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Consider the system



$$ begin{align*} x-1 &= 0\ xy-1 &= 0\ end{align*}$$



For what starting point will Newton's method fail for solving this
system? Explain




Try



I know for multidimensional problems, the newton's algorithm is similar to the single variable case: we have



enter image description here



where
$Df(x_k)$ is the jacobian matrix and $x_0$ is the starting point. In our case



$$ f(x,y) = (x-1, xy-1)$$ so
the jacobian is



$$ Df(x,y) = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ y & x end{bmatrix} $$



Notice that the determinant of jacobian is $x$ and this better not be $0$. Therefore, any $x_0 = (x,y)$ will do unless $x=0$. In other words, the points $(0,alpha)$ will fail if used as starting point for newton method.



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    Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
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$begingroup$



Consider the system



$$ begin{align*} x-1 &= 0\ xy-1 &= 0\ end{align*}$$



For what starting point will Newton's method fail for solving this
system? Explain




Try



I know for multidimensional problems, the newton's algorithm is similar to the single variable case: we have



enter image description here



where
$Df(x_k)$ is the jacobian matrix and $x_0$ is the starting point. In our case



$$ f(x,y) = (x-1, xy-1)$$ so
the jacobian is



$$ Df(x,y) = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ y & x end{bmatrix} $$



Notice that the determinant of jacobian is $x$ and this better not be $0$. Therefore, any $x_0 = (x,y)$ will do unless $x=0$. In other words, the points $(0,alpha)$ will fail if used as starting point for newton method.



Is this correct?










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    $begingroup$
    Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
    $endgroup$
    – obscurans
    Jan 21 at 8:00














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$begingroup$



Consider the system



$$ begin{align*} x-1 &= 0\ xy-1 &= 0\ end{align*}$$



For what starting point will Newton's method fail for solving this
system? Explain




Try



I know for multidimensional problems, the newton's algorithm is similar to the single variable case: we have



enter image description here



where
$Df(x_k)$ is the jacobian matrix and $x_0$ is the starting point. In our case



$$ f(x,y) = (x-1, xy-1)$$ so
the jacobian is



$$ Df(x,y) = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ y & x end{bmatrix} $$



Notice that the determinant of jacobian is $x$ and this better not be $0$. Therefore, any $x_0 = (x,y)$ will do unless $x=0$. In other words, the points $(0,alpha)$ will fail if used as starting point for newton method.



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Consider the system



$$ begin{align*} x-1 &= 0\ xy-1 &= 0\ end{align*}$$



For what starting point will Newton's method fail for solving this
system? Explain




Try



I know for multidimensional problems, the newton's algorithm is similar to the single variable case: we have



enter image description here



where
$Df(x_k)$ is the jacobian matrix and $x_0$ is the starting point. In our case



$$ f(x,y) = (x-1, xy-1)$$ so
the jacobian is



$$ Df(x,y) = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ y & x end{bmatrix} $$



Notice that the determinant of jacobian is $x$ and this better not be $0$. Therefore, any $x_0 = (x,y)$ will do unless $x=0$. In other words, the points $(0,alpha)$ will fail if used as starting point for newton method.



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    $begingroup$
    Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
    $endgroup$
    – obscurans
    Jan 21 at 8:00














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
    $endgroup$
    – obscurans
    Jan 21 at 8:00








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1




$begingroup$
Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
$endgroup$
– obscurans
Jan 21 at 8:00




$begingroup$
Looks good. Depending on how much work you want to do for the problem, you may consider this: for what starting points will Newton's method work for one step, and then on the second step something bad happens?
$endgroup$
– obscurans
Jan 21 at 8:00










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