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I have tried to find a solution for this problem a lot but I couldn't solve it.



Consider a box containing 3 red ball and 7 white balls. Suppose that balls are drawn one at a time, at random, without replacement from this box until two red balls are obtained. Let X denote the number of the draw on which the second red ball is obtained. Find the probability mass function of X



all what I could do is to get the range for X.
where X = 2 , 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9










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    Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
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    the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
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    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:22










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    maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
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    It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
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    okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
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I have tried to find a solution for this problem a lot but I couldn't solve it.



Consider a box containing 3 red ball and 7 white balls. Suppose that balls are drawn one at a time, at random, without replacement from this box until two red balls are obtained. Let X denote the number of the draw on which the second red ball is obtained. Find the probability mass function of X



all what I could do is to get the range for X.
where X = 2 , 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9










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  • $begingroup$
    Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:14










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    the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:22










  • $begingroup$
    maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:23










  • $begingroup$
    It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:33










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    okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
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    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:58














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I have tried to find a solution for this problem a lot but I couldn't solve it.



Consider a box containing 3 red ball and 7 white balls. Suppose that balls are drawn one at a time, at random, without replacement from this box until two red balls are obtained. Let X denote the number of the draw on which the second red ball is obtained. Find the probability mass function of X



all what I could do is to get the range for X.
where X = 2 , 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9










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I have tried to find a solution for this problem a lot but I couldn't solve it.



Consider a box containing 3 red ball and 7 white balls. Suppose that balls are drawn one at a time, at random, without replacement from this box until two red balls are obtained. Let X denote the number of the draw on which the second red ball is obtained. Find the probability mass function of X



all what I could do is to get the range for X.
where X = 2 , 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9







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  • $begingroup$
    Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:14










  • $begingroup$
    the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:22










  • $begingroup$
    maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:23










  • $begingroup$
    It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:58


















  • $begingroup$
    Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:14










  • $begingroup$
    the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:22










  • $begingroup$
    maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:23










  • $begingroup$
    It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 20 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
    $endgroup$
    – Mo'men Mustafa
    Jan 20 at 17:58
















$begingroup$
Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 20 at 17:14




$begingroup$
Where are you getting stuck? Just go one by one. Easy to see that $P(X=2)=frac 3{10}times frac 2{9}$ for example. Now do the rest.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 20 at 17:14












$begingroup$
the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:22




$begingroup$
the problem here is i can't know how many times i will draw balls so i can not decide the probability very well.
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:22












$begingroup$
maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:23




$begingroup$
maybe i will draw one red ball then 3 white balls then another red ball i won't draw two red balls after each other
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:23












$begingroup$
It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 20 at 17:33




$begingroup$
It's really not that hard. Try some of the cases and I think you'll get the idea. In any case, people here will meet you half way if you show a little effort. What's $P(X=3)$ for instance?
$endgroup$
– lulu
Jan 20 at 17:33












$begingroup$
okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:58




$begingroup$
okay I think it will be (((3C1)*(7C1))/(10C2))*2/8
$endgroup$
– Mo'men Mustafa
Jan 20 at 17:58










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Let's compute $P(X=i)$.



To be in that scenario, the first $i-1$ choices must consist of exactly $1$ red and $i-2$ whites. There are $binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the whites and $3$ ways to choose the reds. Thus there are $3times binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the first $i-1$. Of course there are $binom {10}{i-1}$ ways to do it with out restriction. Thus the probability that the first $i-1$ contain exactly $1$ red is $$3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}$$



Having successfully chosen the first $i-1$ we now require that the $i^{th}$ choice be red. That has probability $frac 2{10-(i-1)}=frac 2{11-i}$. Thus the answer is $$left(3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}right)times frac 2{11-i}$$






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    Let's compute $P(X=i)$.



    To be in that scenario, the first $i-1$ choices must consist of exactly $1$ red and $i-2$ whites. There are $binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the whites and $3$ ways to choose the reds. Thus there are $3times binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the first $i-1$. Of course there are $binom {10}{i-1}$ ways to do it with out restriction. Thus the probability that the first $i-1$ contain exactly $1$ red is $$3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}$$



    Having successfully chosen the first $i-1$ we now require that the $i^{th}$ choice be red. That has probability $frac 2{10-(i-1)}=frac 2{11-i}$. Thus the answer is $$left(3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}right)times frac 2{11-i}$$






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      Let's compute $P(X=i)$.



      To be in that scenario, the first $i-1$ choices must consist of exactly $1$ red and $i-2$ whites. There are $binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the whites and $3$ ways to choose the reds. Thus there are $3times binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the first $i-1$. Of course there are $binom {10}{i-1}$ ways to do it with out restriction. Thus the probability that the first $i-1$ contain exactly $1$ red is $$3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}$$



      Having successfully chosen the first $i-1$ we now require that the $i^{th}$ choice be red. That has probability $frac 2{10-(i-1)}=frac 2{11-i}$. Thus the answer is $$left(3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}right)times frac 2{11-i}$$






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        Let's compute $P(X=i)$.



        To be in that scenario, the first $i-1$ choices must consist of exactly $1$ red and $i-2$ whites. There are $binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the whites and $3$ ways to choose the reds. Thus there are $3times binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the first $i-1$. Of course there are $binom {10}{i-1}$ ways to do it with out restriction. Thus the probability that the first $i-1$ contain exactly $1$ red is $$3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}$$



        Having successfully chosen the first $i-1$ we now require that the $i^{th}$ choice be red. That has probability $frac 2{10-(i-1)}=frac 2{11-i}$. Thus the answer is $$left(3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}right)times frac 2{11-i}$$






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        Let's compute $P(X=i)$.



        To be in that scenario, the first $i-1$ choices must consist of exactly $1$ red and $i-2$ whites. There are $binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the whites and $3$ ways to choose the reds. Thus there are $3times binom 7{i-2}$ ways to choose the first $i-1$. Of course there are $binom {10}{i-1}$ ways to do it with out restriction. Thus the probability that the first $i-1$ contain exactly $1$ red is $$3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}$$



        Having successfully chosen the first $i-1$ we now require that the $i^{th}$ choice be red. That has probability $frac 2{10-(i-1)}=frac 2{11-i}$. Thus the answer is $$left(3times binom 7{i-2}Big /binom {10}{i-1}right)times frac 2{11-i}$$







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