Clarification on the method used to prove the existence of $sqrt{2}$ in $mathbb{R}$












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Let $A={xin mathbb{R}:x^2leq{2}}$ with $sup A=alpha$.



When proving that the $sqrt{2}$ exists in $mathbb{R}$ using the method of contradiction, do we show that a contradiction arises for the case $alpha^2 lt{2}$ by negating condition $1$ of the definition for least upper bound, and a contradiction for the case $alpha^2 gt{2}$ by negating condition $2$? leading to the conclusion that $alpha^2={2}$ is the only possibility?



Definition:
Let $Asubseteqmathbb{R}$ and let $alphain mathbb{R}$. Define $alpha$ to be the least upper bound for $A$ if and only if the following two conditions are satisfied.





  1. $alpha$ is an upper bound for $A$; and

  2. for all upper bounds $alpha'$ for $A$, we have that $alpha leq{alpha'}$










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    What are condition 1 and condition 2?
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    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:10






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    Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
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    Jan 23 at 14:39






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    Then, yes, you are right.
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    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:41






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    Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
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    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:42
















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$begingroup$


Let $A={xin mathbb{R}:x^2leq{2}}$ with $sup A=alpha$.



When proving that the $sqrt{2}$ exists in $mathbb{R}$ using the method of contradiction, do we show that a contradiction arises for the case $alpha^2 lt{2}$ by negating condition $1$ of the definition for least upper bound, and a contradiction for the case $alpha^2 gt{2}$ by negating condition $2$? leading to the conclusion that $alpha^2={2}$ is the only possibility?



Definition:
Let $Asubseteqmathbb{R}$ and let $alphain mathbb{R}$. Define $alpha$ to be the least upper bound for $A$ if and only if the following two conditions are satisfied.





  1. $alpha$ is an upper bound for $A$; and

  2. for all upper bounds $alpha'$ for $A$, we have that $alpha leq{alpha'}$










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    What are condition 1 and condition 2?
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:39






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Then, yes, you are right.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:42














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$begingroup$


Let $A={xin mathbb{R}:x^2leq{2}}$ with $sup A=alpha$.



When proving that the $sqrt{2}$ exists in $mathbb{R}$ using the method of contradiction, do we show that a contradiction arises for the case $alpha^2 lt{2}$ by negating condition $1$ of the definition for least upper bound, and a contradiction for the case $alpha^2 gt{2}$ by negating condition $2$? leading to the conclusion that $alpha^2={2}$ is the only possibility?



Definition:
Let $Asubseteqmathbb{R}$ and let $alphain mathbb{R}$. Define $alpha$ to be the least upper bound for $A$ if and only if the following two conditions are satisfied.





  1. $alpha$ is an upper bound for $A$; and

  2. for all upper bounds $alpha'$ for $A$, we have that $alpha leq{alpha'}$










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




Let $A={xin mathbb{R}:x^2leq{2}}$ with $sup A=alpha$.



When proving that the $sqrt{2}$ exists in $mathbb{R}$ using the method of contradiction, do we show that a contradiction arises for the case $alpha^2 lt{2}$ by negating condition $1$ of the definition for least upper bound, and a contradiction for the case $alpha^2 gt{2}$ by negating condition $2$? leading to the conclusion that $alpha^2={2}$ is the only possibility?



Definition:
Let $Asubseteqmathbb{R}$ and let $alphain mathbb{R}$. Define $alpha$ to be the least upper bound for $A$ if and only if the following two conditions are satisfied.





  1. $alpha$ is an upper bound for $A$; and

  2. for all upper bounds $alpha'$ for $A$, we have that $alpha leq{alpha'}$







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  • $begingroup$
    What are condition 1 and condition 2?
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:39






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Then, yes, you are right.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:42


















  • $begingroup$
    What are condition 1 and condition 2?
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:10






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:39






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Then, yes, you are right.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 23 at 14:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
    $endgroup$
    – user503154
    Jan 23 at 14:42
















$begingroup$
What are condition 1 and condition 2?
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 23 at 14:10




$begingroup$
What are condition 1 and condition 2?
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 23 at 14:10




1




1




$begingroup$
Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
$endgroup$
– user503154
Jan 23 at 14:39




$begingroup$
Apologies, I have edited to include the definition containing the conditions.
$endgroup$
– user503154
Jan 23 at 14:39




1




1




$begingroup$
Then, yes, you are right.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 23 at 14:41




$begingroup$
Then, yes, you are right.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 23 at 14:41




1




1




$begingroup$
Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
$endgroup$
– user503154
Jan 23 at 14:42




$begingroup$
Thank you @JoséCarlosSantos
$endgroup$
– user503154
Jan 23 at 14:42










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