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Can a person be a guru for his own wife?
Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?
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Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?
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Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56
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Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?
women guru initiation upasana
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
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Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?
women guru initiation upasana
women guru initiation upasana
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
hanugmhanugm
4,07921341
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
hanugmhanugm
4,07921341
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
edited Jan 23 at 17:12
Sarvabhouma
15.9k565145
15.9k565145
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
hanugmhanugm
4,07921341
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
hanugmhanugm
4,07921341
asked Jan 20 at 7:48
hanugmhanugm
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5
Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56
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Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56
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Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56
Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56
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According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.
The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:
RudrayAmale:
Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |
Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||
In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:
A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.
So, it is not totally disallowed. A Siddha Guru can initiate his wife but his behavior towards her should be like a husband and not like a father.
Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.
But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.
Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
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active
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active
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According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.
The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:
RudrayAmale:
Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |
Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||
In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:
A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.
So, it is not totally disallowed. A Siddha Guru can initiate his wife but his behavior towards her should be like a husband and not like a father.
Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.
But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.
Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
|
show 6 more comments
According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.
The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:
RudrayAmale:
Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |
Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||
In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:
A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.
So, it is not totally disallowed. A Siddha Guru can initiate his wife but his behavior towards her should be like a husband and not like a father.
Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.
But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.
Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
|
show 6 more comments
According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.
The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:
RudrayAmale:
Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |
Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||
In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:
A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.
So, it is not totally disallowed. A Siddha Guru can initiate his wife but his behavior towards her should be like a husband and not like a father.
Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.
But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.
Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.
The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:
RudrayAmale:
Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |
Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||
In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:
A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.
So, it is not totally disallowed. A Siddha Guru can initiate his wife but his behavior towards her should be like a husband and not like a father.
Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.
But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.
Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
edited Jan 20 at 12:36
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
answered Jan 20 at 10:53
RickrossRickross
52.7k377187
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what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
|
show 6 more comments
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
what about wife initiating husband into tantra
– Rakesh Joshi
Jan 21 at 18:50
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
Thats not allowed i think
– Partha
Jan 22 at 4:41
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
I have not seen any ref like that .. so probably not allowed ... @RakeshJoshi
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 5:57
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
@ParthaBanerjee That book we were talking abt was probably published by Viswabharati Univ Santiniketan and not by RK Mission Institute of culture ... and can u tell in all how many vols are there?
– Rickross
Jan 22 at 6:00
1
1
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
@Rickross ISBN 978-81-87332-81-1 and 978-93-81325-3, priced Rs 300 each
– Partha
Jan 22 at 8:05
|
show 6 more comments
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Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.
– Chinmay Sarupria
Jan 20 at 7:56