Integral of the product of Bessel functions of different kinds, but with same argument












1












$begingroup$


I am looking to finding the solution to indefinite integrals
begin{align}
int z J_m(a z) Y_m(a z), text{d}z,
end{align}

and
begin{align}
int z I_m(a z) K_m(a z), text{d}z
end{align}



I know that there are solutions to these when the arguments of these Bessel functions are different, such as the solution posted in Integral of Product of Bessel functions of different kind.
Those solutions, though, are singular when the arguments are the same, as is the case I am asking for here.



Are there any ways to get a solution for these integrals? We can assume that $m$ is an integer.










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$

















    1












    $begingroup$


    I am looking to finding the solution to indefinite integrals
    begin{align}
    int z J_m(a z) Y_m(a z), text{d}z,
    end{align}

    and
    begin{align}
    int z I_m(a z) K_m(a z), text{d}z
    end{align}



    I know that there are solutions to these when the arguments of these Bessel functions are different, such as the solution posted in Integral of Product of Bessel functions of different kind.
    Those solutions, though, are singular when the arguments are the same, as is the case I am asking for here.



    Are there any ways to get a solution for these integrals? We can assume that $m$ is an integer.










    share|cite|improve this question









    $endgroup$















      1












      1








      1





      $begingroup$


      I am looking to finding the solution to indefinite integrals
      begin{align}
      int z J_m(a z) Y_m(a z), text{d}z,
      end{align}

      and
      begin{align}
      int z I_m(a z) K_m(a z), text{d}z
      end{align}



      I know that there are solutions to these when the arguments of these Bessel functions are different, such as the solution posted in Integral of Product of Bessel functions of different kind.
      Those solutions, though, are singular when the arguments are the same, as is the case I am asking for here.



      Are there any ways to get a solution for these integrals? We can assume that $m$ is an integer.










      share|cite|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      I am looking to finding the solution to indefinite integrals
      begin{align}
      int z J_m(a z) Y_m(a z), text{d}z,
      end{align}

      and
      begin{align}
      int z I_m(a z) K_m(a z), text{d}z
      end{align}



      I know that there are solutions to these when the arguments of these Bessel functions are different, such as the solution posted in Integral of Product of Bessel functions of different kind.
      Those solutions, though, are singular when the arguments are the same, as is the case I am asking for here.



      Are there any ways to get a solution for these integrals? We can assume that $m$ is an integer.







      integration special-functions bessel-functions






      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question











      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question










      asked Jan 27 at 22:54









      K LK L

      436




      436






















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          1












          $begingroup$

          We begin with the indefinite integral



          $$begin{align}
          int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
          beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
          {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag1
          end{align}
          $$



          for $alpha ne beta$ where $Z_m$ and $B_m$ are arbitrary Bessel functions.



          While the left-hand side $(1)$ is well-behaved for $alpha=beta$, the right-hand side is not of indeterminate form. The apparent discrepancy is reconciled by remembering that $(1)$ is an indefinite integral. Addition of an appropriate constant with respect to $z$ to the right-hand side of $(1)$ results in an indeterminate form.



          Let $V$ be defined by the limit



          $$begin{align}
          V&=lim_{alphatobeta}left(beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
          {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)right)\\
          &=beta z left(Z_{m}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)- Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_m(beta z)right)tag2
          end{align}$$



          The following Wronskians hold:



          $$begin{align}
          J_{m}(beta z)Y_{m-1}(beta z)- J_{m-1}(beta z)Y_m(beta z)&=2/(pi beta z)tag{3a}\\
          H_{m}^{(1)}(beta z)H_{m-1}^{(2)}(beta z)- H_{m-1}^{(1)}(beta z)H_m^{(2)}(beta z)&=-4i/(pi beta z)tag{3b}
          end{align}$$



          Given $(3a)$ and $(3b)$, it is evident that $V$, as given on the right-hand side of $(2)$, is independent of $z$. Hence, we subtract $V$ from the numerator of $(1)$ and obtain



          $$begin{align}
          int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
          beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
          {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)-V}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag4
          end{align}
          $$



          which is clearly of indeterminate form.



          It is left as an exercise for the reader to evaluate the limit as $alphato beta$ of $(4)$ using L'Hospital's Rule to obtain the result



          $$begin{align}
          int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz&=frac12 z^2left(Z_m(beta z)B_m(beta z)-Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)right)\\&-frac{mz}{2beta}left(Z_m(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)+Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m}(beta z)right)
          end{align}
          $$






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













            Your Answer





            StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
            return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
            StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
            StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
            });
            });
            }, "mathjax-editing");

            StackExchange.ready(function() {
            var channelOptions = {
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "69"
            };
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
            createEditor();
            });
            }
            else {
            createEditor();
            }
            });

            function createEditor() {
            StackExchange.prepareEditor({
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
            convertImagesToLinks: true,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: 10,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader: {
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            },
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            });


            }
            });














            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3090226%2fintegral-of-the-product-of-bessel-functions-of-different-kinds-but-with-same-ar%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            1 Answer
            1






            active

            oldest

            votes








            1 Answer
            1






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes









            1












            $begingroup$

            We begin with the indefinite integral



            $$begin{align}
            int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
            beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
            {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag1
            end{align}
            $$



            for $alpha ne beta$ where $Z_m$ and $B_m$ are arbitrary Bessel functions.



            While the left-hand side $(1)$ is well-behaved for $alpha=beta$, the right-hand side is not of indeterminate form. The apparent discrepancy is reconciled by remembering that $(1)$ is an indefinite integral. Addition of an appropriate constant with respect to $z$ to the right-hand side of $(1)$ results in an indeterminate form.



            Let $V$ be defined by the limit



            $$begin{align}
            V&=lim_{alphatobeta}left(beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
            {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)right)\\
            &=beta z left(Z_{m}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)- Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_m(beta z)right)tag2
            end{align}$$



            The following Wronskians hold:



            $$begin{align}
            J_{m}(beta z)Y_{m-1}(beta z)- J_{m-1}(beta z)Y_m(beta z)&=2/(pi beta z)tag{3a}\\
            H_{m}^{(1)}(beta z)H_{m-1}^{(2)}(beta z)- H_{m-1}^{(1)}(beta z)H_m^{(2)}(beta z)&=-4i/(pi beta z)tag{3b}
            end{align}$$



            Given $(3a)$ and $(3b)$, it is evident that $V$, as given on the right-hand side of $(2)$, is independent of $z$. Hence, we subtract $V$ from the numerator of $(1)$ and obtain



            $$begin{align}
            int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
            beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
            {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)-V}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag4
            end{align}
            $$



            which is clearly of indeterminate form.



            It is left as an exercise for the reader to evaluate the limit as $alphato beta$ of $(4)$ using L'Hospital's Rule to obtain the result



            $$begin{align}
            int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz&=frac12 z^2left(Z_m(beta z)B_m(beta z)-Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)right)\\&-frac{mz}{2beta}left(Z_m(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)+Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m}(beta z)right)
            end{align}
            $$






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$


















              1












              $begingroup$

              We begin with the indefinite integral



              $$begin{align}
              int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
              beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
              {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag1
              end{align}
              $$



              for $alpha ne beta$ where $Z_m$ and $B_m$ are arbitrary Bessel functions.



              While the left-hand side $(1)$ is well-behaved for $alpha=beta$, the right-hand side is not of indeterminate form. The apparent discrepancy is reconciled by remembering that $(1)$ is an indefinite integral. Addition of an appropriate constant with respect to $z$ to the right-hand side of $(1)$ results in an indeterminate form.



              Let $V$ be defined by the limit



              $$begin{align}
              V&=lim_{alphatobeta}left(beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
              {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)right)\\
              &=beta z left(Z_{m}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)- Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_m(beta z)right)tag2
              end{align}$$



              The following Wronskians hold:



              $$begin{align}
              J_{m}(beta z)Y_{m-1}(beta z)- J_{m-1}(beta z)Y_m(beta z)&=2/(pi beta z)tag{3a}\\
              H_{m}^{(1)}(beta z)H_{m-1}^{(2)}(beta z)- H_{m-1}^{(1)}(beta z)H_m^{(2)}(beta z)&=-4i/(pi beta z)tag{3b}
              end{align}$$



              Given $(3a)$ and $(3b)$, it is evident that $V$, as given on the right-hand side of $(2)$, is independent of $z$. Hence, we subtract $V$ from the numerator of $(1)$ and obtain



              $$begin{align}
              int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
              beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
              {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)-V}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag4
              end{align}
              $$



              which is clearly of indeterminate form.



              It is left as an exercise for the reader to evaluate the limit as $alphato beta$ of $(4)$ using L'Hospital's Rule to obtain the result



              $$begin{align}
              int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz&=frac12 z^2left(Z_m(beta z)B_m(beta z)-Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)right)\\&-frac{mz}{2beta}left(Z_m(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)+Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m}(beta z)right)
              end{align}
              $$






              share|cite|improve this answer











              $endgroup$
















                1












                1








                1





                $begingroup$

                We begin with the indefinite integral



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
                beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag1
                end{align}
                $$



                for $alpha ne beta$ where $Z_m$ and $B_m$ are arbitrary Bessel functions.



                While the left-hand side $(1)$ is well-behaved for $alpha=beta$, the right-hand side is not of indeterminate form. The apparent discrepancy is reconciled by remembering that $(1)$ is an indefinite integral. Addition of an appropriate constant with respect to $z$ to the right-hand side of $(1)$ results in an indeterminate form.



                Let $V$ be defined by the limit



                $$begin{align}
                V&=lim_{alphatobeta}left(beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)right)\\
                &=beta z left(Z_{m}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)- Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_m(beta z)right)tag2
                end{align}$$



                The following Wronskians hold:



                $$begin{align}
                J_{m}(beta z)Y_{m-1}(beta z)- J_{m-1}(beta z)Y_m(beta z)&=2/(pi beta z)tag{3a}\\
                H_{m}^{(1)}(beta z)H_{m-1}^{(2)}(beta z)- H_{m-1}^{(1)}(beta z)H_m^{(2)}(beta z)&=-4i/(pi beta z)tag{3b}
                end{align}$$



                Given $(3a)$ and $(3b)$, it is evident that $V$, as given on the right-hand side of $(2)$, is independent of $z$. Hence, we subtract $V$ from the numerator of $(1)$ and obtain



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
                beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)-V}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag4
                end{align}
                $$



                which is clearly of indeterminate form.



                It is left as an exercise for the reader to evaluate the limit as $alphato beta$ of $(4)$ using L'Hospital's Rule to obtain the result



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz&=frac12 z^2left(Z_m(beta z)B_m(beta z)-Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)right)\\&-frac{mz}{2beta}left(Z_m(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)+Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m}(beta z)right)
                end{align}
                $$






                share|cite|improve this answer











                $endgroup$



                We begin with the indefinite integral



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
                beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag1
                end{align}
                $$



                for $alpha ne beta$ where $Z_m$ and $B_m$ are arbitrary Bessel functions.



                While the left-hand side $(1)$ is well-behaved for $alpha=beta$, the right-hand side is not of indeterminate form. The apparent discrepancy is reconciled by remembering that $(1)$ is an indefinite integral. Addition of an appropriate constant with respect to $z$ to the right-hand side of $(1)$ results in an indeterminate form.



                Let $V$ be defined by the limit



                $$begin{align}
                V&=lim_{alphatobeta}left(beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)right)\\
                &=beta z left(Z_{m}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)- Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_m(beta z)right)tag2
                end{align}$$



                The following Wronskians hold:



                $$begin{align}
                J_{m}(beta z)Y_{m-1}(beta z)- J_{m-1}(beta z)Y_m(beta z)&=2/(pi beta z)tag{3a}\\
                H_{m}^{(1)}(beta z)H_{m-1}^{(2)}(beta z)- H_{m-1}^{(1)}(beta z)H_m^{(2)}(beta z)&=-4i/(pi beta z)tag{3b}
                end{align}$$



                Given $(3a)$ and $(3b)$, it is evident that $V$, as given on the right-hand side of $(2)$, is independent of $z$. Hence, we subtract $V$ from the numerator of $(1)$ and obtain



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz=frac{
                beta z Z_{m}(alpha z)B_{m-1}(beta z)-alpha z Z_
                {m-1}(alpha z)B_m(beta z)-V}{alpha^{2}-beta^{2}}tag4
                end{align}
                $$



                which is clearly of indeterminate form.



                It is left as an exercise for the reader to evaluate the limit as $alphato beta$ of $(4)$ using L'Hospital's Rule to obtain the result



                $$begin{align}
                int z Z_m(alpha z)B_m(beta z),dz&=frac12 z^2left(Z_m(beta z)B_m(beta z)-Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)right)\\&-frac{mz}{2beta}left(Z_m(beta z)B_{m-1}(beta z)+Z_{m-1}(beta z)B_{m}(beta z)right)
                end{align}
                $$







                share|cite|improve this answer














                share|cite|improve this answer



                share|cite|improve this answer








                edited Jan 28 at 2:27

























                answered Jan 28 at 0:36









                Mark ViolaMark Viola

                134k1278176




                134k1278176






























                    draft saved

                    draft discarded




















































                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid



                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                    draft saved


                    draft discarded














                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function () {
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3090226%2fintegral-of-the-product-of-bessel-functions-of-different-kinds-but-with-same-ar%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                    }
                    );

                    Post as a guest















                    Required, but never shown





















































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown

































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown







                    Popular posts from this blog

                    MongoDB - Not Authorized To Execute Command

                    How to fix TextFormField cause rebuild widget in Flutter

                    in spring boot 2.1 many test slices are not allowed anymore due to multiple @BootstrapWith