script>')</script>
9
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
7
@BMiner if you insert ascript
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.
– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
2
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use theonload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.
– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
1
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't havesrc
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.
– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to rundocument.write
calls that insert<script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
add a comment |
Another legitimate use of document.write
comes from the HTML5 Boilerplate index.html example.
<!-- Grab Google CDN's jQuery, with a protocol relative URL; fall back to local if offline -->
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.3/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/libs/jquery-1.6.3.min.js"></script>')</script>
I've also seen the same technique for using the json2.js JSON parse/stringify polyfill (needed by IE7 and below).
<script>window.JSON || document.write('<script src="json2.js"></script>')</script>
Another legitimate use of document.write
comes from the HTML5 Boilerplate index.html example.
<!-- Grab Google CDN's jQuery, with a protocol relative URL; fall back to local if offline -->
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.3/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/libs/jquery-1.6.3.min.js"></script>')</script>
I've also seen the same technique for using the json2.js JSON parse/stringify polyfill (needed by IE7 and below).
<script>window.JSON || document.write('<script src="json2.js"></script>')</script>
edited Oct 24 '14 at 20:41
Guilherme Garnier
1,9431919
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answered Sep 8 '11 at 20:49


Kevin HakansonKevin Hakanson
30.4k22115141
30.4k22115141
9
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
7
@BMiner if you insert ascript
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.
– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
2
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use theonload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.
– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
1
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't havesrc
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.
– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to rundocument.write
calls that insert<script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
add a comment |
9
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
7
@BMiner if you insert ascript
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.
– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
2
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use theonload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.
– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
1
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't havesrc
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.
– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to rundocument.write
calls that insert<script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
9
9
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
Not bad use here, but still "better" to use DOM manipulation functions -- even Google does it for Google Analytics. Snippet is here.
– BMiner
Jan 22 '13 at 14:40
7
7
@BMiner if you insert a
script
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
@BMiner if you insert a
script
element via DOM manipulation, is it loaded synchronously? Unless it is, it's not a replacement.– John Dvorak
Jun 5 '13 at 10:41
2
2
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use the
onload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
@JanDvorak - Good point; when using DOM manipulations, browsers will generally load the script asynchronously. You can use the
onload
DOM event to determine when the asynchronously loaded script is available for use.– BMiner
Jun 6 '13 at 18:16
1
1
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't have
src
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
@JanDvorak It is loaded synchronously if it isn't external (doesn't have
src
). Otherwise it will be executed "as soon as possible", asynchronously.– Oriol
Aug 14 '16 at 23:51
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to run
document.write
calls that insert <script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
This still can break, as Chrome will deliberately refuse to run
document.write
calls that insert <script>
tags if the user is on a 2G connection. See developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:13
add a comment |
It can block your page
document.write
only works while the page is loading; If you call it after the page is done loading, it will overwrite the whole page.
This effectively means you have to call it from an inline script block - And that will prevent the browser from processing parts of the page that follow. Scripts and Images will not be downloaded until the writing block is finished.
add a comment |
It can block your page
document.write
only works while the page is loading; If you call it after the page is done loading, it will overwrite the whole page.
This effectively means you have to call it from an inline script block - And that will prevent the browser from processing parts of the page that follow. Scripts and Images will not be downloaded until the writing block is finished.
add a comment |
It can block your page
document.write
only works while the page is loading; If you call it after the page is done loading, it will overwrite the whole page.
This effectively means you have to call it from an inline script block - And that will prevent the browser from processing parts of the page that follow. Scripts and Images will not be downloaded until the writing block is finished.
It can block your page
document.write
only works while the page is loading; If you call it after the page is done loading, it will overwrite the whole page.
This effectively means you have to call it from an inline script block - And that will prevent the browser from processing parts of the page that follow. Scripts and Images will not be downloaded until the writing block is finished.
edited Aug 20 '14 at 7:38


T J
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answered Jul 14 '11 at 17:19
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add a comment |
Pro:
- It's the easiest way to embed inline content from an external (to your host/domain) script.
- You can overwrite the entire content in a frame/iframe. I used to use this technique a lot for menu/navigation pieces before more modern Ajax techniques were widely available (1998-2002).
Con:
- It serializes the rendering engine to pause until said external script is loaded, which could take much longer than an internal script.
- It is usually used in such a way that the script is placed within the content, which is considered bad-form.
2
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to rundocument.write
that creates<script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
add a comment |
Pro:
- It's the easiest way to embed inline content from an external (to your host/domain) script.
- You can overwrite the entire content in a frame/iframe. I used to use this technique a lot for menu/navigation pieces before more modern Ajax techniques were widely available (1998-2002).
Con:
- It serializes the rendering engine to pause until said external script is loaded, which could take much longer than an internal script.
- It is usually used in such a way that the script is placed within the content, which is considered bad-form.
2
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to rundocument.write
that creates<script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
add a comment |
Pro:
- It's the easiest way to embed inline content from an external (to your host/domain) script.
- You can overwrite the entire content in a frame/iframe. I used to use this technique a lot for menu/navigation pieces before more modern Ajax techniques were widely available (1998-2002).
Con:
- It serializes the rendering engine to pause until said external script is loaded, which could take much longer than an internal script.
- It is usually used in such a way that the script is placed within the content, which is considered bad-form.
Pro:
- It's the easiest way to embed inline content from an external (to your host/domain) script.
- You can overwrite the entire content in a frame/iframe. I used to use this technique a lot for menu/navigation pieces before more modern Ajax techniques were widely available (1998-2002).
Con:
- It serializes the rendering engine to pause until said external script is loaded, which could take much longer than an internal script.
- It is usually used in such a way that the script is placed within the content, which is considered bad-form.
edited Nov 19 '13 at 20:54
answered Apr 29 '09 at 16:19
Tracker1Tracker1
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2
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to rundocument.write
that creates<script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
add a comment |
2
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to rundocument.write
that creates<script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…
– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
2
2
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to run
document.write
that creates <script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
There are more cons than that. For instance, Google Chrome will refuse to run
document.write
that creates <script>
tag under certain circumstances. developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/08/…– Flimm
Jul 12 '17 at 15:14
add a comment |
Here's my twopence worth, in general you shouldn't use document.write
for heavy lifting, but there is one instance where it is definitely useful:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html
I discovered this recently trying to create an AJAX slider gallery. I created two nested divs, and applied width
/height
and overflow: hidden
to the outer <div>
with JS. This was so that in the event that the browser had JS disabled, the div would float to accommodate the images in the gallery - some nice graceful degradation.
Thing is, as with the article above, this JS hijacking of the CSS didn't kick in until the page had loaded, causing a momentary flash as the div was loaded. So I needed to write a CSS rule, or include a sheet, as the page loaded.
Obviously, this won't work in XHTML, but since XHTML appears to be something of a dead duck (and renders as tag soup in IE) it might be worth re-evaluating your choice of DOCTYPE...
add a comment |
Here's my twopence worth, in general you shouldn't use document.write
for heavy lifting, but there is one instance where it is definitely useful:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html
I discovered this recently trying to create an AJAX slider gallery. I created two nested divs, and applied width
/height
and overflow: hidden
to the outer <div>
with JS. This was so that in the event that the browser had JS disabled, the div would float to accommodate the images in the gallery - some nice graceful degradation.
Thing is, as with the article above, this JS hijacking of the CSS didn't kick in until the page had loaded, causing a momentary flash as the div was loaded. So I needed to write a CSS rule, or include a sheet, as the page loaded.
Obviously, this won't work in XHTML, but since XHTML appears to be something of a dead duck (and renders as tag soup in IE) it might be worth re-evaluating your choice of DOCTYPE...
add a comment |
Here's my twopence worth, in general you shouldn't use document.write
for heavy lifting, but there is one instance where it is definitely useful:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html
I discovered this recently trying to create an AJAX slider gallery. I created two nested divs, and applied width
/height
and overflow: hidden
to the outer <div>
with JS. This was so that in the event that the browser had JS disabled, the div would float to accommodate the images in the gallery - some nice graceful degradation.
Thing is, as with the article above, this JS hijacking of the CSS didn't kick in until the page had loaded, causing a momentary flash as the div was loaded. So I needed to write a CSS rule, or include a sheet, as the page loaded.
Obviously, this won't work in XHTML, but since XHTML appears to be something of a dead duck (and renders as tag soup in IE) it might be worth re-evaluating your choice of DOCTYPE...
Here's my twopence worth, in general you shouldn't use document.write
for heavy lifting, but there is one instance where it is definitely useful:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/three_javascrip_1.html
I discovered this recently trying to create an AJAX slider gallery. I created two nested divs, and applied width
/height
and overflow: hidden
to the outer <div>
with JS. This was so that in the event that the browser had JS disabled, the div would float to accommodate the images in the gallery - some nice graceful degradation.
Thing is, as with the article above, this JS hijacking of the CSS didn't kick in until the page had loaded, causing a momentary flash as the div was loaded. So I needed to write a CSS rule, or include a sheet, as the page loaded.
Obviously, this won't work in XHTML, but since XHTML appears to be something of a dead duck (and renders as tag soup in IE) it might be worth re-evaluating your choice of DOCTYPE...
edited Dec 4 '11 at 0:31


Ry-♦
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It breaks pages using XML rendering (like XHTML pages).
Best: some browser switch back to HTML rendering and everything works fine.
Probable: some browser disable the document.write() function in XML rendering mode.
Worst: some browser will fire an XML error whenever using the document.write() function.
add a comment |
It breaks pages using XML rendering (like XHTML pages).
Best: some browser switch back to HTML rendering and everything works fine.
Probable: some browser disable the document.write() function in XML rendering mode.
Worst: some browser will fire an XML error whenever using the document.write() function.
add a comment |
It breaks pages using XML rendering (like XHTML pages).
Best: some browser switch back to HTML rendering and everything works fine.
Probable: some browser disable the document.write() function in XML rendering mode.
Worst: some browser will fire an XML error whenever using the document.write() function.
It breaks pages using XML rendering (like XHTML pages).
Best: some browser switch back to HTML rendering and everything works fine.
Probable: some browser disable the document.write() function in XML rendering mode.
Worst: some browser will fire an XML error whenever using the document.write() function.
answered Apr 29 '09 at 15:44
Vincent RobertVincent Robert
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It overwrites content on the page which is the most obvious reason but I wouldn't call it "bad".
It just doesn't have much use unless you're creating an entire document using JavaScript in which case you may start with document.write.
Even so, you aren't really leveraging the DOM when you use document.write--you are just dumping a blob of text into the document so I'd say it's bad form.
1
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
5
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
2
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something likediv.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.
– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
add a comment |
It overwrites content on the page which is the most obvious reason but I wouldn't call it "bad".
It just doesn't have much use unless you're creating an entire document using JavaScript in which case you may start with document.write.
Even so, you aren't really leveraging the DOM when you use document.write--you are just dumping a blob of text into the document so I'd say it's bad form.
1
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
5
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
2
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something likediv.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.
– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
add a comment |
It overwrites content on the page which is the most obvious reason but I wouldn't call it "bad".
It just doesn't have much use unless you're creating an entire document using JavaScript in which case you may start with document.write.
Even so, you aren't really leveraging the DOM when you use document.write--you are just dumping a blob of text into the document so I'd say it's bad form.
It overwrites content on the page which is the most obvious reason but I wouldn't call it "bad".
It just doesn't have much use unless you're creating an entire document using JavaScript in which case you may start with document.write.
Even so, you aren't really leveraging the DOM when you use document.write--you are just dumping a blob of text into the document so I'd say it's bad form.
answered Apr 29 '09 at 15:29
aleembaleemb
22.2k1588106
22.2k1588106
1
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
5
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
2
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something likediv.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.
– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
add a comment |
1
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
5
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
2
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something likediv.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.
– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
1
1
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
One clarification: document.write inserts contents on the page, it doesn't overwrite them.
– Peter Dolberg
Apr 29 '09 at 15:45
5
5
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
@Peter, it does overwrite the content if you call it after the document is loaded. I'm guessing that's what aleemb means.
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:09
2
2
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something like
div.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
Are you suggesting that one should instead manually build the individual DOM nodes in code rather than just doing something like
div.innerHTML = "<label for='MySelect'>Choose One</label><select id='MySelect'><option value='foo' selected=''>foo</option><option value='bar'>bar</option></select>";
? That seems like it would produce a lot of unnecessary and less readable code. It's also the exact opposite of the approach John Resig and other JS developers advocate.– Lèse majesté
Dec 26 '12 at 8:25
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Off the top of my head:
document.write
needs to be used in the page load or body load. So if you want to use the script in any other time to update your page content document.write is pretty much useless.Technically
document.write
will only update HTML pages not XHTML/XML. IE seems to be pretty forgiving of this fact but other browsers will not be.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
8
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
2
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
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Off the top of my head:
document.write
needs to be used in the page load or body load. So if you want to use the script in any other time to update your page content document.write is pretty much useless.Technically
document.write
will only update HTML pages not XHTML/XML. IE seems to be pretty forgiving of this fact but other browsers will not be.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
8
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
2
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
add a comment |
Off the top of my head:
document.write
needs to be used in the page load or body load. So if you want to use the script in any other time to update your page content document.write is pretty much useless.Technically
document.write
will only update HTML pages not XHTML/XML. IE seems to be pretty forgiving of this fact but other browsers will not be.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
Off the top of my head:
document.write
needs to be used in the page load or body load. So if you want to use the script in any other time to update your page content document.write is pretty much useless.Technically
document.write
will only update HTML pages not XHTML/XML. IE seems to be pretty forgiving of this fact but other browsers will not be.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
edited Dec 4 '11 at 0:32


Ry-♦
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answered Apr 29 '09 at 15:31
brendanbrendan
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8
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
2
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
add a comment |
8
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
2
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
8
8
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
IE is forgiving because it doesn't support XHTML. If/when they do, document.write will probably stop working (only in XHTML of course).
– Matthew Crumley
Apr 29 '09 at 17:12
2
2
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
XHTML is irrelevant on the web. Even pages with a strict XHTML doctype are not actually treated as XML in that regard, browser developers don't trust page authors that much.
– RobG
Oct 27 '15 at 0:37
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Chrome may block document.write
that inserts a script in certain cases. When this happens, it will display this warning in the console:
A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, ..., is invoked via
document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has
poor network connectivity.
References:
This article on developers.google.com goes into more detail.- https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104
add a comment |
Chrome may block document.write
that inserts a script in certain cases. When this happens, it will display this warning in the console:
A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, ..., is invoked via
document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has
poor network connectivity.
References:
This article on developers.google.com goes into more detail.- https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104
add a comment |
Chrome may block document.write
that inserts a script in certain cases. When this happens, it will display this warning in the console:
A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, ..., is invoked via
document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has
poor network connectivity.
References:
This article on developers.google.com goes into more detail.- https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104
Chrome may block document.write
that inserts a script in certain cases. When this happens, it will display this warning in the console:
A Parser-blocking, cross-origin script, ..., is invoked via
document.write. This may be blocked by the browser if the device has
poor network connectivity.
References:
This article on developers.google.com goes into more detail.- https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104
edited Jul 12 '17 at 15:19
Flimm
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One can think of document.write() (and .innerHTML) as evaluating a source code string. This can be very handy for many applications. For example if you get HTML code as a string from some source, it is handy to just "evaluate" it.
In the context of Lisp, DOM manipulation would be like manipulating a list structure, e.g. create the list (orange) by doing:
(cons 'orange '())
And document.write() would be like evaluating a string, e.g. create a list by evaluating a source code string like this:
(eval-string "(cons 'orange '())")
Lisp also has the very useful ability to create code using list manipulation (like using the "DOM style" to create a JS parse tree). This means you can build up a list structure using the "DOM style", rather than the "string style", and then run that code, e.g. like this:
(eval '(cons 'orange '()))
If you implement coding tools, like simple live editors, it is very handy to have the ability to quickly evaluate a string, for example using document.write() or .innerHTML. Lisp is ideal in this sense, but you can do very cool stuff also in JS, and many people are doing that, like http://jsbin.com/
add a comment |
One can think of document.write() (and .innerHTML) as evaluating a source code string. This can be very handy for many applications. For example if you get HTML code as a string from some source, it is handy to just "evaluate" it.
In the context of Lisp, DOM manipulation would be like manipulating a list structure, e.g. create the list (orange) by doing:
(cons 'orange '())
And document.write() would be like evaluating a string, e.g. create a list by evaluating a source code string like this:
(eval-string "(cons 'orange '())")
Lisp also has the very useful ability to create code using list manipulation (like using the "DOM style" to create a JS parse tree). This means you can build up a list structure using the "DOM style", rather than the "string style", and then run that code, e.g. like this:
(eval '(cons 'orange '()))
If you implement coding tools, like simple live editors, it is very handy to have the ability to quickly evaluate a string, for example using document.write() or .innerHTML. Lisp is ideal in this sense, but you can do very cool stuff also in JS, and many people are doing that, like http://jsbin.com/
add a comment |
One can think of document.write() (and .innerHTML) as evaluating a source code string. This can be very handy for many applications. For example if you get HTML code as a string from some source, it is handy to just "evaluate" it.
In the context of Lisp, DOM manipulation would be like manipulating a list structure, e.g. create the list (orange) by doing:
(cons 'orange '())
And document.write() would be like evaluating a string, e.g. create a list by evaluating a source code string like this:
(eval-string "(cons 'orange '())")
Lisp also has the very useful ability to create code using list manipulation (like using the "DOM style" to create a JS parse tree). This means you can build up a list structure using the "DOM style", rather than the "string style", and then run that code, e.g. like this:
(eval '(cons 'orange '()))
If you implement coding tools, like simple live editors, it is very handy to have the ability to quickly evaluate a string, for example using document.write() or .innerHTML. Lisp is ideal in this sense, but you can do very cool stuff also in JS, and many people are doing that, like http://jsbin.com/
One can think of document.write() (and .innerHTML) as evaluating a source code string. This can be very handy for many applications. For example if you get HTML code as a string from some source, it is handy to just "evaluate" it.
In the context of Lisp, DOM manipulation would be like manipulating a list structure, e.g. create the list (orange) by doing:
(cons 'orange '())
And document.write() would be like evaluating a string, e.g. create a list by evaluating a source code string like this:
(eval-string "(cons 'orange '())")
Lisp also has the very useful ability to create code using list manipulation (like using the "DOM style" to create a JS parse tree). This means you can build up a list structure using the "DOM style", rather than the "string style", and then run that code, e.g. like this:
(eval '(cons 'orange '()))
If you implement coding tools, like simple live editors, it is very handy to have the ability to quickly evaluate a string, for example using document.write() or .innerHTML. Lisp is ideal in this sense, but you can do very cool stuff also in JS, and many people are doing that, like http://jsbin.com/
answered Feb 12 '13 at 17:48
Mikael KindborgMikael Kindborg
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- A simple reason why
document.write
is a bad practice is that you cannot come up with a scenario where you cannot find a better alternative. - Another reason is that you are dealing with strings instead of objects (it is very primitive).
- It does only append to documents.
- It has nothing of the beauty of for instance the MVC (Model-View-Controller) pattern.
- It is a lot more powerful to present dynamic content with ajax+jQuery or angularJS.
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times withoutdocument.write
.
– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
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- A simple reason why
document.write
is a bad practice is that you cannot come up with a scenario where you cannot find a better alternative. - Another reason is that you are dealing with strings instead of objects (it is very primitive).
- It does only append to documents.
- It has nothing of the beauty of for instance the MVC (Model-View-Controller) pattern.
- It is a lot more powerful to present dynamic content with ajax+jQuery or angularJS.
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times withoutdocument.write
.
– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
add a comment |
- A simple reason why
document.write
is a bad practice is that you cannot come up with a scenario where you cannot find a better alternative. - Another reason is that you are dealing with strings instead of objects (it is very primitive).
- It does only append to documents.
- It has nothing of the beauty of for instance the MVC (Model-View-Controller) pattern.
- It is a lot more powerful to present dynamic content with ajax+jQuery or angularJS.
- A simple reason why
document.write
is a bad practice is that you cannot come up with a scenario where you cannot find a better alternative. - Another reason is that you are dealing with strings instead of objects (it is very primitive).
- It does only append to documents.
- It has nothing of the beauty of for instance the MVC (Model-View-Controller) pattern.
- It is a lot more powerful to present dynamic content with ajax+jQuery or angularJS.
answered Sep 9 '16 at 19:37
Anders LindénAnders Lindén
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3,53033069
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times withoutdocument.write
.
– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
add a comment |
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times withoutdocument.write
.
– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times without
document.write
.– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
As for as your first bullet goes, how are you going to solve what @sunwukung describes in his answer above? I agree you could solve it with DOM manipulations, but as DOM manipulations go, it is hard to avoid FUOC at times without
document.write
.– bert bruynooghe
May 19 '17 at 16:29
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
Is FUOC a problem anymore?
– Anders Lindén
Aug 18 '18 at 7:56
add a comment |
The disadvantages of document.write mainly depends on these 3 factors:
a) Implementation
The document.write() is mostly used to write content to the screen as soon as that content is needed. This means it happens anywhere, either in a JavaScript file or inside a script tag within an HTML file. With the script tag being placed anywhere within such an HTML file, it is a bad idea to have document.write() statements inside script blocks that are intertwined with HTML inside a web page.
b) Rendering
Well designed code in general will take any dynamically generated content, store it in memory, keep manipulating it as it passes through the code before it finally gets spit out to the screen. So to reiterate the last point in the preceding section, rendering content in-place may render faster than other content that may be relied upon, but it may not be available to the other code that in turn requires the content to be rendered for processing. To solve this dilemma we need to get rid of the document.write() and implement it the right way.
c) Impossible Manipulation
Once it's written it's done and over with. We cannot go back to manipulate it without tapping into the DOM.
add a comment |
The disadvantages of document.write mainly depends on these 3 factors:
a) Implementation
The document.write() is mostly used to write content to the screen as soon as that content is needed. This means it happens anywhere, either in a JavaScript file or inside a script tag within an HTML file. With the script tag being placed anywhere within such an HTML file, it is a bad idea to have document.write() statements inside script blocks that are intertwined with HTML inside a web page.
b) Rendering
Well designed code in general will take any dynamically generated content, store it in memory, keep manipulating it as it passes through the code before it finally gets spit out to the screen. So to reiterate the last point in the preceding section, rendering content in-place may render faster than other content that may be relied upon, but it may not be available to the other code that in turn requires the content to be rendered for processing. To solve this dilemma we need to get rid of the document.write() and implement it the right way.
c) Impossible Manipulation
Once it's written it's done and over with. We cannot go back to manipulate it without tapping into the DOM.
add a comment |
The disadvantages of document.write mainly depends on these 3 factors:
a) Implementation
The document.write() is mostly used to write content to the screen as soon as that content is needed. This means it happens anywhere, either in a JavaScript file or inside a script tag within an HTML file. With the script tag being placed anywhere within such an HTML file, it is a bad idea to have document.write() statements inside script blocks that are intertwined with HTML inside a web page.
b) Rendering
Well designed code in general will take any dynamically generated content, store it in memory, keep manipulating it as it passes through the code before it finally gets spit out to the screen. So to reiterate the last point in the preceding section, rendering content in-place may render faster than other content that may be relied upon, but it may not be available to the other code that in turn requires the content to be rendered for processing. To solve this dilemma we need to get rid of the document.write() and implement it the right way.
c) Impossible Manipulation
Once it's written it's done and over with. We cannot go back to manipulate it without tapping into the DOM.
The disadvantages of document.write mainly depends on these 3 factors:
a) Implementation
The document.write() is mostly used to write content to the screen as soon as that content is needed. This means it happens anywhere, either in a JavaScript file or inside a script tag within an HTML file. With the script tag being placed anywhere within such an HTML file, it is a bad idea to have document.write() statements inside script blocks that are intertwined with HTML inside a web page.
b) Rendering
Well designed code in general will take any dynamically generated content, store it in memory, keep manipulating it as it passes through the code before it finally gets spit out to the screen. So to reiterate the last point in the preceding section, rendering content in-place may render faster than other content that may be relied upon, but it may not be available to the other code that in turn requires the content to be rendered for processing. To solve this dilemma we need to get rid of the document.write() and implement it the right way.
c) Impossible Manipulation
Once it's written it's done and over with. We cannot go back to manipulate it without tapping into the DOM.
answered Dec 9 '16 at 5:13
user3167857user3167857
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Based on analysis done by Google-Chrome Dev Tools' Lighthouse Audit
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Based on analysis done by Google-Chrome Dev Tools' Lighthouse Audit
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Based on analysis done by Google-Chrome Dev Tools' Lighthouse Audit
Based on analysis done by Google-Chrome Dev Tools' Lighthouse Audit
answered Feb 22 '18 at 8:58


Sudip BhandariSudip Bhandari
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Browser Violation
.write
is considered a browser violation as it halts the parser from rendering the page. The parser receives the message that the document is being modified; hence, it gets blocked until JS has completed its process. Only at this time will the parser resume.
Performance
The biggest consequence of employing such a method is lowered performance. The browser will take longer to load page content. The adverse reaction on load time depends on what is being written to the document. You won't see much of a difference if you are adding a <p>
tag to the DOM as opposed to passing an array of 50-some references to JavaScript libraries (something which I have seen in working code and resulted in an 11 second delay - of course, this also depends on your hardware).
All in all, it's best to steer clear of this method if you can help it.
For more info see Intervening against document.write()
add a comment |
Browser Violation
.write
is considered a browser violation as it halts the parser from rendering the page. The parser receives the message that the document is being modified; hence, it gets blocked until JS has completed its process. Only at this time will the parser resume.
Performance
The biggest consequence of employing such a method is lowered performance. The browser will take longer to load page content. The adverse reaction on load time depends on what is being written to the document. You won't see much of a difference if you are adding a <p>
tag to the DOM as opposed to passing an array of 50-some references to JavaScript libraries (something which I have seen in working code and resulted in an 11 second delay - of course, this also depends on your hardware).
All in all, it's best to steer clear of this method if you can help it.
For more info see Intervening against document.write()
add a comment |
Browser Violation
.write
is considered a browser violation as it halts the parser from rendering the page. The parser receives the message that the document is being modified; hence, it gets blocked until JS has completed its process. Only at this time will the parser resume.
Performance
The biggest consequence of employing such a method is lowered performance. The browser will take longer to load page content. The adverse reaction on load time depends on what is being written to the document. You won't see much of a difference if you are adding a <p>
tag to the DOM as opposed to passing an array of 50-some references to JavaScript libraries (something which I have seen in working code and resulted in an 11 second delay - of course, this also depends on your hardware).
All in all, it's best to steer clear of this method if you can help it.
For more info see Intervening against document.write()
Browser Violation
.write
is considered a browser violation as it halts the parser from rendering the page. The parser receives the message that the document is being modified; hence, it gets blocked until JS has completed its process. Only at this time will the parser resume.
Performance
The biggest consequence of employing such a method is lowered performance. The browser will take longer to load page content. The adverse reaction on load time depends on what is being written to the document. You won't see much of a difference if you are adding a <p>
tag to the DOM as opposed to passing an array of 50-some references to JavaScript libraries (something which I have seen in working code and resulted in an 11 second delay - of course, this also depends on your hardware).
All in all, it's best to steer clear of this method if you can help it.
For more info see Intervening against document.write()
edited Nov 20 '18 at 1:50
answered Nov 20 '18 at 1:19


Arielle AdamsArielle Adams
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I think the biggest problem is that any elements written via document.write are added to the end of the page's elements. That's rarely the desired effect with modern page layouts and AJAX. (you have to keep in mind that the elements in the DOM are temporal, and when the script runs may affect its behavior).
It's much better to set a placeholder element on the page, and then manipulate it's innerHTML.
14
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
1
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
2
@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
add a comment |
I think the biggest problem is that any elements written via document.write are added to the end of the page's elements. That's rarely the desired effect with modern page layouts and AJAX. (you have to keep in mind that the elements in the DOM are temporal, and when the script runs may affect its behavior).
It's much better to set a placeholder element on the page, and then manipulate it's innerHTML.
14
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
1
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
2
@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
add a comment |
I think the biggest problem is that any elements written via document.write are added to the end of the page's elements. That's rarely the desired effect with modern page layouts and AJAX. (you have to keep in mind that the elements in the DOM are temporal, and when the script runs may affect its behavior).
It's much better to set a placeholder element on the page, and then manipulate it's innerHTML.
I think the biggest problem is that any elements written via document.write are added to the end of the page's elements. That's rarely the desired effect with modern page layouts and AJAX. (you have to keep in mind that the elements in the DOM are temporal, and when the script runs may affect its behavior).
It's much better to set a placeholder element on the page, and then manipulate it's innerHTML.
answered Apr 29 '09 at 15:31
BnWastelandBnWasteland
1,40811514
1,40811514
14
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
1
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
2
@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
add a comment |
14
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
1
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
2
@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
14
14
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
This is not true. document.write does not add the content to the end of the page like it's an append. They are written in place.
– Peter Bailey
Apr 29 '09 at 15:35
1
1
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
@Peter Bailey, I know this is an old thread, but really this shouldn't be downvoted. whether it appends or not depends on whether document.write() runs inline while the page is loading. If it is called from a function after the page loads then the first document.write() will replace the entire body and subsequent calls will append to it.
– Octopus
Dec 17 '14 at 5:53
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@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
@Octopus Yes, but that's circumstantial. It appends in that scenario only because there's a fresh document. It's still not accurate to say "document.write() appends." Yes, it's an old answer and an old downvote, but I still stand by it.
– Peter Bailey
Dec 18 '14 at 14:03
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
Its fine. I spoke imprecisely. I would've edited it long ago, but there is a much better answer above. I would point out though that "written in place" is equally imprecise.
– BnWasteland
Dec 18 '14 at 20:40
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