Gambler's ruin problem variant with unfair coin and different starting funds?












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Someone wants to play the Gambler’s Ruin game with you, where you pay
them $1$ dollar if the coin comes up heads and they pay you $1$ if it comes up
tails. You discover that a biased coin will be used
that has probability 2/3 of coming up heads. Even though the other player seems to have the advantage, you get to start with 2 dollars and they will start with 1. Whoever gets all $3$ dollars first will win the game.
Do you still have an advantage, even though you use a biased coin?



Find out by computing $p_1$, where $p_i$ is the probability that the other player wins the game starting with i dollars, for 0 ≤ i ≤ 3. Give an exact value for $p_1$ as a simplified fraction.




How do I go about solving this problem?



I understand the general formula for conditional probability, and in this case I would start with P($E_i$ | H)P(H) + P($E_i$ | T)P(T)



But since "i" doesn't seem to have an upper bound, I don't really know how to compute $p_i$, let alone $p_1$.



Any help is appreciated. Thanks!










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    Someone wants to play the Gambler’s Ruin game with you, where you pay
    them $1$ dollar if the coin comes up heads and they pay you $1$ if it comes up
    tails. You discover that a biased coin will be used
    that has probability 2/3 of coming up heads. Even though the other player seems to have the advantage, you get to start with 2 dollars and they will start with 1. Whoever gets all $3$ dollars first will win the game.
    Do you still have an advantage, even though you use a biased coin?



    Find out by computing $p_1$, where $p_i$ is the probability that the other player wins the game starting with i dollars, for 0 ≤ i ≤ 3. Give an exact value for $p_1$ as a simplified fraction.




    How do I go about solving this problem?



    I understand the general formula for conditional probability, and in this case I would start with P($E_i$ | H)P(H) + P($E_i$ | T)P(T)



    But since "i" doesn't seem to have an upper bound, I don't really know how to compute $p_i$, let alone $p_1$.



    Any help is appreciated. Thanks!










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      Someone wants to play the Gambler’s Ruin game with you, where you pay
      them $1$ dollar if the coin comes up heads and they pay you $1$ if it comes up
      tails. You discover that a biased coin will be used
      that has probability 2/3 of coming up heads. Even though the other player seems to have the advantage, you get to start with 2 dollars and they will start with 1. Whoever gets all $3$ dollars first will win the game.
      Do you still have an advantage, even though you use a biased coin?



      Find out by computing $p_1$, where $p_i$ is the probability that the other player wins the game starting with i dollars, for 0 ≤ i ≤ 3. Give an exact value for $p_1$ as a simplified fraction.




      How do I go about solving this problem?



      I understand the general formula for conditional probability, and in this case I would start with P($E_i$ | H)P(H) + P($E_i$ | T)P(T)



      But since "i" doesn't seem to have an upper bound, I don't really know how to compute $p_i$, let alone $p_1$.



      Any help is appreciated. Thanks!










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      Someone wants to play the Gambler’s Ruin game with you, where you pay
      them $1$ dollar if the coin comes up heads and they pay you $1$ if it comes up
      tails. You discover that a biased coin will be used
      that has probability 2/3 of coming up heads. Even though the other player seems to have the advantage, you get to start with 2 dollars and they will start with 1. Whoever gets all $3$ dollars first will win the game.
      Do you still have an advantage, even though you use a biased coin?



      Find out by computing $p_1$, where $p_i$ is the probability that the other player wins the game starting with i dollars, for 0 ≤ i ≤ 3. Give an exact value for $p_1$ as a simplified fraction.




      How do I go about solving this problem?



      I understand the general formula for conditional probability, and in this case I would start with P($E_i$ | H)P(H) + P($E_i$ | T)P(T)



      But since "i" doesn't seem to have an upper bound, I don't really know how to compute $p_i$, let alone $p_1$.



      Any help is appreciated. Thanks!







      probability combinatorics discrete-mathematics conditional-probability






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          Given the instructions, do the following:



          Let $p_i$ be the probability you lose if you are playing this game and currently you have $3-i$ dollars and they have $i$. Call this "state" $i$.



          Then note that $p_0=0$: since they have $0$, they have already lost the game.



          The interesting cases are the middle ones, where you can write a recursive relationship. Each round of the game the opponent either wins $1$ (with probability 2/3) or loses $1$ (with probability 1/3). So, after one round you move from state $i$ to either $i+1$ or $i-1$.



          By definition of $p_i$ (the winning probability, given that we started at state $i$) we therefore have
          $$p_1=frac{2}{3}p_2+frac{1}{3}p_0$$



          You can solve for all the $p_i$s from here.






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            $begingroup$

            Given the instructions, do the following:



            Let $p_i$ be the probability you lose if you are playing this game and currently you have $3-i$ dollars and they have $i$. Call this "state" $i$.



            Then note that $p_0=0$: since they have $0$, they have already lost the game.



            The interesting cases are the middle ones, where you can write a recursive relationship. Each round of the game the opponent either wins $1$ (with probability 2/3) or loses $1$ (with probability 1/3). So, after one round you move from state $i$ to either $i+1$ or $i-1$.



            By definition of $p_i$ (the winning probability, given that we started at state $i$) we therefore have
            $$p_1=frac{2}{3}p_2+frac{1}{3}p_0$$



            You can solve for all the $p_i$s from here.






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              $begingroup$

              Given the instructions, do the following:



              Let $p_i$ be the probability you lose if you are playing this game and currently you have $3-i$ dollars and they have $i$. Call this "state" $i$.



              Then note that $p_0=0$: since they have $0$, they have already lost the game.



              The interesting cases are the middle ones, where you can write a recursive relationship. Each round of the game the opponent either wins $1$ (with probability 2/3) or loses $1$ (with probability 1/3). So, after one round you move from state $i$ to either $i+1$ or $i-1$.



              By definition of $p_i$ (the winning probability, given that we started at state $i$) we therefore have
              $$p_1=frac{2}{3}p_2+frac{1}{3}p_0$$



              You can solve for all the $p_i$s from here.






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                $begingroup$

                Given the instructions, do the following:



                Let $p_i$ be the probability you lose if you are playing this game and currently you have $3-i$ dollars and they have $i$. Call this "state" $i$.



                Then note that $p_0=0$: since they have $0$, they have already lost the game.



                The interesting cases are the middle ones, where you can write a recursive relationship. Each round of the game the opponent either wins $1$ (with probability 2/3) or loses $1$ (with probability 1/3). So, after one round you move from state $i$ to either $i+1$ or $i-1$.



                By definition of $p_i$ (the winning probability, given that we started at state $i$) we therefore have
                $$p_1=frac{2}{3}p_2+frac{1}{3}p_0$$



                You can solve for all the $p_i$s from here.






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                Given the instructions, do the following:



                Let $p_i$ be the probability you lose if you are playing this game and currently you have $3-i$ dollars and they have $i$. Call this "state" $i$.



                Then note that $p_0=0$: since they have $0$, they have already lost the game.



                The interesting cases are the middle ones, where you can write a recursive relationship. Each round of the game the opponent either wins $1$ (with probability 2/3) or loses $1$ (with probability 1/3). So, after one round you move from state $i$ to either $i+1$ or $i-1$.



                By definition of $p_i$ (the winning probability, given that we started at state $i$) we therefore have
                $$p_1=frac{2}{3}p_2+frac{1}{3}p_0$$



                You can solve for all the $p_i$s from here.







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