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    As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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    sry 4 replying late,actly,at first, ttl have no clue working on this question. @trancelocation
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Which one is larger?



8 factorial to the power of 1/8 or 9 factorial to the power of 1/9. Show your work without calculator.










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    As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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    sry 4 replying late,actly,at first, ttl have no clue working on this question. @trancelocation
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    As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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    sry 4 replying late,actly,at first, ttl have no clue working on this question. @trancelocation
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    $begingroup$
    As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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    – trancelocation
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    sry 4 replying late,actly,at first, ttl have no clue working on this question. @trancelocation
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    Jan 21 at 13:19










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As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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As the exercise requires: "Show your work." :-)
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– trancelocation
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sry 4 replying late,actly,at first, ttl have no clue working on this question. @trancelocation
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– Kevin
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Hint: Compare $(8!)^9=(8!)(8!)^8$ and $(9!)^8=9^8(8!)^8$.






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    thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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Define the function $f(x) = x^{frac{1}{x}}$ and calculate its derivative. You should get $f'(x)=-x^{frac{1}{x}-2}(ln(x)-1)$. You see that that $forall x > e: f'(x) < 0$ since $ln(e)=1$. Thus, the function $f(x)$ is strictly decreasing function for $x>e approx 2.718$. Hence, $f(8) > f(9)$.






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    You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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    True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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Hint: Compare $(8!)^9=(8!)(8!)^8$ and $(9!)^8=9^8(8!)^8$.






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    thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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Hint: Compare $(8!)^9=(8!)(8!)^8$ and $(9!)^8=9^8(8!)^8$.






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    thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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Hint: Compare $(8!)^9=(8!)(8!)^8$ and $(9!)^8=9^8(8!)^8$.






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Hint: Compare $(8!)^9=(8!)(8!)^8$ and $(9!)^8=9^8(8!)^8$.







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    thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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    thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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$begingroup$
thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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$begingroup$
thx! since 8! is less than 9^8, (8!)^9 is less than (9!)^8, thus both them to the power of 1/72 then we have 8 factorial to the power of 1/8 is less than 9 factorial to the power of 1/9.
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Define the function $f(x) = x^{frac{1}{x}}$ and calculate its derivative. You should get $f'(x)=-x^{frac{1}{x}-2}(ln(x)-1)$. You see that that $forall x > e: f'(x) < 0$ since $ln(e)=1$. Thus, the function $f(x)$ is strictly decreasing function for $x>e approx 2.718$. Hence, $f(8) > f(9)$.






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    You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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    True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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Define the function $f(x) = x^{frac{1}{x}}$ and calculate its derivative. You should get $f'(x)=-x^{frac{1}{x}-2}(ln(x)-1)$. You see that that $forall x > e: f'(x) < 0$ since $ln(e)=1$. Thus, the function $f(x)$ is strictly decreasing function for $x>e approx 2.718$. Hence, $f(8) > f(9)$.






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    You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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    True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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    Jan 21 at 12:15














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Define the function $f(x) = x^{frac{1}{x}}$ and calculate its derivative. You should get $f'(x)=-x^{frac{1}{x}-2}(ln(x)-1)$. You see that that $forall x > e: f'(x) < 0$ since $ln(e)=1$. Thus, the function $f(x)$ is strictly decreasing function for $x>e approx 2.718$. Hence, $f(8) > f(9)$.






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Define the function $f(x) = x^{frac{1}{x}}$ and calculate its derivative. You should get $f'(x)=-x^{frac{1}{x}-2}(ln(x)-1)$. You see that that $forall x > e: f'(x) < 0$ since $ln(e)=1$. Thus, the function $f(x)$ is strictly decreasing function for $x>e approx 2.718$. Hence, $f(8) > f(9)$.







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    You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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    True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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    – Selos
    Jan 21 at 12:15














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    $begingroup$
    You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
    $endgroup$
    – lhf
    Jan 21 at 12:03












  • $begingroup$
    True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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    – Selos
    Jan 21 at 12:15








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You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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– lhf
Jan 21 at 12:03






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You need $f(x)=(x!)^{1/x}$. And probably use $Gamma$ instead of factorial.
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– lhf
Jan 21 at 12:03














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True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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– Selos
Jan 21 at 12:15




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True, I missed the factorial part. It's still possible but your solution seems more elegant, faster and easier.
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– Selos
Jan 21 at 12:15


















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