decide $sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}$ convergance
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$sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}$
how can one decide convergence / divergence of such sum ? i have seen context where they turn the integral and the sum why is it allowed ?
tried to substitute its tough integral to solve
$t = nx$
$dt = n~dx$
$int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4} = frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{dt}{1+t^4}$
integration sequences-and-series
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$sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}$
how can one decide convergence / divergence of such sum ? i have seen context where they turn the integral and the sum why is it allowed ?
tried to substitute its tough integral to solve
$t = nx$
$dt = n~dx$
$int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4} = frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{dt}{1+t^4}$
integration sequences-and-series
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$sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}$
how can one decide convergence / divergence of such sum ? i have seen context where they turn the integral and the sum why is it allowed ?
tried to substitute its tough integral to solve
$t = nx$
$dt = n~dx$
$int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4} = frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{dt}{1+t^4}$
integration sequences-and-series
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$sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}$
how can one decide convergence / divergence of such sum ? i have seen context where they turn the integral and the sum why is it allowed ?
tried to substitute its tough integral to solve
$t = nx$
$dt = n~dx$
$int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4} = frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{dt}{1+t^4}$
integration sequences-and-series
integration sequences-and-series
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Observe that
$$begin{eqnarray}
sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}&=&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{du}{1+u^4}\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^4}du\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^2}du=frac{pi}{4}sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}=infty.
end{eqnarray}$$
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Continuing with what you have done $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt$ tends to a finite positive limit as $n to infty$. Hence this the given sum is $geq delta sum frac 1 n$ for some $delta >0$ which makes the series divergent. In fact $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt geq int_0^{1} frac 1 2 dt =frac 1 2$.
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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oh nice fast and clear
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Observe that
$$begin{eqnarray}
sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}&=&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{du}{1+u^4}\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^4}du\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^2}du=frac{pi}{4}sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}=infty.
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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Jan 7 at 9:47
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Observe that
$$begin{eqnarray}
sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}&=&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{du}{1+u^4}\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^4}du\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^2}du=frac{pi}{4}sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}=infty.
end{eqnarray}$$
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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– Mather
Jan 7 at 9:47
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Observe that
$$begin{eqnarray}
sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}&=&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{du}{1+u^4}\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^4}du\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^2}du=frac{pi}{4}sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}=infty.
end{eqnarray}$$
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Observe that
$$begin{eqnarray}
sum_{n=1}^{infty}int_0^{1} frac{dx}{1+n^4x^4}&=&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{n} frac{du}{1+u^4}\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^4}du\&ge&sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{1}{n}int_0^{1} frac{1}{1+u^2}du=frac{pi}{4}sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}=infty.
end{eqnarray}$$
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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– Mather
Jan 7 at 9:47
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Really good solution did you use the fact that $ 0leq u leq 1 $ and so the function is greater in the second line ? so the integral is greater
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– Mather
Jan 7 at 9:47
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Sure I did :) I hope this helped you.
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Continuing with what you have done $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt$ tends to a finite positive limit as $n to infty$. Hence this the given sum is $geq delta sum frac 1 n$ for some $delta >0$ which makes the series divergent. In fact $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt geq int_0^{1} frac 1 2 dt =frac 1 2$.
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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– Mather
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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oh nice fast and clear
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Continuing with what you have done $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt$ tends to a finite positive limit as $n to infty$. Hence this the given sum is $geq delta sum frac 1 n$ for some $delta >0$ which makes the series divergent. In fact $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt geq int_0^{1} frac 1 2 dt =frac 1 2$.
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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– Mather
Jan 7 at 9:48
1
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 7 at 9:50
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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Jan 7 at 9:51
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oh nice fast and clear
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Continuing with what you have done $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt$ tends to a finite positive limit as $n to infty$. Hence this the given sum is $geq delta sum frac 1 n$ for some $delta >0$ which makes the series divergent. In fact $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt geq int_0^{1} frac 1 2 dt =frac 1 2$.
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Continuing with what you have done $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt$ tends to a finite positive limit as $n to infty$. Hence this the given sum is $geq delta sum frac 1 n$ for some $delta >0$ which makes the series divergent. In fact $ int_0^{n} frac 1 {1+t^{4}}dt geq int_0^{1} frac 1 2 dt =frac 1 2$.
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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oh nice fast and clear
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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oh nice fast and clear
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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thank you sir could you explain the last inequality i cant mark that as a solution too it wont let me
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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On $(0,1)$ we have $1+t^{4} <1+1=2$ so $frac 1 {1+t^{4}} >frac 1 2$.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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@Mather You can only accept one answer.
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oh nice fast and clear
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