Proving Cauchy random variables












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Trying to prove that if a random variable $T$ has Cauchy distribution
with probability density function: $$f(x)= frac{1}{pi(1+x^2)}$$
then $X = frac{1}{T}$
and $Y = frac{2T}{1-T^2}$ are also Cauchy random variables.



Now, I realize that this specific form of PDF is called a Standard Cauchy distribution and if I am correct then $T$ is of the form:



$$ frac{1}{e^{|t|}} $$



My main problem here is that I don't understand if i should use the characteristic function of $T$ to prove that $X$ and $Y$ are Cauchy or use it's PDF.



I apologize if this question is too simple, just this problem got me confused with the Cauchy distribution and I want to get the right picture of how to approach this type of questions, any hint greatly appreciated.










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    The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
    – Federico
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:02






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    Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
    – zhoraster
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:05






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    The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
    – StubbornAtom
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:48
















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Trying to prove that if a random variable $T$ has Cauchy distribution
with probability density function: $$f(x)= frac{1}{pi(1+x^2)}$$
then $X = frac{1}{T}$
and $Y = frac{2T}{1-T^2}$ are also Cauchy random variables.



Now, I realize that this specific form of PDF is called a Standard Cauchy distribution and if I am correct then $T$ is of the form:



$$ frac{1}{e^{|t|}} $$



My main problem here is that I don't understand if i should use the characteristic function of $T$ to prove that $X$ and $Y$ are Cauchy or use it's PDF.



I apologize if this question is too simple, just this problem got me confused with the Cauchy distribution and I want to get the right picture of how to approach this type of questions, any hint greatly appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question


















  • 2




    The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
    – Federico
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:02






  • 2




    Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
    – zhoraster
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:05






  • 1




    The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
    – StubbornAtom
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:48














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Trying to prove that if a random variable $T$ has Cauchy distribution
with probability density function: $$f(x)= frac{1}{pi(1+x^2)}$$
then $X = frac{1}{T}$
and $Y = frac{2T}{1-T^2}$ are also Cauchy random variables.



Now, I realize that this specific form of PDF is called a Standard Cauchy distribution and if I am correct then $T$ is of the form:



$$ frac{1}{e^{|t|}} $$



My main problem here is that I don't understand if i should use the characteristic function of $T$ to prove that $X$ and $Y$ are Cauchy or use it's PDF.



I apologize if this question is too simple, just this problem got me confused with the Cauchy distribution and I want to get the right picture of how to approach this type of questions, any hint greatly appreciated.










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Trying to prove that if a random variable $T$ has Cauchy distribution
with probability density function: $$f(x)= frac{1}{pi(1+x^2)}$$
then $X = frac{1}{T}$
and $Y = frac{2T}{1-T^2}$ are also Cauchy random variables.



Now, I realize that this specific form of PDF is called a Standard Cauchy distribution and if I am correct then $T$ is of the form:



$$ frac{1}{e^{|t|}} $$



My main problem here is that I don't understand if i should use the characteristic function of $T$ to prove that $X$ and $Y$ are Cauchy or use it's PDF.



I apologize if this question is too simple, just this problem got me confused with the Cauchy distribution and I want to get the right picture of how to approach this type of questions, any hint greatly appreciated.







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    The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
    – Federico
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:02






  • 2




    Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
    – zhoraster
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:05






  • 1




    The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
    – StubbornAtom
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:48














  • 2




    The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
    – Federico
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:02






  • 2




    Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
    – zhoraster
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:05






  • 1




    The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
    – StubbornAtom
    Nov 20 '18 at 19:48








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The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
– Federico
Nov 20 '18 at 19:02




The change of variables formula might help computing the PDF of $f(X)$, given the PDF of $X$...
– Federico
Nov 20 '18 at 19:02




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2




Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
– zhoraster
Nov 20 '18 at 19:05




Easier than Federico's suggestion: Cauchy distribution = tan(random angle). Then consider some transformations of the random angle (multiply by something, subtract from something...)
– zhoraster
Nov 20 '18 at 19:05




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The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
– StubbornAtom
Nov 20 '18 at 19:48




The first question is answered here. The second one is answered here, elaborating the argument of the answer below and the comment above.
– StubbornAtom
Nov 20 '18 at 19:48










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One way of obtaining a Cauchy random variable is as $T=tan U$
where $U$ is a uniform random variable on the interval $(-pi/2,pi/2)$.
Then $X=cot U=tan(pi/2-U)$ and $Y=tan 2U$. Now $pi/2-U$ is uniform
on $(0,pi)$. Thinking of this modulo $pi$, it's essentially the same as
the distribution of $U$. Likewise $2U$ is uniform on $(-pi,pi)$.
Again modulo $pi$, that's essentially the same distribution as $U$.






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    One way of obtaining a Cauchy random variable is as $T=tan U$
    where $U$ is a uniform random variable on the interval $(-pi/2,pi/2)$.
    Then $X=cot U=tan(pi/2-U)$ and $Y=tan 2U$. Now $pi/2-U$ is uniform
    on $(0,pi)$. Thinking of this modulo $pi$, it's essentially the same as
    the distribution of $U$. Likewise $2U$ is uniform on $(-pi,pi)$.
    Again modulo $pi$, that's essentially the same distribution as $U$.






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      One way of obtaining a Cauchy random variable is as $T=tan U$
      where $U$ is a uniform random variable on the interval $(-pi/2,pi/2)$.
      Then $X=cot U=tan(pi/2-U)$ and $Y=tan 2U$. Now $pi/2-U$ is uniform
      on $(0,pi)$. Thinking of this modulo $pi$, it's essentially the same as
      the distribution of $U$. Likewise $2U$ is uniform on $(-pi,pi)$.
      Again modulo $pi$, that's essentially the same distribution as $U$.






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        One way of obtaining a Cauchy random variable is as $T=tan U$
        where $U$ is a uniform random variable on the interval $(-pi/2,pi/2)$.
        Then $X=cot U=tan(pi/2-U)$ and $Y=tan 2U$. Now $pi/2-U$ is uniform
        on $(0,pi)$. Thinking of this modulo $pi$, it's essentially the same as
        the distribution of $U$. Likewise $2U$ is uniform on $(-pi,pi)$.
        Again modulo $pi$, that's essentially the same distribution as $U$.






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        One way of obtaining a Cauchy random variable is as $T=tan U$
        where $U$ is a uniform random variable on the interval $(-pi/2,pi/2)$.
        Then $X=cot U=tan(pi/2-U)$ and $Y=tan 2U$. Now $pi/2-U$ is uniform
        on $(0,pi)$. Thinking of this modulo $pi$, it's essentially the same as
        the distribution of $U$. Likewise $2U$ is uniform on $(-pi,pi)$.
        Again modulo $pi$, that's essentially the same distribution as $U$.







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