Does convergence by the ratio test for sequences implies that the sequence is monotonic?












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I wonder, Let's say $(a_n)_n$ is a sequence.



If $ frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L $ and $ L<1$. Then $ a_n to 0 $.



But, does it mean that $a_n$ is monotonically decreasing? (For every $n$, $a_n > a_{n+1} $ ) ?



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    Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
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    Jan 13 at 9:33












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    First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
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    Jan 13 at 12:22
















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$begingroup$


I wonder, Let's say $(a_n)_n$ is a sequence.



If $ frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L $ and $ L<1$. Then $ a_n to 0 $.



But, does it mean that $a_n$ is monotonically decreasing? (For every $n$, $a_n > a_{n+1} $ ) ?



Thank you.










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    $begingroup$
    Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
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    – Robert Z
    Jan 13 at 9:33












  • $begingroup$
    First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
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    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 13 at 12:22














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$begingroup$


I wonder, Let's say $(a_n)_n$ is a sequence.



If $ frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L $ and $ L<1$. Then $ a_n to 0 $.



But, does it mean that $a_n$ is monotonically decreasing? (For every $n$, $a_n > a_{n+1} $ ) ?



Thank you.










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I wonder, Let's say $(a_n)_n$ is a sequence.



If $ frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L $ and $ L<1$. Then $ a_n to 0 $.



But, does it mean that $a_n$ is monotonically decreasing? (For every $n$, $a_n > a_{n+1} $ ) ?



Thank you.







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    $begingroup$
    Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Z
    Jan 13 at 9:33












  • $begingroup$
    First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 13 at 12:22














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Z
    Jan 13 at 9:33












  • $begingroup$
    First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 13 at 12:22








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$begingroup$
Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Jan 13 at 9:33






$begingroup$
Yes, if $a_n>0$ then $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} to L$ with $L<1$ implies that eventually the sequence is monotonically decreasing.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Jan 13 at 9:33














$begingroup$
First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 13 at 12:22




$begingroup$
First comment: you seem to consider only positive sequences but you didn't state that $a_n>0$. Secondly, $a_n >a_{n+1}$ for every $n$ is obviously false. You can change the values of $a_1$ and $a_2$ any way you like without changing the value of $lim frac {a_{n+1}} {a_n}$.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 13 at 12:22










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