Simplifying Radicals In Heron’s Formula












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When I sometimes use Heron’s formula and the Pythagorean Theorem in the coordinate system to find the area of a triangle, I get stumped at the last step: simplifying the radical. Is there a general way to do it?
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An example will be to find the area of a triangle with side lengths $sqrt{2},sqrt{3},sqrt{5}$, which is simplifying${{sqrt{(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(-sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}-sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}-sqrt{5})}}over 4}$.










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    Please show some examples.
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    A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
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When I sometimes use Heron’s formula and the Pythagorean Theorem in the coordinate system to find the area of a triangle, I get stumped at the last step: simplifying the radical. Is there a general way to do it?
Edit:

An example will be to find the area of a triangle with side lengths $sqrt{2},sqrt{3},sqrt{5}$, which is simplifying${{sqrt{(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(-sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}-sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}-sqrt{5})}}over 4}$.










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    Please show some examples.
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    – marty cohen
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    A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
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When I sometimes use Heron’s formula and the Pythagorean Theorem in the coordinate system to find the area of a triangle, I get stumped at the last step: simplifying the radical. Is there a general way to do it?
Edit:

An example will be to find the area of a triangle with side lengths $sqrt{2},sqrt{3},sqrt{5}$, which is simplifying${{sqrt{(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(-sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}-sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}-sqrt{5})}}over 4}$.










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When I sometimes use Heron’s formula and the Pythagorean Theorem in the coordinate system to find the area of a triangle, I get stumped at the last step: simplifying the radical. Is there a general way to do it?
Edit:

An example will be to find the area of a triangle with side lengths $sqrt{2},sqrt{3},sqrt{5}$, which is simplifying${{sqrt{(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(-sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}-sqrt{3}+sqrt{5})(sqrt{2}+sqrt{3}-sqrt{5})}}over 4}$.







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    Please show some examples.
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    – marty cohen
    Jan 27 at 0:10










  • $begingroup$
    A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
    $endgroup$
    – Blue
    Jan 27 at 0:18




















  • $begingroup$
    Please show some examples.
    $endgroup$
    – marty cohen
    Jan 27 at 0:10










  • $begingroup$
    A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
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    – Blue
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Please show some examples.
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– marty cohen
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Please show some examples.
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– marty cohen
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A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
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– Blue
Jan 27 at 0:18






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A search of Math.SE for "simplify radical" yields many results. Perhaps some of them could be useful to you.
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Hint:

See if you can show
$$(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(-sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}-sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}-sqrt{c})=-a^2-b^2-c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc$$



Edit:

Let $$F(x,y,z)=(x+y+z)(-x+y+z)(x-y+z)(x+y-z).$$ We will show that $$F(x,y,z)=-x^4-y^4-z^4+2x^2y^2+2x^2z^2+2y^2z^2.$$ At first I wanted to use calculus to compare coefficients using derivatives but it is easier than this.



Note that $F(-x,y,z)=F(x,y,z)$ and remains unchanged by any permutation of $x,y,z$. This means $F(x,y,z)$ contains only even powers of $x,y,z$. Since every term is of degree $4$, the only possible summands are of the form $kx^4$ (and therefore by symmetry $ky^4$ and $kz^4$) or $ell x^2y^2$ (and therefore $ell x^2z^2$ and $ell y^2z^2$.)



So $$F(x,y,z)=k(x^4+y^4+z^4)+ell(x^2y^2+x^2z^2+y^2z^2).$$
To calculate $k$, just plug in $y=z=0$ to find $k=-1$. To calculate $ell$, plug in $x=y=z=1$. Then on the one hand $F(1,1,1)=(1+1+1)(-1+1+1)^3=3$, and on the other $$F(1,1,1)= -(1^4+1^4+1^4)+ell(1^2 1^2 +1^2 1^2+1^2 1^2)=-3+3ell$$
Solving for $ell$, we get $ell=2$.






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    There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
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    I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
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    @MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
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    Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
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To simplify a radical expression, assuming that the radicand is a positive real number, find the radicand's largest perfect square factor and rewrite the expression as a product of the two factors. Simplify the perfect square that you factored out and you are left with the radical in simplest radical form.



I think the best way to see this is by example.



Consider $sqrt{50}$.



Since $sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b}$, this can be rewritten as $sqrt{25}sqrt{2}$. Note that $25$ is the largest perfect square factor of $50$. Now you can easily take the square root of $25$, which is $pm{5}$. Since our original expression is positive, our new expression in simplest radical form is ${5}sqrt{2}$.






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    Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
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Hint:

See if you can show
$$(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(-sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}-sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}-sqrt{c})=-a^2-b^2-c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc$$



Edit:

Let $$F(x,y,z)=(x+y+z)(-x+y+z)(x-y+z)(x+y-z).$$ We will show that $$F(x,y,z)=-x^4-y^4-z^4+2x^2y^2+2x^2z^2+2y^2z^2.$$ At first I wanted to use calculus to compare coefficients using derivatives but it is easier than this.



Note that $F(-x,y,z)=F(x,y,z)$ and remains unchanged by any permutation of $x,y,z$. This means $F(x,y,z)$ contains only even powers of $x,y,z$. Since every term is of degree $4$, the only possible summands are of the form $kx^4$ (and therefore by symmetry $ky^4$ and $kz^4$) or $ell x^2y^2$ (and therefore $ell x^2z^2$ and $ell y^2z^2$.)



So $$F(x,y,z)=k(x^4+y^4+z^4)+ell(x^2y^2+x^2z^2+y^2z^2).$$
To calculate $k$, just plug in $y=z=0$ to find $k=-1$. To calculate $ell$, plug in $x=y=z=1$. Then on the one hand $F(1,1,1)=(1+1+1)(-1+1+1)^3=3$, and on the other $$F(1,1,1)= -(1^4+1^4+1^4)+ell(1^2 1^2 +1^2 1^2+1^2 1^2)=-3+3ell$$
Solving for $ell$, we get $ell=2$.






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    There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
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    I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
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    @MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
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    Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
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Hint:

See if you can show
$$(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(-sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}-sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}-sqrt{c})=-a^2-b^2-c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc$$



Edit:

Let $$F(x,y,z)=(x+y+z)(-x+y+z)(x-y+z)(x+y-z).$$ We will show that $$F(x,y,z)=-x^4-y^4-z^4+2x^2y^2+2x^2z^2+2y^2z^2.$$ At first I wanted to use calculus to compare coefficients using derivatives but it is easier than this.



Note that $F(-x,y,z)=F(x,y,z)$ and remains unchanged by any permutation of $x,y,z$. This means $F(x,y,z)$ contains only even powers of $x,y,z$. Since every term is of degree $4$, the only possible summands are of the form $kx^4$ (and therefore by symmetry $ky^4$ and $kz^4$) or $ell x^2y^2$ (and therefore $ell x^2z^2$ and $ell y^2z^2$.)



So $$F(x,y,z)=k(x^4+y^4+z^4)+ell(x^2y^2+x^2z^2+y^2z^2).$$
To calculate $k$, just plug in $y=z=0$ to find $k=-1$. To calculate $ell$, plug in $x=y=z=1$. Then on the one hand $F(1,1,1)=(1+1+1)(-1+1+1)^3=3$, and on the other $$F(1,1,1)= -(1^4+1^4+1^4)+ell(1^2 1^2 +1^2 1^2+1^2 1^2)=-3+3ell$$
Solving for $ell$, we get $ell=2$.






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    Whoa! Why is that?
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    – Math Lover
    Jan 27 at 19:44










  • $begingroup$
    There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 19:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 20:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 29 at 23:52






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    $begingroup$
    Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Math Lover
    Jan 30 at 14:12














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Hint:

See if you can show
$$(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(-sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}-sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}-sqrt{c})=-a^2-b^2-c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc$$



Edit:

Let $$F(x,y,z)=(x+y+z)(-x+y+z)(x-y+z)(x+y-z).$$ We will show that $$F(x,y,z)=-x^4-y^4-z^4+2x^2y^2+2x^2z^2+2y^2z^2.$$ At first I wanted to use calculus to compare coefficients using derivatives but it is easier than this.



Note that $F(-x,y,z)=F(x,y,z)$ and remains unchanged by any permutation of $x,y,z$. This means $F(x,y,z)$ contains only even powers of $x,y,z$. Since every term is of degree $4$, the only possible summands are of the form $kx^4$ (and therefore by symmetry $ky^4$ and $kz^4$) or $ell x^2y^2$ (and therefore $ell x^2z^2$ and $ell y^2z^2$.)



So $$F(x,y,z)=k(x^4+y^4+z^4)+ell(x^2y^2+x^2z^2+y^2z^2).$$
To calculate $k$, just plug in $y=z=0$ to find $k=-1$. To calculate $ell$, plug in $x=y=z=1$. Then on the one hand $F(1,1,1)=(1+1+1)(-1+1+1)^3=3$, and on the other $$F(1,1,1)= -(1^4+1^4+1^4)+ell(1^2 1^2 +1^2 1^2+1^2 1^2)=-3+3ell$$
Solving for $ell$, we get $ell=2$.






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Hint:

See if you can show
$$(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(-sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}-sqrt{b}+sqrt{c})(sqrt{a}+sqrt{b}-sqrt{c})=-a^2-b^2-c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc$$



Edit:

Let $$F(x,y,z)=(x+y+z)(-x+y+z)(x-y+z)(x+y-z).$$ We will show that $$F(x,y,z)=-x^4-y^4-z^4+2x^2y^2+2x^2z^2+2y^2z^2.$$ At first I wanted to use calculus to compare coefficients using derivatives but it is easier than this.



Note that $F(-x,y,z)=F(x,y,z)$ and remains unchanged by any permutation of $x,y,z$. This means $F(x,y,z)$ contains only even powers of $x,y,z$. Since every term is of degree $4$, the only possible summands are of the form $kx^4$ (and therefore by symmetry $ky^4$ and $kz^4$) or $ell x^2y^2$ (and therefore $ell x^2z^2$ and $ell y^2z^2$.)



So $$F(x,y,z)=k(x^4+y^4+z^4)+ell(x^2y^2+x^2z^2+y^2z^2).$$
To calculate $k$, just plug in $y=z=0$ to find $k=-1$. To calculate $ell$, plug in $x=y=z=1$. Then on the one hand $F(1,1,1)=(1+1+1)(-1+1+1)^3=3$, and on the other $$F(1,1,1)= -(1^4+1^4+1^4)+ell(1^2 1^2 +1^2 1^2+1^2 1^2)=-3+3ell$$
Solving for $ell$, we get $ell=2$.







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    Whoa! Why is that?
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    – Math Lover
    Jan 27 at 19:44










  • $begingroup$
    There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 19:50






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    I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 20:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 29 at 23:52






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Math Lover
    Jan 30 at 14:12


















  • $begingroup$
    Whoa! Why is that?
    $endgroup$
    – Math Lover
    Jan 27 at 19:44










  • $begingroup$
    There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 19:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 27 at 20:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
    $endgroup$
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Jan 29 at 23:52






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
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    – Math Lover
    Jan 30 at 14:12
















$begingroup$
Whoa! Why is that?
$endgroup$
– Math Lover
Jan 27 at 19:44




$begingroup$
Whoa! Why is that?
$endgroup$
– Math Lover
Jan 27 at 19:44












$begingroup$
There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
$endgroup$
– Cheerful Parsnip
Jan 27 at 19:50




$begingroup$
There's probably a sexy proof, but you can just laboriously multiply everything out.
$endgroup$
– Cheerful Parsnip
Jan 27 at 19:50




1




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$begingroup$
I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
$endgroup$
– Cheerful Parsnip
Jan 27 at 20:03




$begingroup$
I suspected there would be a lot of cancellation so I had Wolfram Alpha multiply everything out for me. wolframalpha.com/input/…
$endgroup$
– Cheerful Parsnip
Jan 27 at 20:03




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$begingroup$
@MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
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$begingroup$
@MathLover, it turns out the proof is actually very simple. I edited the answer to provide more details.
$endgroup$
– Cheerful Parsnip
Jan 29 at 23:52




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$begingroup$
Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
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Whoa, that is so cool! Thanks!
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To simplify a radical expression, assuming that the radicand is a positive real number, find the radicand's largest perfect square factor and rewrite the expression as a product of the two factors. Simplify the perfect square that you factored out and you are left with the radical in simplest radical form.



I think the best way to see this is by example.



Consider $sqrt{50}$.



Since $sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b}$, this can be rewritten as $sqrt{25}sqrt{2}$. Note that $25$ is the largest perfect square factor of $50$. Now you can easily take the square root of $25$, which is $pm{5}$. Since our original expression is positive, our new expression in simplest radical form is ${5}sqrt{2}$.






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    Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
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$begingroup$

To simplify a radical expression, assuming that the radicand is a positive real number, find the radicand's largest perfect square factor and rewrite the expression as a product of the two factors. Simplify the perfect square that you factored out and you are left with the radical in simplest radical form.



I think the best way to see this is by example.



Consider $sqrt{50}$.



Since $sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b}$, this can be rewritten as $sqrt{25}sqrt{2}$. Note that $25$ is the largest perfect square factor of $50$. Now you can easily take the square root of $25$, which is $pm{5}$. Since our original expression is positive, our new expression in simplest radical form is ${5}sqrt{2}$.






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    $begingroup$
    Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
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    – Matthew Leingang
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$begingroup$

To simplify a radical expression, assuming that the radicand is a positive real number, find the radicand's largest perfect square factor and rewrite the expression as a product of the two factors. Simplify the perfect square that you factored out and you are left with the radical in simplest radical form.



I think the best way to see this is by example.



Consider $sqrt{50}$.



Since $sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b}$, this can be rewritten as $sqrt{25}sqrt{2}$. Note that $25$ is the largest perfect square factor of $50$. Now you can easily take the square root of $25$, which is $pm{5}$. Since our original expression is positive, our new expression in simplest radical form is ${5}sqrt{2}$.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



To simplify a radical expression, assuming that the radicand is a positive real number, find the radicand's largest perfect square factor and rewrite the expression as a product of the two factors. Simplify the perfect square that you factored out and you are left with the radical in simplest radical form.



I think the best way to see this is by example.



Consider $sqrt{50}$.



Since $sqrt{ab}=sqrt{a}sqrt{b}$, this can be rewritten as $sqrt{25}sqrt{2}$. Note that $25$ is the largest perfect square factor of $50$. Now you can easily take the square root of $25$, which is $pm{5}$. Since our original expression is positive, our new expression in simplest radical form is ${5}sqrt{2}$.







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    Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
    $endgroup$
    – Matthew Leingang
    Jan 27 at 0:13










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$begingroup$
Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
$endgroup$
– Matthew Leingang
Jan 27 at 0:13






$begingroup$
Good answer, although I'll quibble on your last line. There are two numbers whose square is 50, one positive and one negative, but the square root of 50 is the nonnegative one. So $sqrt{50} = 5sqrt{2}$, not $pm5sqrt{2}$.
$endgroup$
– Matthew Leingang
Jan 27 at 0:13




















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