Simplify $frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$ into $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$












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I am to simplify $$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$$



into $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$



I am able to get to $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$ but cannot arrive at the provided solution.



Here is my working:



$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$ = $frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{64y}sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}} * frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$



I cannot see how to arrive at $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$?



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    Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
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    In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
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    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:17










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    Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
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    – ncmathsadist
    Jan 9 at 1:18






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    $begingroup$
    Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
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    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:20






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    Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
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    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:22
















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$begingroup$


I am to simplify $$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$$



into $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$



I am able to get to $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$ but cannot arrive at the provided solution.



Here is my working:



$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$ = $frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{64y}sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}} * frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$



I cannot see how to arrive at $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$?



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  • $begingroup$
    Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:16










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    In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:17










  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
    $endgroup$
    – ncmathsadist
    Jan 9 at 1:18






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    $begingroup$
    Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:20






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:22














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$begingroup$


I am to simplify $$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$$



into $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$



I am able to get to $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$ but cannot arrive at the provided solution.



Here is my working:



$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$ = $frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{64y}sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}} * frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$



I cannot see how to arrive at $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$?



Screen shot of my online textbooks question and answer in case I've typed it incorrectly:
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I am to simplify $$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$$



into $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$



I am able to get to $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$ but cannot arrive at the provided solution.



Here is my working:



$frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128y}}$ = $frac{xsqrt{64y}+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{64y}sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}}{sqrt{2}} * frac{sqrt{2}}{sqrt{2}}$ = $frac{x+4sqrt{y}sqrt{2}}{2}$



I cannot see how to arrive at $frac{2sqrt{2x}+sqrt{2}}{4}$?



Screen shot of my online textbooks question and answer in case I've typed it incorrectly:
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  • $begingroup$
    Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:16










  • $begingroup$
    In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:17










  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
    $endgroup$
    – ncmathsadist
    Jan 9 at 1:18






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:20






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:22


















  • $begingroup$
    Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:16










  • $begingroup$
    In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:17










  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
    $endgroup$
    – ncmathsadist
    Jan 9 at 1:18






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:20






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:22
















$begingroup$
Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:16




$begingroup$
Are you sure you copied the original equation and the answer correctly? I cannot see how you would have only one $x$ in the original expression, raised to the first power, which would somehow end up under the radical, i.e. $x^{1/2}$, in the answer.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:16












$begingroup$
In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:17




$begingroup$
In any event your own attempt is wrong. You cannot cancel the $sqrt{64}$ like that because there wasn't a $sqrt{64}$ coefficient for the $y$ term.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:17












$begingroup$
Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
$endgroup$
– ncmathsadist
Jan 9 at 1:18




$begingroup$
Have you tried factoring the $sqrt{y}$ factor out?
$endgroup$
– ncmathsadist
Jan 9 at 1:18




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$begingroup$
Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:20




$begingroup$
Okay, on seeing the edit, small note: $sqrt{2} x$ means $sqrt{2} cdot x$, i.e. the $x$ isn't under the radical. I can see the confusion, I made the same mistake when I was younger. So before I even attempt to address the problem, I just wanted to note that. (If you want less ambiguity, $x sqrt 2$ is also an acceptable way to write it.)
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:20




1




1




$begingroup$
Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:22




$begingroup$
Yes, but the numerator is a sum. Split it up into its individual fractions, i.e. $$frac{a+b}{c} = frac a c + frac b c $$ and you can see immediately why it doesn't follow. You would have to have the $sqrt{64}$ in every term of the numerator and every term of the denominator for it to cancel.
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Jan 9 at 1:22










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$$frac{x sqrt{64y} + 4 sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128 y}}$$
Factor our common factor $sqrt{y}$ from numerator and denominator.
$$frac{sqrt{y}(x sqrt{64} + 4)}{sqrt{y}(sqrt{128})}$$
Notice $sqrt{64} = sqrt{8^2} = 8$ and $sqrt{128} = sqrt{64 * 2} = sqrt{8^2 * 2} = 8sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}}$$
Factor out $4$ from numerator and denominator and cancel.
$$frac{2x + 1}{2sqrt{2}}$$
Multiply numerator and denominator by $sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{2sqrt{2}x + sqrt{2}}{4}$$






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    It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
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    Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
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    Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
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    Jan 9 at 1:34






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    $frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
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$$frac{x sqrt{64y} + 4 sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128 y}}$$
Factor our common factor $sqrt{y}$ from numerator and denominator.
$$frac{sqrt{y}(x sqrt{64} + 4)}{sqrt{y}(sqrt{128})}$$
Notice $sqrt{64} = sqrt{8^2} = 8$ and $sqrt{128} = sqrt{64 * 2} = sqrt{8^2 * 2} = 8sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}}$$
Factor out $4$ from numerator and denominator and cancel.
$$frac{2x + 1}{2sqrt{2}}$$
Multiply numerator and denominator by $sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{2sqrt{2}x + sqrt{2}}{4}$$






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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:23










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    Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
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    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:27










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    Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
    $endgroup$
    – Doug Fir
    Jan 9 at 1:34






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    $begingroup$
    $frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
    $endgroup$
    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:35


















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$begingroup$

$$frac{x sqrt{64y} + 4 sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128 y}}$$
Factor our common factor $sqrt{y}$ from numerator and denominator.
$$frac{sqrt{y}(x sqrt{64} + 4)}{sqrt{y}(sqrt{128})}$$
Notice $sqrt{64} = sqrt{8^2} = 8$ and $sqrt{128} = sqrt{64 * 2} = sqrt{8^2 * 2} = 8sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}}$$
Factor out $4$ from numerator and denominator and cancel.
$$frac{2x + 1}{2sqrt{2}}$$
Multiply numerator and denominator by $sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{2sqrt{2}x + sqrt{2}}{4}$$






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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:23










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    Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
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    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:27










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    Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
    $endgroup$
    – Doug Fir
    Jan 9 at 1:34






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    $begingroup$
    $frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
    $endgroup$
    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:35
















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$$frac{x sqrt{64y} + 4 sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128 y}}$$
Factor our common factor $sqrt{y}$ from numerator and denominator.
$$frac{sqrt{y}(x sqrt{64} + 4)}{sqrt{y}(sqrt{128})}$$
Notice $sqrt{64} = sqrt{8^2} = 8$ and $sqrt{128} = sqrt{64 * 2} = sqrt{8^2 * 2} = 8sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}}$$
Factor out $4$ from numerator and denominator and cancel.
$$frac{2x + 1}{2sqrt{2}}$$
Multiply numerator and denominator by $sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{2sqrt{2}x + sqrt{2}}{4}$$






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$$frac{x sqrt{64y} + 4 sqrt{y}}{sqrt{128 y}}$$
Factor our common factor $sqrt{y}$ from numerator and denominator.
$$frac{sqrt{y}(x sqrt{64} + 4)}{sqrt{y}(sqrt{128})}$$
Notice $sqrt{64} = sqrt{8^2} = 8$ and $sqrt{128} = sqrt{64 * 2} = sqrt{8^2 * 2} = 8sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}}$$
Factor out $4$ from numerator and denominator and cancel.
$$frac{2x + 1}{2sqrt{2}}$$
Multiply numerator and denominator by $sqrt{2}$.
$$frac{2sqrt{2}x + sqrt{2}}{4}$$







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    $begingroup$
    It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:23










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    Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
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    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:27










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    Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
    $endgroup$
    – Doug Fir
    Jan 9 at 1:34






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
    $endgroup$
    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:35
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
    $endgroup$
    – Eevee Trainer
    Jan 9 at 1:23










  • $begingroup$
    Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
    $endgroup$
    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:27










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
    $endgroup$
    – Doug Fir
    Jan 9 at 1:34






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
    $endgroup$
    – Klint Qinami
    Jan 9 at 1:35










1




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$begingroup$
It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:23




$begingroup$
It would be nice if you wrote more than just a few equations pulled out of thin air to explain your work. You know, explain what you did when and why. I feel that would be more helpful to the OP than just a bunch of equations with zero context.
$endgroup$
– Eevee Trainer
Jan 9 at 1:23












$begingroup$
Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
$endgroup$
– Klint Qinami
Jan 9 at 1:27




$begingroup$
Ok @EeveeTrainer, done.
$endgroup$
– Klint Qinami
Jan 9 at 1:27












$begingroup$
Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Jan 9 at 1:34




$begingroup$
Thanks Klint. I can mostly follow. "Factor out 4 from numerator and denominator and cancel.", how do you do that? I cannot make the jump?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Jan 9 at 1:34




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$begingroup$
$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
$endgroup$
– Klint Qinami
Jan 9 at 1:35






$begingroup$
$frac{8x + 4}{8sqrt{2}} = frac{4(2x + 1)}{4(2sqrt{2})} = frac{2x+1}{2 sqrt{2}}$
$endgroup$
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