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Let the function f(x,y,z) be differentiable at a point P. The maximum value of the directional derivative of f at P is 6 and the direction of v=(1,1,-1). Find the the gradient vector of f at P.










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    Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
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    Yes, I know the relation between them.
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    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:34






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    Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
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    Yeah, thank you for that
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I couldn't find the solution of this question, can you help me, please?



Let the function f(x,y,z) be differentiable at a point P. The maximum value of the directional derivative of f at P is 6 and the direction of v=(1,1,-1). Find the the gradient vector of f at P.










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    Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
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    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:32










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I know the relation between them.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:34






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    $begingroup$
    Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
    $endgroup$
    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yeah, thank you for that
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:44














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I couldn't find the solution of this question, can you help me, please?



Let the function f(x,y,z) be differentiable at a point P. The maximum value of the directional derivative of f at P is 6 and the direction of v=(1,1,-1). Find the the gradient vector of f at P.










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Let the function f(x,y,z) be differentiable at a point P. The maximum value of the directional derivative of f at P is 6 and the direction of v=(1,1,-1). Find the the gradient vector of f at P.







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    Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
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    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:32










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I know the relation between them.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:34






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
    $endgroup$
    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yeah, thank you for that
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:44














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
    $endgroup$
    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:32










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I know the relation between them.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:34






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
    $endgroup$
    – Ian
    Jan 12 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yeah, thank you for that
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:44








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$begingroup$
Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
$endgroup$
– Ian
Jan 12 at 19:32




$begingroup$
Do you know the relation between the directional derivative and the gradient?
$endgroup$
– Ian
Jan 12 at 19:32












$begingroup$
Yes, I know the relation between them.
$endgroup$
– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:34




$begingroup$
Yes, I know the relation between them.
$endgroup$
– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:34




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1




$begingroup$
Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
$endgroup$
– Ian
Jan 12 at 19:36






$begingroup$
Knowing that and the bound $-| x | | y | leq x cdot y leq | x | | y |$ (called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality), you can finish the problem.
$endgroup$
– Ian
Jan 12 at 19:36














$begingroup$
Yeah, thank you for that
$endgroup$
– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:44




$begingroup$
Yeah, thank you for that
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– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:44










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The gradient is the vector pointed in the direction of maximum ascent, and its size is the rate at which the function is ascending. With that definition, you can see that we have all the information we need.



We have the direction of maximum ascent: $$(1,1,-1).$$
A unit vector in that direction is $$(1,1,-1)/sqrt{3}.$$ And we know the rate of ascent is $6$; therefore, the gradient is $$left(6/sqrt{3}right)(1,1,-1).$$






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    Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
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    @irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
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    @NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
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The gradient is the vector pointed in the direction of maximum ascent, and its size is the rate at which the function is ascending. With that definition, you can see that we have all the information we need.



We have the direction of maximum ascent: $$(1,1,-1).$$
A unit vector in that direction is $$(1,1,-1)/sqrt{3}.$$ And we know the rate of ascent is $6$; therefore, the gradient is $$left(6/sqrt{3}right)(1,1,-1).$$






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    Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:36










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    @irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
    $endgroup$
    – NicNic8
    Jan 12 at 19:36








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    @NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
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    – irchans
    Jan 12 at 19:46






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    And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
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    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:53
















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$begingroup$

The gradient is the vector pointed in the direction of maximum ascent, and its size is the rate at which the function is ascending. With that definition, you can see that we have all the information we need.



We have the direction of maximum ascent: $$(1,1,-1).$$
A unit vector in that direction is $$(1,1,-1)/sqrt{3}.$$ And we know the rate of ascent is $6$; therefore, the gradient is $$left(6/sqrt{3}right)(1,1,-1).$$






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    Give a man a fish, ....
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    – irchans
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  • $begingroup$
    Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:36










  • $begingroup$
    @irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
    $endgroup$
    – NicNic8
    Jan 12 at 19:36








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    $begingroup$
    @NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
    $endgroup$
    – irchans
    Jan 12 at 19:46






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    $begingroup$
    And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:53














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The gradient is the vector pointed in the direction of maximum ascent, and its size is the rate at which the function is ascending. With that definition, you can see that we have all the information we need.



We have the direction of maximum ascent: $$(1,1,-1).$$
A unit vector in that direction is $$(1,1,-1)/sqrt{3}.$$ And we know the rate of ascent is $6$; therefore, the gradient is $$left(6/sqrt{3}right)(1,1,-1).$$






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The gradient is the vector pointed in the direction of maximum ascent, and its size is the rate at which the function is ascending. With that definition, you can see that we have all the information we need.



We have the direction of maximum ascent: $$(1,1,-1).$$
A unit vector in that direction is $$(1,1,-1)/sqrt{3}.$$ And we know the rate of ascent is $6$; therefore, the gradient is $$left(6/sqrt{3}right)(1,1,-1).$$







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    Give a man a fish, ....
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  • $begingroup$
    Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:36










  • $begingroup$
    @irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
    $endgroup$
    – NicNic8
    Jan 12 at 19:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
    $endgroup$
    – irchans
    Jan 12 at 19:46






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:53


















  • $begingroup$
    Give a man a fish, ....
    $endgroup$
    – irchans
    Jan 12 at 19:33










  • $begingroup$
    Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:36










  • $begingroup$
    @irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
    $endgroup$
    – NicNic8
    Jan 12 at 19:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
    $endgroup$
    – irchans
    Jan 12 at 19:46






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
    $endgroup$
    – Kaan Izmir
    Jan 12 at 19:53
















$begingroup$
Give a man a fish, ....
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– irchans
Jan 12 at 19:33




$begingroup$
Give a man a fish, ....
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– irchans
Jan 12 at 19:33












$begingroup$
Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
$endgroup$
– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:36




$begingroup$
Is that it? When the question says the gradient vector I thought it would be different. I got confused by the word vector.
$endgroup$
– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:36












$begingroup$
@irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
$endgroup$
– NicNic8
Jan 12 at 19:36






$begingroup$
@irchans Please concern yourself with own methods of instruction. I will concern myself with mine.
$endgroup$
– NicNic8
Jan 12 at 19:36






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@NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
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– irchans
Jan 12 at 19:46




$begingroup$
@NicNic8 Sorry. For what it's worth, I found your explanation to be very clear.
$endgroup$
– irchans
Jan 12 at 19:46




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And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
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– Kaan Izmir
Jan 12 at 19:53




$begingroup$
And I found your solution very clear, thanks for the answer, it helped a lot
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