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I'm struggling with proving the following theorem:



$textit{Let }A:Usubset Xrightarrow Ytextit{ be a completely continuous operator from an open subset U of a normed}$
$textit{space X into a Banach space Y and assume A to be Fréchet differentiable at }psiin U.textit{ Then the}$
$textit{derivative }A'_{psi}textit{ is compact.}$



I'm not sure how to go about this. I was thinking of trying to do it by contradiction, i.e., assuming that $A'_{psi}$ is not compact, but I'm not really sure how to proceed from there... I guess what I am asking for is a hint or a strategy for trying to prove $A'_{psi}$. Any help is highly appreciated.



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    I'm struggling with proving the following theorem:



    $textit{Let }A:Usubset Xrightarrow Ytextit{ be a completely continuous operator from an open subset U of a normed}$
    $textit{space X into a Banach space Y and assume A to be Fréchet differentiable at }psiin U.textit{ Then the}$
    $textit{derivative }A'_{psi}textit{ is compact.}$



    I'm not sure how to go about this. I was thinking of trying to do it by contradiction, i.e., assuming that $A'_{psi}$ is not compact, but I'm not really sure how to proceed from there... I guess what I am asking for is a hint or a strategy for trying to prove $A'_{psi}$. Any help is highly appreciated.



    Thanks in advance.










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      I'm struggling with proving the following theorem:



      $textit{Let }A:Usubset Xrightarrow Ytextit{ be a completely continuous operator from an open subset U of a normed}$
      $textit{space X into a Banach space Y and assume A to be Fréchet differentiable at }psiin U.textit{ Then the}$
      $textit{derivative }A'_{psi}textit{ is compact.}$



      I'm not sure how to go about this. I was thinking of trying to do it by contradiction, i.e., assuming that $A'_{psi}$ is not compact, but I'm not really sure how to proceed from there... I guess what I am asking for is a hint or a strategy for trying to prove $A'_{psi}$. Any help is highly appreciated.



      Thanks in advance.










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      I'm struggling with proving the following theorem:



      $textit{Let }A:Usubset Xrightarrow Ytextit{ be a completely continuous operator from an open subset U of a normed}$
      $textit{space X into a Banach space Y and assume A to be Fréchet differentiable at }psiin U.textit{ Then the}$
      $textit{derivative }A'_{psi}textit{ is compact.}$



      I'm not sure how to go about this. I was thinking of trying to do it by contradiction, i.e., assuming that $A'_{psi}$ is not compact, but I'm not really sure how to proceed from there... I guess what I am asking for is a hint or a strategy for trying to prove $A'_{psi}$. Any help is highly appreciated.



      Thanks in advance.







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          Let $T=A'_psi$. By the assumption, we have for some $delta>0$,
          $$
          A(psi + h) = A(psi) +T h + epsilon(h),quad forall |h|<delta
          $$
          where $frac{|epsilon(h)|}{|h|}to 0$ as $|h|to 0$. Without loss of generality, we may assume that $psi =0$ and $A(psi)=0$. Let $(x_n)subset X$ be a sequence with $sup_n |x_n|le 1$. Our goal is to show that there exists a subsequence $n(k)$ such that $
          Tx_{n(k)}
          $
          is convergent. By the assumption on $epsilon(cdot)$, for any given $eta >0$, there exists (sufficiently large) $Minmathbb{N}$ such that$$Big|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le etaBig|frac{1}{M}x_nBig|$$ for all $nge 1$. This impiles that$$
          MBig|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le eta|x_n|leq eta.
          $$

          Now, observe that by the assumption that $A$ is completely continuous, (i.e. every bounded sequence $(u_n)$ admits a subsequence that makes $A(u_{n(k)})$ norm-convergent in $Y$) the diagonalization method gives us a subsequence $n(k)$ such that for each $j=1,2,ldots$, the sequence
          $$
          Aleft(frac{1}{j}x_{n(k)}right)
          $$
          converges to some $y_jin Y$.
          From the fact that$$
          Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright) = frac{1}{M}Tx_n+epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright),
          $$
          it follows
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          |Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |&=& Big|MAleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-My_M-Mepsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)Big|\
          &le&MBig|Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-y_MBig|+eta.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          By taking $ktoinfty$, we get
          $$
          limsup_{ktoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |le eta
          $$
          and
          $$
          limsup_{k,ltoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-Tx_{n(l)} |le 2eta.
          $$
          Since $eta>0$ was arbitrary, This proves that $Tx_{n(k)}$ is Cauchy in $Y$. Thus $Tx_{n(k)}$ is convergent, and the compactness follows as a result.






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            Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
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          • $begingroup$
            @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
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            The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 11:41










          • $begingroup$
            @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
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            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43












          • $begingroup$
            @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
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          $begingroup$

          Let $T=A'_psi$. By the assumption, we have for some $delta>0$,
          $$
          A(psi + h) = A(psi) +T h + epsilon(h),quad forall |h|<delta
          $$
          where $frac{|epsilon(h)|}{|h|}to 0$ as $|h|to 0$. Without loss of generality, we may assume that $psi =0$ and $A(psi)=0$. Let $(x_n)subset X$ be a sequence with $sup_n |x_n|le 1$. Our goal is to show that there exists a subsequence $n(k)$ such that $
          Tx_{n(k)}
          $
          is convergent. By the assumption on $epsilon(cdot)$, for any given $eta >0$, there exists (sufficiently large) $Minmathbb{N}$ such that$$Big|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le etaBig|frac{1}{M}x_nBig|$$ for all $nge 1$. This impiles that$$
          MBig|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le eta|x_n|leq eta.
          $$

          Now, observe that by the assumption that $A$ is completely continuous, (i.e. every bounded sequence $(u_n)$ admits a subsequence that makes $A(u_{n(k)})$ norm-convergent in $Y$) the diagonalization method gives us a subsequence $n(k)$ such that for each $j=1,2,ldots$, the sequence
          $$
          Aleft(frac{1}{j}x_{n(k)}right)
          $$
          converges to some $y_jin Y$.
          From the fact that$$
          Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright) = frac{1}{M}Tx_n+epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright),
          $$
          it follows
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          |Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |&=& Big|MAleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-My_M-Mepsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)Big|\
          &le&MBig|Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-y_MBig|+eta.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          By taking $ktoinfty$, we get
          $$
          limsup_{ktoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |le eta
          $$
          and
          $$
          limsup_{k,ltoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-Tx_{n(l)} |le 2eta.
          $$
          Since $eta>0$ was arbitrary, This proves that $Tx_{n(k)}$ is Cauchy in $Y$. Thus $Tx_{n(k)}$ is convergent, and the compactness follows as a result.






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          • $begingroup$
            Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
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            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 9:55










          • $begingroup$
            @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 10:32










          • $begingroup$
            The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 11:41










          • $begingroup$
            @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
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            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43












          • $begingroup$
            @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
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            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43


















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          Let $T=A'_psi$. By the assumption, we have for some $delta>0$,
          $$
          A(psi + h) = A(psi) +T h + epsilon(h),quad forall |h|<delta
          $$
          where $frac{|epsilon(h)|}{|h|}to 0$ as $|h|to 0$. Without loss of generality, we may assume that $psi =0$ and $A(psi)=0$. Let $(x_n)subset X$ be a sequence with $sup_n |x_n|le 1$. Our goal is to show that there exists a subsequence $n(k)$ such that $
          Tx_{n(k)}
          $
          is convergent. By the assumption on $epsilon(cdot)$, for any given $eta >0$, there exists (sufficiently large) $Minmathbb{N}$ such that$$Big|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le etaBig|frac{1}{M}x_nBig|$$ for all $nge 1$. This impiles that$$
          MBig|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le eta|x_n|leq eta.
          $$

          Now, observe that by the assumption that $A$ is completely continuous, (i.e. every bounded sequence $(u_n)$ admits a subsequence that makes $A(u_{n(k)})$ norm-convergent in $Y$) the diagonalization method gives us a subsequence $n(k)$ such that for each $j=1,2,ldots$, the sequence
          $$
          Aleft(frac{1}{j}x_{n(k)}right)
          $$
          converges to some $y_jin Y$.
          From the fact that$$
          Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright) = frac{1}{M}Tx_n+epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright),
          $$
          it follows
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          |Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |&=& Big|MAleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-My_M-Mepsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)Big|\
          &le&MBig|Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-y_MBig|+eta.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          By taking $ktoinfty$, we get
          $$
          limsup_{ktoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |le eta
          $$
          and
          $$
          limsup_{k,ltoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-Tx_{n(l)} |le 2eta.
          $$
          Since $eta>0$ was arbitrary, This proves that $Tx_{n(k)}$ is Cauchy in $Y$. Thus $Tx_{n(k)}$ is convergent, and the compactness follows as a result.






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          • $begingroup$
            Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
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            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 9:55










          • $begingroup$
            @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
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            – Song
            Jan 9 at 10:32










          • $begingroup$
            The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 11:41










          • $begingroup$
            @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43












          • $begingroup$
            @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
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            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43
















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          $begingroup$

          Let $T=A'_psi$. By the assumption, we have for some $delta>0$,
          $$
          A(psi + h) = A(psi) +T h + epsilon(h),quad forall |h|<delta
          $$
          where $frac{|epsilon(h)|}{|h|}to 0$ as $|h|to 0$. Without loss of generality, we may assume that $psi =0$ and $A(psi)=0$. Let $(x_n)subset X$ be a sequence with $sup_n |x_n|le 1$. Our goal is to show that there exists a subsequence $n(k)$ such that $
          Tx_{n(k)}
          $
          is convergent. By the assumption on $epsilon(cdot)$, for any given $eta >0$, there exists (sufficiently large) $Minmathbb{N}$ such that$$Big|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le etaBig|frac{1}{M}x_nBig|$$ for all $nge 1$. This impiles that$$
          MBig|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le eta|x_n|leq eta.
          $$

          Now, observe that by the assumption that $A$ is completely continuous, (i.e. every bounded sequence $(u_n)$ admits a subsequence that makes $A(u_{n(k)})$ norm-convergent in $Y$) the diagonalization method gives us a subsequence $n(k)$ such that for each $j=1,2,ldots$, the sequence
          $$
          Aleft(frac{1}{j}x_{n(k)}right)
          $$
          converges to some $y_jin Y$.
          From the fact that$$
          Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright) = frac{1}{M}Tx_n+epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright),
          $$
          it follows
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          |Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |&=& Big|MAleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-My_M-Mepsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)Big|\
          &le&MBig|Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-y_MBig|+eta.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          By taking $ktoinfty$, we get
          $$
          limsup_{ktoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |le eta
          $$
          and
          $$
          limsup_{k,ltoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-Tx_{n(l)} |le 2eta.
          $$
          Since $eta>0$ was arbitrary, This proves that $Tx_{n(k)}$ is Cauchy in $Y$. Thus $Tx_{n(k)}$ is convergent, and the compactness follows as a result.






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          Let $T=A'_psi$. By the assumption, we have for some $delta>0$,
          $$
          A(psi + h) = A(psi) +T h + epsilon(h),quad forall |h|<delta
          $$
          where $frac{|epsilon(h)|}{|h|}to 0$ as $|h|to 0$. Without loss of generality, we may assume that $psi =0$ and $A(psi)=0$. Let $(x_n)subset X$ be a sequence with $sup_n |x_n|le 1$. Our goal is to show that there exists a subsequence $n(k)$ such that $
          Tx_{n(k)}
          $
          is convergent. By the assumption on $epsilon(cdot)$, for any given $eta >0$, there exists (sufficiently large) $Minmathbb{N}$ such that$$Big|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le etaBig|frac{1}{M}x_nBig|$$ for all $nge 1$. This impiles that$$
          MBig|epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright)Big|le eta|x_n|leq eta.
          $$

          Now, observe that by the assumption that $A$ is completely continuous, (i.e. every bounded sequence $(u_n)$ admits a subsequence that makes $A(u_{n(k)})$ norm-convergent in $Y$) the diagonalization method gives us a subsequence $n(k)$ such that for each $j=1,2,ldots$, the sequence
          $$
          Aleft(frac{1}{j}x_{n(k)}right)
          $$
          converges to some $y_jin Y$.
          From the fact that$$
          Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright) = frac{1}{M}Tx_n+epsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_nright),
          $$
          it follows
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          |Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |&=& Big|MAleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-My_M-Mepsilonleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)Big|\
          &le&MBig|Aleft(frac{1}{M}x_{n(k)}right)-y_MBig|+eta.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          By taking $ktoinfty$, we get
          $$
          limsup_{ktoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-My_M |le eta
          $$
          and
          $$
          limsup_{k,ltoinfty}|Tx_{n(k)}-Tx_{n(l)} |le 2eta.
          $$
          Since $eta>0$ was arbitrary, This proves that $Tx_{n(k)}$ is Cauchy in $Y$. Thus $Tx_{n(k)}$ is convergent, and the compactness follows as a result.







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          • $begingroup$
            Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 9:55










          • $begingroup$
            @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 10:32










          • $begingroup$
            The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 11:41










          • $begingroup$
            @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43












          • $begingroup$
            @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43




















          • $begingroup$
            Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 9:55










          • $begingroup$
            @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 10:32










          • $begingroup$
            The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
            $endgroup$
            – Giuseppe Negro
            Jan 9 at 11:41










          • $begingroup$
            @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
            $endgroup$
            – Song
            Jan 9 at 12:43












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            @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
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            – Song
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          Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
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          – Giuseppe Negro
          Jan 9 at 9:55




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          Very good answer, but can you please spend a couple more words on the fact that $A(x_n)to 0$? To me, a completely continuous operator is a continuous operator that maps bounded sets to compact sets. Is it the case that this operator is weak-norm continuous? Thank you.
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          – Giuseppe Negro
          Jan 9 at 9:55












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          @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
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          – Song
          Jan 9 at 10:32




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          @GiuseppeNegro I'm sorry for the confusion, sir ... I've looked up precise definition of completely continuous operators, and it turns out that I used the wrong definition that $A$ sends weakly converging sequence to norm convergent sequence. Now, I edited my answer according to the correct definition that you gave. I appreciate your comment!
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          – Song
          Jan 9 at 10:32












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          The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
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          – Giuseppe Negro
          Jan 9 at 11:41




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          The previous version of the answer was also very good, I was asking out of my ignorance.
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          – Giuseppe Negro
          Jan 9 at 11:41












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          @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
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          – Song
          Jan 9 at 12:43






          $begingroup$
          @James Note that $A$ is not assumed to be a linear map. We are dealing with a possibly non-linear, Frechet differentiable function $A:Uto Y$. But its derivative $A'$ is of course linear. About the definition: if $A$ linear (which is not suitable for our case), '$A$ sending weakly convergent sequence to norm-convergent sequence' is the definition of completely continuous function. And it is in general stronger than the compactness of $A$ which is saying 'every bounded set is mapped to a relatively compact via $A$'.
          $endgroup$
          – Song
          Jan 9 at 12:43














          $begingroup$
          @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
          $endgroup$
          – Song
          Jan 9 at 12:43






          $begingroup$
          @James However, for a non-linear map $A$, I found in link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-015-9986-3_3 that the definition of complete continuity is more like that of compactness of a linear operator. It probably is more universally accepted definition, but I'm not sure. The proof I gave is based on this weaker assumption, and should also be true under the alternative definition.
          $endgroup$
          – Song
          Jan 9 at 12:43




















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