Composition of linear transformation and domain and codomain












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I am trying to do a problem regarding composition of linear transformation from my book. I want to know if my reasoning is correct.



$$T_1(x,y,z)=(2x+3y-z,x-y+z,2x+9z,3y-10z)$$



$$T_2(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4)=(9x_1 - 3x_4,2x_2 + 4x_3 - 2x_4,2x_3 + 2x_4)$$



Q1. State domain and codomain of $T_2circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$.



Since for $T_1$ we are going from $mathbb R^3to mathbb R^4$ and for $T_2$ from $mathbb R^4to mathbb R^3$
,domain of $T_2 circ T_1$ will be $mathbb R^3$ and Codomain will also be $mathbb R^3$



Domain of $T_1 circ T_2$ will be $mathbb R^4$ and codomain will also be $mathbb R^4$.



Q2 Why are $T_2 circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$ well defined?



$T_2 circ T_1$ is well defined because the range of $T_1$ is $mathbb R^4$ and $mathbb R^4$ lies in the domain of $T_2$.



Similarly for $T_1 circ T_2$, the range of $T_2$ is $mathbb R^3$ and lies in the domain of $T_1$ which is $mathbb R^3$.



Is my reasoning correct? Any help will be appreciated.










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I am trying to do a problem regarding composition of linear transformation from my book. I want to know if my reasoning is correct.



$$T_1(x,y,z)=(2x+3y-z,x-y+z,2x+9z,3y-10z)$$



$$T_2(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4)=(9x_1 - 3x_4,2x_2 + 4x_3 - 2x_4,2x_3 + 2x_4)$$



Q1. State domain and codomain of $T_2circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$.



Since for $T_1$ we are going from $mathbb R^3to mathbb R^4$ and for $T_2$ from $mathbb R^4to mathbb R^3$
,domain of $T_2 circ T_1$ will be $mathbb R^3$ and Codomain will also be $mathbb R^3$



Domain of $T_1 circ T_2$ will be $mathbb R^4$ and codomain will also be $mathbb R^4$.



Q2 Why are $T_2 circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$ well defined?



$T_2 circ T_1$ is well defined because the range of $T_1$ is $mathbb R^4$ and $mathbb R^4$ lies in the domain of $T_2$.



Similarly for $T_1 circ T_2$, the range of $T_2$ is $mathbb R^3$ and lies in the domain of $T_1$ which is $mathbb R^3$.



Is my reasoning correct? Any help will be appreciated.










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I am trying to do a problem regarding composition of linear transformation from my book. I want to know if my reasoning is correct.



$$T_1(x,y,z)=(2x+3y-z,x-y+z,2x+9z,3y-10z)$$



$$T_2(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4)=(9x_1 - 3x_4,2x_2 + 4x_3 - 2x_4,2x_3 + 2x_4)$$



Q1. State domain and codomain of $T_2circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$.



Since for $T_1$ we are going from $mathbb R^3to mathbb R^4$ and for $T_2$ from $mathbb R^4to mathbb R^3$
,domain of $T_2 circ T_1$ will be $mathbb R^3$ and Codomain will also be $mathbb R^3$



Domain of $T_1 circ T_2$ will be $mathbb R^4$ and codomain will also be $mathbb R^4$.



Q2 Why are $T_2 circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$ well defined?



$T_2 circ T_1$ is well defined because the range of $T_1$ is $mathbb R^4$ and $mathbb R^4$ lies in the domain of $T_2$.



Similarly for $T_1 circ T_2$, the range of $T_2$ is $mathbb R^3$ and lies in the domain of $T_1$ which is $mathbb R^3$.



Is my reasoning correct? Any help will be appreciated.










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I am trying to do a problem regarding composition of linear transformation from my book. I want to know if my reasoning is correct.



$$T_1(x,y,z)=(2x+3y-z,x-y+z,2x+9z,3y-10z)$$



$$T_2(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4)=(9x_1 - 3x_4,2x_2 + 4x_3 - 2x_4,2x_3 + 2x_4)$$



Q1. State domain and codomain of $T_2circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$.



Since for $T_1$ we are going from $mathbb R^3to mathbb R^4$ and for $T_2$ from $mathbb R^4to mathbb R^3$
,domain of $T_2 circ T_1$ will be $mathbb R^3$ and Codomain will also be $mathbb R^3$



Domain of $T_1 circ T_2$ will be $mathbb R^4$ and codomain will also be $mathbb R^4$.



Q2 Why are $T_2 circ T_1$ and $T_1 circ T_2$ well defined?



$T_2 circ T_1$ is well defined because the range of $T_1$ is $mathbb R^4$ and $mathbb R^4$ lies in the domain of $T_2$.



Similarly for $T_1 circ T_2$, the range of $T_2$ is $mathbb R^3$ and lies in the domain of $T_1$ which is $mathbb R^3$.



Is my reasoning correct? Any help will be appreciated.







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Your answer to Q1 is correct!



For Q2, first note that the range (image) of $T_1$ cannot be $mathbb{R} ^4$, since $dimoperatorname{Ran} T_1 leqdim operatorname{Dom} T_1 = 3$.
The range of $T_1$ consists only of those vectors that are of the form $v = T_1 w$ for some $winmathbb{R}^3$.



To show that $T_2circ T_1$ is well-defined, it suffices to see that the range (or just the codomain, since the range is a subset of the codomain) of $T_1$ is a subset of the domain of $T_2$. This means that $T_2$ can be applied to any output of $T_1$. But you have already seen that the $operatorname{Dom} T_2 = operatorname{Codom} T_1$.



The same reasoning goes through for $T_1circ T_2$ being well-defined. Again, domain of $T_1$ and codomain of $T_2$ coïncide.






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    Your answer to Q1 is correct!



    For Q2, first note that the range (image) of $T_1$ cannot be $mathbb{R} ^4$, since $dimoperatorname{Ran} T_1 leqdim operatorname{Dom} T_1 = 3$.
    The range of $T_1$ consists only of those vectors that are of the form $v = T_1 w$ for some $winmathbb{R}^3$.



    To show that $T_2circ T_1$ is well-defined, it suffices to see that the range (or just the codomain, since the range is a subset of the codomain) of $T_1$ is a subset of the domain of $T_2$. This means that $T_2$ can be applied to any output of $T_1$. But you have already seen that the $operatorname{Dom} T_2 = operatorname{Codom} T_1$.



    The same reasoning goes through for $T_1circ T_2$ being well-defined. Again, domain of $T_1$ and codomain of $T_2$ coïncide.






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      Your answer to Q1 is correct!



      For Q2, first note that the range (image) of $T_1$ cannot be $mathbb{R} ^4$, since $dimoperatorname{Ran} T_1 leqdim operatorname{Dom} T_1 = 3$.
      The range of $T_1$ consists only of those vectors that are of the form $v = T_1 w$ for some $winmathbb{R}^3$.



      To show that $T_2circ T_1$ is well-defined, it suffices to see that the range (or just the codomain, since the range is a subset of the codomain) of $T_1$ is a subset of the domain of $T_2$. This means that $T_2$ can be applied to any output of $T_1$. But you have already seen that the $operatorname{Dom} T_2 = operatorname{Codom} T_1$.



      The same reasoning goes through for $T_1circ T_2$ being well-defined. Again, domain of $T_1$ and codomain of $T_2$ coïncide.






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        Your answer to Q1 is correct!



        For Q2, first note that the range (image) of $T_1$ cannot be $mathbb{R} ^4$, since $dimoperatorname{Ran} T_1 leqdim operatorname{Dom} T_1 = 3$.
        The range of $T_1$ consists only of those vectors that are of the form $v = T_1 w$ for some $winmathbb{R}^3$.



        To show that $T_2circ T_1$ is well-defined, it suffices to see that the range (or just the codomain, since the range is a subset of the codomain) of $T_1$ is a subset of the domain of $T_2$. This means that $T_2$ can be applied to any output of $T_1$. But you have already seen that the $operatorname{Dom} T_2 = operatorname{Codom} T_1$.



        The same reasoning goes through for $T_1circ T_2$ being well-defined. Again, domain of $T_1$ and codomain of $T_2$ coïncide.






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        Your answer to Q1 is correct!



        For Q2, first note that the range (image) of $T_1$ cannot be $mathbb{R} ^4$, since $dimoperatorname{Ran} T_1 leqdim operatorname{Dom} T_1 = 3$.
        The range of $T_1$ consists only of those vectors that are of the form $v = T_1 w$ for some $winmathbb{R}^3$.



        To show that $T_2circ T_1$ is well-defined, it suffices to see that the range (or just the codomain, since the range is a subset of the codomain) of $T_1$ is a subset of the domain of $T_2$. This means that $T_2$ can be applied to any output of $T_1$. But you have already seen that the $operatorname{Dom} T_2 = operatorname{Codom} T_1$.



        The same reasoning goes through for $T_1circ T_2$ being well-defined. Again, domain of $T_1$ and codomain of $T_2$ coïncide.







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