Garden Problem! I’m stumped… 5th grade math problem












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Okay so I’ve been trying to solve this problem but I need a fresh mind. I feel totally embarrassed because this is a 5th grade problem, but I suppose I’m totally missing the point of my sons homework!



The problem -



“Garden Problem”



A family decides to create a vegetable patch on a square area (ground)



The parents use 1/4 of the ground. This is also in the shape of the square that takes up in northeast section.



The 3/4 that remains are divided identically between the four children: same area/same shape



Drawl the shape of the vegetable patch showing how you divided it correctly.”””””



Thanks so much in advance !










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Okay so I’ve been trying to solve this problem but I need a fresh mind. I feel totally embarrassed because this is a 5th grade problem, but I suppose I’m totally missing the point of my sons homework!



The problem -



“Garden Problem”



A family decides to create a vegetable patch on a square area (ground)



The parents use 1/4 of the ground. This is also in the shape of the square that takes up in northeast section.



The 3/4 that remains are divided identically between the four children: same area/same shape



Drawl the shape of the vegetable patch showing how you divided it correctly.”””””



Thanks so much in advance !










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Okay so I’ve been trying to solve this problem but I need a fresh mind. I feel totally embarrassed because this is a 5th grade problem, but I suppose I’m totally missing the point of my sons homework!



The problem -



“Garden Problem”



A family decides to create a vegetable patch on a square area (ground)



The parents use 1/4 of the ground. This is also in the shape of the square that takes up in northeast section.



The 3/4 that remains are divided identically between the four children: same area/same shape



Drawl the shape of the vegetable patch showing how you divided it correctly.”””””



Thanks so much in advance !










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Okay so I’ve been trying to solve this problem but I need a fresh mind. I feel totally embarrassed because this is a 5th grade problem, but I suppose I’m totally missing the point of my sons homework!



The problem -



“Garden Problem”



A family decides to create a vegetable patch on a square area (ground)



The parents use 1/4 of the ground. This is also in the shape of the square that takes up in northeast section.



The 3/4 that remains are divided identically between the four children: same area/same shape



Drawl the shape of the vegetable patch showing how you divided it correctly.”””””



Thanks so much in advance !







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  • Why did anyone downvote this? It's a great question.
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Why did anyone downvote this? It's a great question.
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Why did anyone downvote this? It's a great question.
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Here are the pieces: P for parents, 1-4 for children:



11PP
12PP
3224
3344





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    Each child gets 3 squares.



    $leftarrow N -$enter image description here



    You want them to be contiguous and congruent. By trial and error, there are not that many ways to do it.



    $leftarrow N -$enter image description here






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    • On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
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    Divide the square area into a 4x4 grid of 16 equal squares, labelled (1,1) to(4,4) with the north-most row, from W to E being (1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4), the row just below it being (2,1),(2,2)... etc. The garden is (1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4).



    You need to divide the other 12 squares into 4 congruent pieces. Consider the square (4,1) diagonally opposite to the garden. By symmetry we may suppose it is part of the same piece as (3,1). Now:



    (I). If (3,2) is part of that piece then the remaining 9 squares are in two disconnected parts: 5 squares (1,1)(1,2),(2,1) (2,2), (3,1) in one part and the last 4 squares in the other part, which means those 9 squares can't be divided into 3 connected pieces of 3 squares each.



    (II). If (2,1) is part of that piece then there must be another connected piece made up of (1,1),(1,2), (2,2), which is a different shape.



    Therefore (4,1),(3,1),(4,2) must be one piece . The pieces that include the other corner squares (1,1) and (4,4), being also of the same shape, must be (1,1),(1,2), (2,1) and (4,4),(4,3)(3,4). And what's left is the last piece (2,2),(3,2),(3,3).






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      Here are the pieces: P for parents, 1-4 for children:



      11PP
      12PP
      3224
      3344





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        Here are the pieces: P for parents, 1-4 for children:



        11PP
        12PP
        3224
        3344





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          Here are the pieces: P for parents, 1-4 for children:



          11PP
          12PP
          3224
          3344





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          Here are the pieces: P for parents, 1-4 for children:



          11PP
          12PP
          3224
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              Each child gets 3 squares.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here



              You want them to be contiguous and congruent. By trial and error, there are not that many ways to do it.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here






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              • On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
                – DanielWainfleet
                Nov 20 '18 at 19:55
















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              Each child gets 3 squares.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here



              You want them to be contiguous and congruent. By trial and error, there are not that many ways to do it.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here






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              • On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
                – DanielWainfleet
                Nov 20 '18 at 19:55














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              Each child gets 3 squares.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here



              You want them to be contiguous and congruent. By trial and error, there are not that many ways to do it.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here






              share|cite|improve this answer














              Each child gets 3 squares.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here



              You want them to be contiguous and congruent. By trial and error, there are not that many ways to do it.



              $leftarrow N -$enter image description here







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              • On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
                – DanielWainfleet
                Nov 20 '18 at 19:55


















              • On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
                – DanielWainfleet
                Nov 20 '18 at 19:55
















              On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
              – DanielWainfleet
              Nov 20 '18 at 19:55




              On your map the garden in the NE is at the top right, which means N is left and E is up.... :).... Medieval European cartographers sometimes put N on the right , with W at the top.
              – DanielWainfleet
              Nov 20 '18 at 19:55











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              Divide the square area into a 4x4 grid of 16 equal squares, labelled (1,1) to(4,4) with the north-most row, from W to E being (1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4), the row just below it being (2,1),(2,2)... etc. The garden is (1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4).



              You need to divide the other 12 squares into 4 congruent pieces. Consider the square (4,1) diagonally opposite to the garden. By symmetry we may suppose it is part of the same piece as (3,1). Now:



              (I). If (3,2) is part of that piece then the remaining 9 squares are in two disconnected parts: 5 squares (1,1)(1,2),(2,1) (2,2), (3,1) in one part and the last 4 squares in the other part, which means those 9 squares can't be divided into 3 connected pieces of 3 squares each.



              (II). If (2,1) is part of that piece then there must be another connected piece made up of (1,1),(1,2), (2,2), which is a different shape.



              Therefore (4,1),(3,1),(4,2) must be one piece . The pieces that include the other corner squares (1,1) and (4,4), being also of the same shape, must be (1,1),(1,2), (2,1) and (4,4),(4,3)(3,4). And what's left is the last piece (2,2),(3,2),(3,3).






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                Divide the square area into a 4x4 grid of 16 equal squares, labelled (1,1) to(4,4) with the north-most row, from W to E being (1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4), the row just below it being (2,1),(2,2)... etc. The garden is (1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4).



                You need to divide the other 12 squares into 4 congruent pieces. Consider the square (4,1) diagonally opposite to the garden. By symmetry we may suppose it is part of the same piece as (3,1). Now:



                (I). If (3,2) is part of that piece then the remaining 9 squares are in two disconnected parts: 5 squares (1,1)(1,2),(2,1) (2,2), (3,1) in one part and the last 4 squares in the other part, which means those 9 squares can't be divided into 3 connected pieces of 3 squares each.



                (II). If (2,1) is part of that piece then there must be another connected piece made up of (1,1),(1,2), (2,2), which is a different shape.



                Therefore (4,1),(3,1),(4,2) must be one piece . The pieces that include the other corner squares (1,1) and (4,4), being also of the same shape, must be (1,1),(1,2), (2,1) and (4,4),(4,3)(3,4). And what's left is the last piece (2,2),(3,2),(3,3).






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                  Divide the square area into a 4x4 grid of 16 equal squares, labelled (1,1) to(4,4) with the north-most row, from W to E being (1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4), the row just below it being (2,1),(2,2)... etc. The garden is (1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4).



                  You need to divide the other 12 squares into 4 congruent pieces. Consider the square (4,1) diagonally opposite to the garden. By symmetry we may suppose it is part of the same piece as (3,1). Now:



                  (I). If (3,2) is part of that piece then the remaining 9 squares are in two disconnected parts: 5 squares (1,1)(1,2),(2,1) (2,2), (3,1) in one part and the last 4 squares in the other part, which means those 9 squares can't be divided into 3 connected pieces of 3 squares each.



                  (II). If (2,1) is part of that piece then there must be another connected piece made up of (1,1),(1,2), (2,2), which is a different shape.



                  Therefore (4,1),(3,1),(4,2) must be one piece . The pieces that include the other corner squares (1,1) and (4,4), being also of the same shape, must be (1,1),(1,2), (2,1) and (4,4),(4,3)(3,4). And what's left is the last piece (2,2),(3,2),(3,3).






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                  Divide the square area into a 4x4 grid of 16 equal squares, labelled (1,1) to(4,4) with the north-most row, from W to E being (1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4), the row just below it being (2,1),(2,2)... etc. The garden is (1,3),(1,4),(2,3),(2,4).



                  You need to divide the other 12 squares into 4 congruent pieces. Consider the square (4,1) diagonally opposite to the garden. By symmetry we may suppose it is part of the same piece as (3,1). Now:



                  (I). If (3,2) is part of that piece then the remaining 9 squares are in two disconnected parts: 5 squares (1,1)(1,2),(2,1) (2,2), (3,1) in one part and the last 4 squares in the other part, which means those 9 squares can't be divided into 3 connected pieces of 3 squares each.



                  (II). If (2,1) is part of that piece then there must be another connected piece made up of (1,1),(1,2), (2,2), which is a different shape.



                  Therefore (4,1),(3,1),(4,2) must be one piece . The pieces that include the other corner squares (1,1) and (4,4), being also of the same shape, must be (1,1),(1,2), (2,1) and (4,4),(4,3)(3,4). And what's left is the last piece (2,2),(3,2),(3,3).







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