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Given the sum of the first 4 terms of the arithmetic progression,it equals to 124. Also given the sum of last 4 terms of the progression, it equals to 156. If the sum of arithmetic progression equal to 490, how many terms have arithmetic progression?
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Given the sum of the first 4 terms of the arithmetic progression,it equals to 124. Also given the sum of last 4 terms of the progression, it equals to 156. If the sum of arithmetic progression equal to 490, how many terms have arithmetic progression?
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Interesting question! (+1). See alternative approach and much shorter solution posted below.
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With $;n,a_1,d;$ the number of elements, first element and common difference respectively, the following is what you're given



$$begin{align*}&frac42left(2a_1+3dright)=124implies 2a_1+3d=62\{}\&frac42left(a_{n-3}+3dright)=156implies a_{n-3}+3d=78\{}\&frac n2left(2a_1+(n-1)dright)=290end{align*}$$



You have three equations and three unknowns. Observe that $;a_{n-3}=a_1+d(n-4);$ ...






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    If there are $n$ terms with the first term, common difference being $a,d$ respectively,



    we have $$124=dfrac42{2a+(4-1)d}iff2a+3d=62 (1)$$



    and $$156=dfrac42{a+(n-1)d+3(-d)}iff78=a+(n-4)d (2)$$



    Adding we get $$62+78=2a+(n-1)d$$



    Finally, $$490=dfrac n2{2a+(n-1)d} (3)$$



    $$implies490=dfrac n2cdot(62+78)iff n=?$$



    Generalization: Find $a,d$ in terms of $n$ from $(1),(2)$ and replace the values in $(3)$






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      Here's an alternative and much shorter approach.



      Note that the sum of groups of $m$ terms of an AP form another AP.



      For the question given, use $m=4$.



      Let $N$ be the number of terms of the new AP, of which the first term is $124$ and the last term $156$. Using the formula for an AP sum, we have



      $$290=frac N2 (124+156);;Rightarrow
      N=frac 72$$
      For the original AP,



      $$n=Nm=frac 72cdot 4=color{red}{14}$$



      i.e. there are $14$ terms in the original AP.





      Check



      As a check, by substitution of $n=14$ into standard AP formulas, one can easily show that $a=29.8$ and $d=0.8$. The AP is



      $$
      underbrace{underbrace{29.8,;;
      30.6,;;
      31.4,;;
      32.2}_{Sigma=124},;;
      33.0,;;
      33.8,;;
      34.6,;;
      35.4,;;
      36.2,;;
      37.0,;;
      underbrace{37.8,;;
      38.6,;;
      39.4,;;
      40.2}_{Sigma=156}}_{Sigma=490}$$






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        With $;n,a_1,d;$ the number of elements, first element and common difference respectively, the following is what you're given



        $$begin{align*}&frac42left(2a_1+3dright)=124implies 2a_1+3d=62\{}\&frac42left(a_{n-3}+3dright)=156implies a_{n-3}+3d=78\{}\&frac n2left(2a_1+(n-1)dright)=290end{align*}$$



        You have three equations and three unknowns. Observe that $;a_{n-3}=a_1+d(n-4);$ ...






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          With $;n,a_1,d;$ the number of elements, first element and common difference respectively, the following is what you're given



          $$begin{align*}&frac42left(2a_1+3dright)=124implies 2a_1+3d=62\{}\&frac42left(a_{n-3}+3dright)=156implies a_{n-3}+3d=78\{}\&frac n2left(2a_1+(n-1)dright)=290end{align*}$$



          You have three equations and three unknowns. Observe that $;a_{n-3}=a_1+d(n-4);$ ...






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            With $;n,a_1,d;$ the number of elements, first element and common difference respectively, the following is what you're given



            $$begin{align*}&frac42left(2a_1+3dright)=124implies 2a_1+3d=62\{}\&frac42left(a_{n-3}+3dright)=156implies a_{n-3}+3d=78\{}\&frac n2left(2a_1+(n-1)dright)=290end{align*}$$



            You have three equations and three unknowns. Observe that $;a_{n-3}=a_1+d(n-4);$ ...






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            With $;n,a_1,d;$ the number of elements, first element and common difference respectively, the following is what you're given



            $$begin{align*}&frac42left(2a_1+3dright)=124implies 2a_1+3d=62\{}\&frac42left(a_{n-3}+3dright)=156implies a_{n-3}+3d=78\{}\&frac n2left(2a_1+(n-1)dright)=290end{align*}$$



            You have three equations and three unknowns. Observe that $;a_{n-3}=a_1+d(n-4);$ ...







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                If there are $n$ terms with the first term, common difference being $a,d$ respectively,



                we have $$124=dfrac42{2a+(4-1)d}iff2a+3d=62 (1)$$



                and $$156=dfrac42{a+(n-1)d+3(-d)}iff78=a+(n-4)d (2)$$



                Adding we get $$62+78=2a+(n-1)d$$



                Finally, $$490=dfrac n2{2a+(n-1)d} (3)$$



                $$implies490=dfrac n2cdot(62+78)iff n=?$$



                Generalization: Find $a,d$ in terms of $n$ from $(1),(2)$ and replace the values in $(3)$






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                  If there are $n$ terms with the first term, common difference being $a,d$ respectively,



                  we have $$124=dfrac42{2a+(4-1)d}iff2a+3d=62 (1)$$



                  and $$156=dfrac42{a+(n-1)d+3(-d)}iff78=a+(n-4)d (2)$$



                  Adding we get $$62+78=2a+(n-1)d$$



                  Finally, $$490=dfrac n2{2a+(n-1)d} (3)$$



                  $$implies490=dfrac n2cdot(62+78)iff n=?$$



                  Generalization: Find $a,d$ in terms of $n$ from $(1),(2)$ and replace the values in $(3)$






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                    If there are $n$ terms with the first term, common difference being $a,d$ respectively,



                    we have $$124=dfrac42{2a+(4-1)d}iff2a+3d=62 (1)$$



                    and $$156=dfrac42{a+(n-1)d+3(-d)}iff78=a+(n-4)d (2)$$



                    Adding we get $$62+78=2a+(n-1)d$$



                    Finally, $$490=dfrac n2{2a+(n-1)d} (3)$$



                    $$implies490=dfrac n2cdot(62+78)iff n=?$$



                    Generalization: Find $a,d$ in terms of $n$ from $(1),(2)$ and replace the values in $(3)$






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                    If there are $n$ terms with the first term, common difference being $a,d$ respectively,



                    we have $$124=dfrac42{2a+(4-1)d}iff2a+3d=62 (1)$$



                    and $$156=dfrac42{a+(n-1)d+3(-d)}iff78=a+(n-4)d (2)$$



                    Adding we get $$62+78=2a+(n-1)d$$



                    Finally, $$490=dfrac n2{2a+(n-1)d} (3)$$



                    $$implies490=dfrac n2cdot(62+78)iff n=?$$



                    Generalization: Find $a,d$ in terms of $n$ from $(1),(2)$ and replace the values in $(3)$







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                        Here's an alternative and much shorter approach.



                        Note that the sum of groups of $m$ terms of an AP form another AP.



                        For the question given, use $m=4$.



                        Let $N$ be the number of terms of the new AP, of which the first term is $124$ and the last term $156$. Using the formula for an AP sum, we have



                        $$290=frac N2 (124+156);;Rightarrow
                        N=frac 72$$
                        For the original AP,



                        $$n=Nm=frac 72cdot 4=color{red}{14}$$



                        i.e. there are $14$ terms in the original AP.





                        Check



                        As a check, by substitution of $n=14$ into standard AP formulas, one can easily show that $a=29.8$ and $d=0.8$. The AP is



                        $$
                        underbrace{underbrace{29.8,;;
                        30.6,;;
                        31.4,;;
                        32.2}_{Sigma=124},;;
                        33.0,;;
                        33.8,;;
                        34.6,;;
                        35.4,;;
                        36.2,;;
                        37.0,;;
                        underbrace{37.8,;;
                        38.6,;;
                        39.4,;;
                        40.2}_{Sigma=156}}_{Sigma=490}$$






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                          Here's an alternative and much shorter approach.



                          Note that the sum of groups of $m$ terms of an AP form another AP.



                          For the question given, use $m=4$.



                          Let $N$ be the number of terms of the new AP, of which the first term is $124$ and the last term $156$. Using the formula for an AP sum, we have



                          $$290=frac N2 (124+156);;Rightarrow
                          N=frac 72$$
                          For the original AP,



                          $$n=Nm=frac 72cdot 4=color{red}{14}$$



                          i.e. there are $14$ terms in the original AP.





                          Check



                          As a check, by substitution of $n=14$ into standard AP formulas, one can easily show that $a=29.8$ and $d=0.8$. The AP is



                          $$
                          underbrace{underbrace{29.8,;;
                          30.6,;;
                          31.4,;;
                          32.2}_{Sigma=124},;;
                          33.0,;;
                          33.8,;;
                          34.6,;;
                          35.4,;;
                          36.2,;;
                          37.0,;;
                          underbrace{37.8,;;
                          38.6,;;
                          39.4,;;
                          40.2}_{Sigma=156}}_{Sigma=490}$$






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                            Here's an alternative and much shorter approach.



                            Note that the sum of groups of $m$ terms of an AP form another AP.



                            For the question given, use $m=4$.



                            Let $N$ be the number of terms of the new AP, of which the first term is $124$ and the last term $156$. Using the formula for an AP sum, we have



                            $$290=frac N2 (124+156);;Rightarrow
                            N=frac 72$$
                            For the original AP,



                            $$n=Nm=frac 72cdot 4=color{red}{14}$$



                            i.e. there are $14$ terms in the original AP.





                            Check



                            As a check, by substitution of $n=14$ into standard AP formulas, one can easily show that $a=29.8$ and $d=0.8$. The AP is



                            $$
                            underbrace{underbrace{29.8,;;
                            30.6,;;
                            31.4,;;
                            32.2}_{Sigma=124},;;
                            33.0,;;
                            33.8,;;
                            34.6,;;
                            35.4,;;
                            36.2,;;
                            37.0,;;
                            underbrace{37.8,;;
                            38.6,;;
                            39.4,;;
                            40.2}_{Sigma=156}}_{Sigma=490}$$






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                            Here's an alternative and much shorter approach.



                            Note that the sum of groups of $m$ terms of an AP form another AP.



                            For the question given, use $m=4$.



                            Let $N$ be the number of terms of the new AP, of which the first term is $124$ and the last term $156$. Using the formula for an AP sum, we have



                            $$290=frac N2 (124+156);;Rightarrow
                            N=frac 72$$
                            For the original AP,



                            $$n=Nm=frac 72cdot 4=color{red}{14}$$



                            i.e. there are $14$ terms in the original AP.





                            Check



                            As a check, by substitution of $n=14$ into standard AP formulas, one can easily show that $a=29.8$ and $d=0.8$. The AP is



                            $$
                            underbrace{underbrace{29.8,;;
                            30.6,;;
                            31.4,;;
                            32.2}_{Sigma=124},;;
                            33.0,;;
                            33.8,;;
                            34.6,;;
                            35.4,;;
                            36.2,;;
                            37.0,;;
                            underbrace{37.8,;;
                            38.6,;;
                            39.4,;;
                            40.2}_{Sigma=156}}_{Sigma=490}$$







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