Find the distance from $(1, 1, 1)$ to the subspace span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$ of $mathbb R^3$.












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Consider $mathbb R
^3$
with the usual inner product. If d is the distance from $Q=(1, 1, 1)$ to the subspace $P$
span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$of $mathbb R
^3$

, then $ 3d
^2 $
= ?



Can anyone give me a hint? I can not understand what to do with the inner product. I know that I will get an orthogonal vector of $(1, 1, 1)$ in the subspace span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$.










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    Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
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    This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
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    @Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
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$begingroup$


Consider $mathbb R
^3$
with the usual inner product. If d is the distance from $Q=(1, 1, 1)$ to the subspace $P$
span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$of $mathbb R
^3$

, then $ 3d
^2 $
= ?



Can anyone give me a hint? I can not understand what to do with the inner product. I know that I will get an orthogonal vector of $(1, 1, 1)$ in the subspace span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$.










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    $begingroup$
    Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
    $endgroup$
    – Sqyuli
    Jan 25 at 7:07








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 25 at 7:13










  • $begingroup$
    @Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
    $endgroup$
    – cmi
    Jan 25 at 7:18














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$begingroup$


Consider $mathbb R
^3$
with the usual inner product. If d is the distance from $Q=(1, 1, 1)$ to the subspace $P$
span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$of $mathbb R
^3$

, then $ 3d
^2 $
= ?



Can anyone give me a hint? I can not understand what to do with the inner product. I know that I will get an orthogonal vector of $(1, 1, 1)$ in the subspace span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$.










share|cite|improve this question











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Consider $mathbb R
^3$
with the usual inner product. If d is the distance from $Q=(1, 1, 1)$ to the subspace $P$
span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$of $mathbb R
^3$

, then $ 3d
^2 $
= ?



Can anyone give me a hint? I can not understand what to do with the inner product. I know that I will get an orthogonal vector of $(1, 1, 1)$ in the subspace span ${(1, 1, 0), (0, 1, 1)}$.







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    $begingroup$
    Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
    $endgroup$
    – Sqyuli
    Jan 25 at 7:07








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 25 at 7:13










  • $begingroup$
    @Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
    $endgroup$
    – cmi
    Jan 25 at 7:18














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
    $endgroup$
    – Sqyuli
    Jan 25 at 7:07








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
    $endgroup$
    – Chinnapparaj R
    Jan 25 at 7:13










  • $begingroup$
    @Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
    $endgroup$
    – cmi
    Jan 25 at 7:18








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2




$begingroup$
Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
$endgroup$
– Sqyuli
Jan 25 at 7:07






$begingroup$
Your subspace is a plane inside the $mathbb{R}^3$. Actually you want to calculate the distance between a point and a plane. Does this help?
$endgroup$
– Sqyuli
Jan 25 at 7:07






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1




$begingroup$
This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
$endgroup$
– Chinnapparaj R
Jan 25 at 7:13




$begingroup$
This (math.stackexchange.com/questions/2101140/…) might help!
$endgroup$
– Chinnapparaj R
Jan 25 at 7:13












$begingroup$
@Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
$endgroup$
– cmi
Jan 25 at 7:18




$begingroup$
@Sqyuli Then I have to find the vector in that subspace which is orthogonal to (1,1,1)? Is not it?
$endgroup$
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Jan 25 at 7:18










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Note that the vector $(1, -1, 1)$ is orthogonal to both of these vectors. Now
$$
(1, 1, 1) = frac{2}{3}(1, 1, 0) + frac{2}{3}(0, 1, 1) + frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1).
$$

Hence the orthogonal projection is $frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1)$ and so $d$ is the length of this vector. Then $d^2 = 1/3$ and $3d^2 = 1$.






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    Project the vector onto the subspace. Subtract the result from $(1,1,1)$. Then compute the norm.



    If you're familiar with Gram-Schmidt, it's basically the same.



    First I need to get an orthogonal basis for $P$: $(1,1,0)-frac12(0,1,1)=(1,frac12,-frac12)$.



    So, we get $(1,1,1)-(0,1,1)-frac23(1,frac12, -frac12) =(frac13,-frac13,frac13) $.



    Now the norm is $d=sqrt{frac13}$.



    So $3d^2=1 $.






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      Note that the vector $(1, -1, 1)$ is orthogonal to both of these vectors. Now
      $$
      (1, 1, 1) = frac{2}{3}(1, 1, 0) + frac{2}{3}(0, 1, 1) + frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1).
      $$

      Hence the orthogonal projection is $frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1)$ and so $d$ is the length of this vector. Then $d^2 = 1/3$ and $3d^2 = 1$.






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        Note that the vector $(1, -1, 1)$ is orthogonal to both of these vectors. Now
        $$
        (1, 1, 1) = frac{2}{3}(1, 1, 0) + frac{2}{3}(0, 1, 1) + frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1).
        $$

        Hence the orthogonal projection is $frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1)$ and so $d$ is the length of this vector. Then $d^2 = 1/3$ and $3d^2 = 1$.






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          Note that the vector $(1, -1, 1)$ is orthogonal to both of these vectors. Now
          $$
          (1, 1, 1) = frac{2}{3}(1, 1, 0) + frac{2}{3}(0, 1, 1) + frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1).
          $$

          Hence the orthogonal projection is $frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1)$ and so $d$ is the length of this vector. Then $d^2 = 1/3$ and $3d^2 = 1$.






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          Note that the vector $(1, -1, 1)$ is orthogonal to both of these vectors. Now
          $$
          (1, 1, 1) = frac{2}{3}(1, 1, 0) + frac{2}{3}(0, 1, 1) + frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1).
          $$

          Hence the orthogonal projection is $frac{1}{3}(1, -1, 1)$ and so $d$ is the length of this vector. Then $d^2 = 1/3$ and $3d^2 = 1$.







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              Project the vector onto the subspace. Subtract the result from $(1,1,1)$. Then compute the norm.



              If you're familiar with Gram-Schmidt, it's basically the same.



              First I need to get an orthogonal basis for $P$: $(1,1,0)-frac12(0,1,1)=(1,frac12,-frac12)$.



              So, we get $(1,1,1)-(0,1,1)-frac23(1,frac12, -frac12) =(frac13,-frac13,frac13) $.



              Now the norm is $d=sqrt{frac13}$.



              So $3d^2=1 $.






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                $begingroup$

                Project the vector onto the subspace. Subtract the result from $(1,1,1)$. Then compute the norm.



                If you're familiar with Gram-Schmidt, it's basically the same.



                First I need to get an orthogonal basis for $P$: $(1,1,0)-frac12(0,1,1)=(1,frac12,-frac12)$.



                So, we get $(1,1,1)-(0,1,1)-frac23(1,frac12, -frac12) =(frac13,-frac13,frac13) $.



                Now the norm is $d=sqrt{frac13}$.



                So $3d^2=1 $.






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                  $begingroup$

                  Project the vector onto the subspace. Subtract the result from $(1,1,1)$. Then compute the norm.



                  If you're familiar with Gram-Schmidt, it's basically the same.



                  First I need to get an orthogonal basis for $P$: $(1,1,0)-frac12(0,1,1)=(1,frac12,-frac12)$.



                  So, we get $(1,1,1)-(0,1,1)-frac23(1,frac12, -frac12) =(frac13,-frac13,frac13) $.



                  Now the norm is $d=sqrt{frac13}$.



                  So $3d^2=1 $.






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                  Project the vector onto the subspace. Subtract the result from $(1,1,1)$. Then compute the norm.



                  If you're familiar with Gram-Schmidt, it's basically the same.



                  First I need to get an orthogonal basis for $P$: $(1,1,0)-frac12(0,1,1)=(1,frac12,-frac12)$.



                  So, we get $(1,1,1)-(0,1,1)-frac23(1,frac12, -frac12) =(frac13,-frac13,frac13) $.



                  Now the norm is $d=sqrt{frac13}$.



                  So $3d^2=1 $.







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