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$bf 3.7 $ Theorem $ $ The subsequential limits of a sequence ${p_n}$ in a metric space $X$ form a closed subset of $X$.



Proof $ $ Let $E^*$ be the set of all subsequential limits of ${p_n}$ and let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$. We have to show that $qin E^*$.

$qquad$ Choose $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$. (If no such $n_1$ exists, then $E^*$ has only one point, and there is nothing to prove.) Put $delta=d(q,p_{n_1})$. Suppose $n_1,...,n_{i-1}$ are chosen. Since $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there is an $xin E^*$ with $d(x,q)<2^{-i}delta$. Since $xin E^*$, there is an $n_i>n_{i-1}$ such that $d(x,p_{n_i})<2^{-i}delta$. Thus $$d(q,p_{n_i})leq 2^{1-i}delta$$ for $i=1,2,3,...$. This says that ${p_{n_i}}$ converges to $q$. Hence $qin E^*$.




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    $bf 3.7 $ Theorem $ $ The subsequential limits of a sequence ${p_n}$ in a metric space $X$ form a closed subset of $X$.



    Proof $ $ Let $E^*$ be the set of all subsequential limits of ${p_n}$ and let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$. We have to show that $qin E^*$.

    $qquad$ Choose $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$. (If no such $n_1$ exists, then $E^*$ has only one point, and there is nothing to prove.) Put $delta=d(q,p_{n_1})$. Suppose $n_1,...,n_{i-1}$ are chosen. Since $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there is an $xin E^*$ with $d(x,q)<2^{-i}delta$. Since $xin E^*$, there is an $n_i>n_{i-1}$ such that $d(x,p_{n_i})<2^{-i}delta$. Thus $$d(q,p_{n_i})leq 2^{1-i}delta$$ for $i=1,2,3,...$. This says that ${p_{n_i}}$ converges to $q$. Hence $qin E^*$.




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      $bf 3.7 $ Theorem $ $ The subsequential limits of a sequence ${p_n}$ in a metric space $X$ form a closed subset of $X$.



      Proof $ $ Let $E^*$ be the set of all subsequential limits of ${p_n}$ and let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$. We have to show that $qin E^*$.

      $qquad$ Choose $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$. (If no such $n_1$ exists, then $E^*$ has only one point, and there is nothing to prove.) Put $delta=d(q,p_{n_1})$. Suppose $n_1,...,n_{i-1}$ are chosen. Since $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there is an $xin E^*$ with $d(x,q)<2^{-i}delta$. Since $xin E^*$, there is an $n_i>n_{i-1}$ such that $d(x,p_{n_i})<2^{-i}delta$. Thus $$d(q,p_{n_i})leq 2^{1-i}delta$$ for $i=1,2,3,...$. This says that ${p_{n_i}}$ converges to $q$. Hence $qin E^*$.




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      $bf 3.7 $ Theorem $ $ The subsequential limits of a sequence ${p_n}$ in a metric space $X$ form a closed subset of $X$.



      Proof $ $ Let $E^*$ be the set of all subsequential limits of ${p_n}$ and let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$. We have to show that $qin E^*$.

      $qquad$ Choose $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$. (If no such $n_1$ exists, then $E^*$ has only one point, and there is nothing to prove.) Put $delta=d(q,p_{n_1})$. Suppose $n_1,...,n_{i-1}$ are chosen. Since $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there is an $xin E^*$ with $d(x,q)<2^{-i}delta$. Since $xin E^*$, there is an $n_i>n_{i-1}$ such that $d(x,p_{n_i})<2^{-i}delta$. Thus $$d(q,p_{n_i})leq 2^{1-i}delta$$ for $i=1,2,3,...$. This says that ${p_{n_i}}$ converges to $q$. Hence $qin E^*$.




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          The sequence is choosen inductively. First he picks $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$ and set $delta = d(p_{n_1}, q)$. Then he consider $delta/2$. As $q$ is a limit point, there is $n_2$ (which can be chosen so that $n_2 > n_1$) so that



          $$d(p_{n_2}, q) < delta /2$$



          Inductively, he choose $n_k>n_{k-1}> cdots n_2 >n_1$ so that



          $$d(p_{n_i}, q)< frac{delta}{2^i}.$$






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            If $E^* = emptyset$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



            If $E^* = {q}$ for some $q in X$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



            We assume that $#E^* geq 2$.



            Let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$.



            If $p_n = q$ for all $n in {1,2,cdots}$, then any subsequence of ${p_n}$ converges to $q$. So $E^* = {q}$. But we assumed that $#E^* geq 2$. So there is $n_1 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $p_{n_1} neq q$.



            Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_2 in E^*$ such that $d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



            Because $x_2$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_2 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_2 > n_1$ and $d(p_{n_2}, x_2) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



            By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_2}, q) leq d(p_{n_2}, x_2) + d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2} + frac{delta}{2^2} = frac{delta}{2}$.



            Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_3 in E^*$ such that $d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



            Because $x_3$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_3 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_3 > n_2$ and $d(p_{n_3}, x_3) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



            By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_3}, q) leq d(p_{n_3}, x_3) + d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3} + frac{delta}{2^3} = frac{delta}{2^2}$.



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              The sequence is choosen inductively. First he picks $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$ and set $delta = d(p_{n_1}, q)$. Then he consider $delta/2$. As $q$ is a limit point, there is $n_2$ (which can be chosen so that $n_2 > n_1$) so that



              $$d(p_{n_2}, q) < delta /2$$



              Inductively, he choose $n_k>n_{k-1}> cdots n_2 >n_1$ so that



              $$d(p_{n_i}, q)< frac{delta}{2^i}.$$






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                The sequence is choosen inductively. First he picks $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$ and set $delta = d(p_{n_1}, q)$. Then he consider $delta/2$. As $q$ is a limit point, there is $n_2$ (which can be chosen so that $n_2 > n_1$) so that



                $$d(p_{n_2}, q) < delta /2$$



                Inductively, he choose $n_k>n_{k-1}> cdots n_2 >n_1$ so that



                $$d(p_{n_i}, q)< frac{delta}{2^i}.$$






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                  The sequence is choosen inductively. First he picks $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$ and set $delta = d(p_{n_1}, q)$. Then he consider $delta/2$. As $q$ is a limit point, there is $n_2$ (which can be chosen so that $n_2 > n_1$) so that



                  $$d(p_{n_2}, q) < delta /2$$



                  Inductively, he choose $n_k>n_{k-1}> cdots n_2 >n_1$ so that



                  $$d(p_{n_i}, q)< frac{delta}{2^i}.$$






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                  The sequence is choosen inductively. First he picks $n_1$ so that $p_{n_1}neq q$ and set $delta = d(p_{n_1}, q)$. Then he consider $delta/2$. As $q$ is a limit point, there is $n_2$ (which can be chosen so that $n_2 > n_1$) so that



                  $$d(p_{n_2}, q) < delta /2$$



                  Inductively, he choose $n_k>n_{k-1}> cdots n_2 >n_1$ so that



                  $$d(p_{n_i}, q)< frac{delta}{2^i}.$$







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                      If $E^* = emptyset$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                      If $E^* = {q}$ for some $q in X$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                      We assume that $#E^* geq 2$.



                      Let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$.



                      If $p_n = q$ for all $n in {1,2,cdots}$, then any subsequence of ${p_n}$ converges to $q$. So $E^* = {q}$. But we assumed that $#E^* geq 2$. So there is $n_1 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $p_{n_1} neq q$.



                      Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_2 in E^*$ such that $d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                      Because $x_2$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_2 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_2 > n_1$ and $d(p_{n_2}, x_2) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                      By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_2}, q) leq d(p_{n_2}, x_2) + d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2} + frac{delta}{2^2} = frac{delta}{2}$.



                      Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_3 in E^*$ such that $d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                      Because $x_3$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_3 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_3 > n_2$ and $d(p_{n_3}, x_3) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                      By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_3}, q) leq d(p_{n_3}, x_3) + d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3} + frac{delta}{2^3} = frac{delta}{2^2}$.



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                        If $E^* = emptyset$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                        If $E^* = {q}$ for some $q in X$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                        We assume that $#E^* geq 2$.



                        Let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$.



                        If $p_n = q$ for all $n in {1,2,cdots}$, then any subsequence of ${p_n}$ converges to $q$. So $E^* = {q}$. But we assumed that $#E^* geq 2$. So there is $n_1 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $p_{n_1} neq q$.



                        Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_2 in E^*$ such that $d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                        Because $x_2$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_2 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_2 > n_1$ and $d(p_{n_2}, x_2) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                        By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_2}, q) leq d(p_{n_2}, x_2) + d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2} + frac{delta}{2^2} = frac{delta}{2}$.



                        Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_3 in E^*$ such that $d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                        Because $x_3$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_3 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_3 > n_2$ and $d(p_{n_3}, x_3) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                        By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_3}, q) leq d(p_{n_3}, x_3) + d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3} + frac{delta}{2^3} = frac{delta}{2^2}$.



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                          If $E^* = emptyset$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                          If $E^* = {q}$ for some $q in X$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                          We assume that $#E^* geq 2$.



                          Let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$.



                          If $p_n = q$ for all $n in {1,2,cdots}$, then any subsequence of ${p_n}$ converges to $q$. So $E^* = {q}$. But we assumed that $#E^* geq 2$. So there is $n_1 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $p_{n_1} neq q$.



                          Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_2 in E^*$ such that $d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                          Because $x_2$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_2 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_2 > n_1$ and $d(p_{n_2}, x_2) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                          By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_2}, q) leq d(p_{n_2}, x_2) + d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2} + frac{delta}{2^2} = frac{delta}{2}$.



                          Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_3 in E^*$ such that $d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                          Because $x_3$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_3 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_3 > n_2$ and $d(p_{n_3}, x_3) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                          By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_3}, q) leq d(p_{n_3}, x_3) + d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3} + frac{delta}{2^3} = frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                          $cdots$






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                          If $E^* = emptyset$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                          If $E^* = {q}$ for some $q in X$, then $E^*$ is a closed subset of $X$.



                          We assume that $#E^* geq 2$.



                          Let $q$ be a limit point of $E^*$.



                          If $p_n = q$ for all $n in {1,2,cdots}$, then any subsequence of ${p_n}$ converges to $q$. So $E^* = {q}$. But we assumed that $#E^* geq 2$. So there is $n_1 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $p_{n_1} neq q$.



                          Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_2 in E^*$ such that $d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                          Because $x_2$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_2 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_2 > n_1$ and $d(p_{n_2}, x_2) < frac{delta}{2^2}$.



                          By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_2}, q) leq d(p_{n_2}, x_2) + d(x_2, q) < frac{delta}{2^2} + frac{delta}{2^2} = frac{delta}{2}$.



                          Because $q$ is a limit point of $E^*$, there exists $x_3 in E^*$ such that $d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                          Because $x_3$ is a subsequential limit of ${p_n}$, there exists $n_3 in {1,2,cdots}$ such that $n_3 > n_2$ and $d(p_{n_3}, x_3) < frac{delta}{2^3}$.



                          By the triangle equality in $X$, $d(p_{n_3}, q) leq d(p_{n_3}, x_3) + d(x_3, q) < frac{delta}{2^3} + frac{delta}{2^3} = frac{delta}{2^2}$.



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