Calculate $lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3x cos(x)}{x^3}right)^frac{1}{x}$












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This is an exercise from today's exam and I think I did something wrong:



Calculate the limit:



$$lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}.$$



To tackle this problem I used equivalent infinitesimals: $1-cos(x) sim frac{x^2}{2}$ as $(xto 0)$ and $sin(x)sim x$ as $(xto 0)$.



Then our limit:



$$begin{align}
lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x(1-cos(x))}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x frac{x^2}{2}}{x^3}right)^{1/x} \
&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}
end{align}$$



Now I split the limit to see what the effect of negative $x$ will be:



$lim_{xto 0^+}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=+infty$



$lim_{xto 0^-}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=0$



I graphed the function and the limit seems to be 1 from both sides.










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    This is an exercise from today's exam and I think I did something wrong:



    Calculate the limit:



    $$lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}.$$



    To tackle this problem I used equivalent infinitesimals: $1-cos(x) sim frac{x^2}{2}$ as $(xto 0)$ and $sin(x)sim x$ as $(xto 0)$.



    Then our limit:



    $$begin{align}
    lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
    &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x(1-cos(x))}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
    &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x frac{x^2}{2}}{x^3}right)^{1/x} \
    &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}
    end{align}$$



    Now I split the limit to see what the effect of negative $x$ will be:



    $lim_{xto 0^+}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=+infty$



    $lim_{xto 0^-}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=0$



    I graphed the function and the limit seems to be 1 from both sides.










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      $begingroup$


      This is an exercise from today's exam and I think I did something wrong:



      Calculate the limit:



      $$lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}.$$



      To tackle this problem I used equivalent infinitesimals: $1-cos(x) sim frac{x^2}{2}$ as $(xto 0)$ and $sin(x)sim x$ as $(xto 0)$.



      Then our limit:



      $$begin{align}
      lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x(1-cos(x))}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x frac{x^2}{2}}{x^3}right)^{1/x} \
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}
      end{align}$$



      Now I split the limit to see what the effect of negative $x$ will be:



      $lim_{xto 0^+}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=+infty$



      $lim_{xto 0^-}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=0$



      I graphed the function and the limit seems to be 1 from both sides.










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      This is an exercise from today's exam and I think I did something wrong:



      Calculate the limit:



      $$lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}.$$



      To tackle this problem I used equivalent infinitesimals: $1-cos(x) sim frac{x^2}{2}$ as $(xto 0)$ and $sin(x)sim x$ as $(xto 0)$.



      Then our limit:



      $$begin{align}
      lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3sin(x)-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x-3xcos(x)}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x(1-cos(x))}{x^3}right)^{1/x}\
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3x frac{x^2}{2}}{x^3}right)^{1/x} \
      &=lim_{xto 0}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}
      end{align}$$



      Now I split the limit to see what the effect of negative $x$ will be:



      $lim_{xto 0^+}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=+infty$



      $lim_{xto 0^-}left(frac{3}{2}right)^{1/x}=0$



      I graphed the function and the limit seems to be 1 from both sides.







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          $$3sin{x}-3xcos{x}=3left(x-frac{x^3}{6}+frac{x^5}{120}-...right)-3xleft(1-frac{x^2}{2}+frac{x^4}{24}-...right)=$$
          $$=x^3-frac{1}{10}x^5+...,$$
          which says that your limit is equal to $1$.






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            I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
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            Jan 17 at 22:14










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            @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
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            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:16












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            Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
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            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:28










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            Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:30










          • $begingroup$
            Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:42











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          $$3sin{x}-3xcos{x}=3left(x-frac{x^3}{6}+frac{x^5}{120}-...right)-3xleft(1-frac{x^2}{2}+frac{x^4}{24}-...right)=$$
          $$=x^3-frac{1}{10}x^5+...,$$
          which says that your limit is equal to $1$.






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          • $begingroup$
            I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
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            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:14










          • $begingroup$
            @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:16












          • $begingroup$
            Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:28










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:30










          • $begingroup$
            Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:42
















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          $begingroup$

          $$3sin{x}-3xcos{x}=3left(x-frac{x^3}{6}+frac{x^5}{120}-...right)-3xleft(1-frac{x^2}{2}+frac{x^4}{24}-...right)=$$
          $$=x^3-frac{1}{10}x^5+...,$$
          which says that your limit is equal to $1$.






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          • $begingroup$
            I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:14










          • $begingroup$
            @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:16












          • $begingroup$
            Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:28










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:30










          • $begingroup$
            Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:42














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          $$3sin{x}-3xcos{x}=3left(x-frac{x^3}{6}+frac{x^5}{120}-...right)-3xleft(1-frac{x^2}{2}+frac{x^4}{24}-...right)=$$
          $$=x^3-frac{1}{10}x^5+...,$$
          which says that your limit is equal to $1$.






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          $$3sin{x}-3xcos{x}=3left(x-frac{x^3}{6}+frac{x^5}{120}-...right)-3xleft(1-frac{x^2}{2}+frac{x^4}{24}-...right)=$$
          $$=x^3-frac{1}{10}x^5+...,$$
          which says that your limit is equal to $1$.







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          answered Jan 17 at 22:08









          Michael RozenbergMichael Rozenberg

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          • $begingroup$
            I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:14










          • $begingroup$
            @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:16












          • $begingroup$
            Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:28










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:30










          • $begingroup$
            Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:42


















          • $begingroup$
            I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:14










          • $begingroup$
            @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:16












          • $begingroup$
            Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:28










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael Rozenberg
            Jan 17 at 22:30










          • $begingroup$
            Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
            $endgroup$
            – user605734 MBS
            Jan 17 at 22:42
















          $begingroup$
          I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:14




          $begingroup$
          I didnt really want the answer, I wanted to know where is my procedure flawed
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:14












          $begingroup$
          @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jan 17 at 22:16






          $begingroup$
          @user605734 MBS You made mistake, when calculated the coefficient before $x^3$. You need to take more addend in the Taylor series for $sin$.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jan 17 at 22:16














          $begingroup$
          Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:28




          $begingroup$
          Is the method of changing sin(x) and 1-cos(x) with their respective equivalent infinitesimals valid in this limit?
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:28












          $begingroup$
          Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jan 17 at 22:30




          $begingroup$
          Yes, of course, it's works. But you need to take the right approximation.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jan 17 at 22:30












          $begingroup$
          Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:42




          $begingroup$
          Well I understand your answer but still I haven't found where my mistake lies
          $endgroup$
          – user605734 MBS
          Jan 17 at 22:42


















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