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I am currently reading some lecture notes on Ricci flow and am not sure how the following identity is derived:



$frac{partial}{partial t} bigg( g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} bigg) = 2bigg(R^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd} + g^{ij}R^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}+g^{ij}g^{kl}R^{ab}g^{cd} +g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}R^{cd}bigg)R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} :+:2<Rm,frac{partial}{partial t}Rm> $



I know there are identities for the time derivative of the Riemann tensor in general, but I don't quite follow how the author has gone from the time derivative to the right-hand side, could someone explain?










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    I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
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    – 0x539
    Jan 28 at 0:40










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    Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
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    Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
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    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 17:21
















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I am currently reading some lecture notes on Ricci flow and am not sure how the following identity is derived:



$frac{partial}{partial t} bigg( g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} bigg) = 2bigg(R^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd} + g^{ij}R^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}+g^{ij}g^{kl}R^{ab}g^{cd} +g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}R^{cd}bigg)R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} :+:2<Rm,frac{partial}{partial t}Rm> $



I know there are identities for the time derivative of the Riemann tensor in general, but I don't quite follow how the author has gone from the time derivative to the right-hand side, could someone explain?










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    I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
    $endgroup$
    – 0x539
    Jan 28 at 0:40










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    Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 17:21














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I am currently reading some lecture notes on Ricci flow and am not sure how the following identity is derived:



$frac{partial}{partial t} bigg( g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} bigg) = 2bigg(R^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd} + g^{ij}R^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}+g^{ij}g^{kl}R^{ab}g^{cd} +g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}R^{cd}bigg)R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} :+:2<Rm,frac{partial}{partial t}Rm> $



I know there are identities for the time derivative of the Riemann tensor in general, but I don't quite follow how the author has gone from the time derivative to the right-hand side, could someone explain?










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I am currently reading some lecture notes on Ricci flow and am not sure how the following identity is derived:



$frac{partial}{partial t} bigg( g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} bigg) = 2bigg(R^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd} + g^{ij}R^{kl}g^{ab}g^{cd}+g^{ij}g^{kl}R^{ab}g^{cd} +g^{ij}g^{kl}g^{ab}R^{cd}bigg)R_{ikac}R_{jlbd} :+:2<Rm,frac{partial}{partial t}Rm> $



I know there are identities for the time derivative of the Riemann tensor in general, but I don't quite follow how the author has gone from the time derivative to the right-hand side, could someone explain?







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  • $begingroup$
    I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
    $endgroup$
    – 0x539
    Jan 28 at 0:40










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 17:21


















  • $begingroup$
    I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
    $endgroup$
    – 0x539
    Jan 28 at 0:40










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
    $endgroup$
    – Tom
    Jan 28 at 17:21
















$begingroup$
I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
$endgroup$
– 0x539
Jan 28 at 0:40




$begingroup$
I think you have one excess $g^{ij}$ on the LHS and the first summand of the RHS - else sum convention doesn't work.
$endgroup$
– 0x539
Jan 28 at 0:40












$begingroup$
Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
$endgroup$
– Tom
Jan 28 at 16:19




$begingroup$
Yes, my mistake, I've corrected this. Are you now able to see where the identity comes from?
$endgroup$
– Tom
Jan 28 at 16:19












$begingroup$
Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
$endgroup$
– Tom
Jan 28 at 17:21




$begingroup$
Hang on, I've realised it now, you just apply the product rule repeatedly and the final term is due to the metric being symmetric.
$endgroup$
– Tom
Jan 28 at 17:21










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Apply the product rule repeatedly and use the fact that $frac{partial}{partial t}g^{ij}=2R^{ij}$. The final term arises from the fact that the metric is a symmetric form.






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