How is Hessian tensor on Riemannian manifold related to the Hessian matrix from calculus?












1












$begingroup$


From calculus, given a smooth function $f: mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the Hessian matrix is the $ntimes n$ matrix of second partials:



$${rm Hess}(f)= bigg( frac{partial^{2}f}{partial x_{i} partial x_{j}}bigg)$$



On a Riemannian manifold, one way to define the Hessian tensor of a smooth function $f:M rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is by



$${rm Hess}(f)(X,Y)=X(Yf)-df(nabla_{X}Y)$$



where $X$ and $Y$ are smooth vector fields on $M$.




I would like to know what relationship the Hessian on a Riemannian manifold has with the Hessian matrix of a function on $mathbb{R}^{n}$.











share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$

















    1












    $begingroup$


    From calculus, given a smooth function $f: mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the Hessian matrix is the $ntimes n$ matrix of second partials:



    $${rm Hess}(f)= bigg( frac{partial^{2}f}{partial x_{i} partial x_{j}}bigg)$$



    On a Riemannian manifold, one way to define the Hessian tensor of a smooth function $f:M rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is by



    $${rm Hess}(f)(X,Y)=X(Yf)-df(nabla_{X}Y)$$



    where $X$ and $Y$ are smooth vector fields on $M$.




    I would like to know what relationship the Hessian on a Riemannian manifold has with the Hessian matrix of a function on $mathbb{R}^{n}$.











    share|cite|improve this question











    $endgroup$















      1












      1








      1


      1



      $begingroup$


      From calculus, given a smooth function $f: mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the Hessian matrix is the $ntimes n$ matrix of second partials:



      $${rm Hess}(f)= bigg( frac{partial^{2}f}{partial x_{i} partial x_{j}}bigg)$$



      On a Riemannian manifold, one way to define the Hessian tensor of a smooth function $f:M rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is by



      $${rm Hess}(f)(X,Y)=X(Yf)-df(nabla_{X}Y)$$



      where $X$ and $Y$ are smooth vector fields on $M$.




      I would like to know what relationship the Hessian on a Riemannian manifold has with the Hessian matrix of a function on $mathbb{R}^{n}$.











      share|cite|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      From calculus, given a smooth function $f: mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$, the Hessian matrix is the $ntimes n$ matrix of second partials:



      $${rm Hess}(f)= bigg( frac{partial^{2}f}{partial x_{i} partial x_{j}}bigg)$$



      On a Riemannian manifold, one way to define the Hessian tensor of a smooth function $f:M rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is by



      $${rm Hess}(f)(X,Y)=X(Yf)-df(nabla_{X}Y)$$



      where $X$ and $Y$ are smooth vector fields on $M$.




      I would like to know what relationship the Hessian on a Riemannian manifold has with the Hessian matrix of a function on $mathbb{R}^{n}$.








      differential-geometry riemannian-geometry






      share|cite|improve this question















      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question








      edited Jul 11 '18 at 21:18









      Ivo Terek

      46.7k954146




      46.7k954146










      asked Jul 11 '18 at 20:50









      TuoTuoTuoTuo

      1,776516




      1,776516






















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          4












          $begingroup$

          The relation between the Riemannian Hessian and the Hessian in Euclidean space is very simple - they are the same. More precisely, the Euclidean Hessian is a particular case of the more general Riemannian Hessian.



          Let $(x_1,ldots,x_n)$ be local coordinates on a neighborhood in a Riemannian manifold $M$, and let $Gamma_{ij}^k$ denote the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to these coordinates. Let us massage your definition for the Hessian; we consider the vector fields $$X=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i},;Y=Y^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}.$$ Then $$begin{align}X(Y(f))-df(nabla_XY)&=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}left(Y^jfrac{partial f}{partial x_j}right)-dfleft(nabla_{X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}}Y^jfrac{partial}{partial x_j}right)\&=X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial f}{partial x_j}+Y^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}right)-dfleft(X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial}{partial x_j}+Y^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial}{partial x_k}right)right)\&=X^iY^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}-X^iY^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial f}{partial x_k}.end{align}$$Now, the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to the usual coordinates on $mathbb{R}^n$ are all zero. Hence, the Euclidean Hessian matrix of the function $f$ is just the matrix whose $(ij)$ entry is $$mathrm{Hess}(f)_{ij}=mathrm{Hess}(f)left(frac{partial}{partial x_i},frac{partial}{partial x_j}right),$$where the right hand side is the Riemannian Hessian.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$





















            2












            $begingroup$

            That Hessian matrix is useful for analyzing the behaviour of critical points of $f$, where $df_p = 0$. More precisely, let $M$ be a smooth manifold and $nabla$ be a linear connection in $TM$. If $fcolon M to Bbb R$ is a smooth map, $p in M$ is a critical point of $f$, and $(x^i)_{i=1}^n$ is a system of coordinates around $p$, we have the local expression $${rm Hess},f_p(partial_ibig|_p,partial_jbig|_p) = partial_ibig|_p(partial_j f) - require{cancel} cancelto{0}{df_p(nabla_{partial_i}partial_j)} = frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p),$$and so $${rm Hess},f_p = sum_{i,j=1}^n frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p) ,dx^ibig|_potimes dx^jbig|_p$$



            At a generic point $p$, the bilinear map ${rm Hess},f_p$ depends on the choice of connection (because of the $nabla$ in the second term). But if $p$ is a critical point, then the map ${rm Hess}, f_p$ becomes independent of the choice of connection. If $p$ is not critical, one usually picks $nabla$ to be the Levi-Civita connection of some Riemannian metric in $M$. But a priori, you can use any connection (which can lead to some awkward things, such as the Hessian not being symmetric if $nabla$ has torsion).






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$













            • $begingroup$
              1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
              $endgroup$
              – Ivo Terek
              Jan 31 at 4:38










            • $begingroup$
              Sure, no problem.
              $endgroup$
              – Ivo Terek
              Jan 31 at 4:41






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
              $endgroup$
              – tparker
              Jan 31 at 4:49










            • $begingroup$
              Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
              $endgroup$
              – Ivo Terek
              Jan 31 at 4:52












            Your Answer





            StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
            return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
            StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
            StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
            });
            });
            }, "mathjax-editing");

            StackExchange.ready(function() {
            var channelOptions = {
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "69"
            };
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
            createEditor();
            });
            }
            else {
            createEditor();
            }
            });

            function createEditor() {
            StackExchange.prepareEditor({
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
            convertImagesToLinks: true,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: 10,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader: {
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            },
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            });


            }
            });














            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2848033%2fhow-is-hessian-tensor-on-riemannian-manifold-related-to-the-hessian-matrix-from%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            2 Answers
            2






            active

            oldest

            votes








            2 Answers
            2






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes









            4












            $begingroup$

            The relation between the Riemannian Hessian and the Hessian in Euclidean space is very simple - they are the same. More precisely, the Euclidean Hessian is a particular case of the more general Riemannian Hessian.



            Let $(x_1,ldots,x_n)$ be local coordinates on a neighborhood in a Riemannian manifold $M$, and let $Gamma_{ij}^k$ denote the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to these coordinates. Let us massage your definition for the Hessian; we consider the vector fields $$X=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i},;Y=Y^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}.$$ Then $$begin{align}X(Y(f))-df(nabla_XY)&=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}left(Y^jfrac{partial f}{partial x_j}right)-dfleft(nabla_{X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}}Y^jfrac{partial}{partial x_j}right)\&=X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial f}{partial x_j}+Y^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}right)-dfleft(X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial}{partial x_j}+Y^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial}{partial x_k}right)right)\&=X^iY^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}-X^iY^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial f}{partial x_k}.end{align}$$Now, the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to the usual coordinates on $mathbb{R}^n$ are all zero. Hence, the Euclidean Hessian matrix of the function $f$ is just the matrix whose $(ij)$ entry is $$mathrm{Hess}(f)_{ij}=mathrm{Hess}(f)left(frac{partial}{partial x_i},frac{partial}{partial x_j}right),$$where the right hand side is the Riemannian Hessian.






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$


















              4












              $begingroup$

              The relation between the Riemannian Hessian and the Hessian in Euclidean space is very simple - they are the same. More precisely, the Euclidean Hessian is a particular case of the more general Riemannian Hessian.



              Let $(x_1,ldots,x_n)$ be local coordinates on a neighborhood in a Riemannian manifold $M$, and let $Gamma_{ij}^k$ denote the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to these coordinates. Let us massage your definition for the Hessian; we consider the vector fields $$X=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i},;Y=Y^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}.$$ Then $$begin{align}X(Y(f))-df(nabla_XY)&=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}left(Y^jfrac{partial f}{partial x_j}right)-dfleft(nabla_{X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}}Y^jfrac{partial}{partial x_j}right)\&=X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial f}{partial x_j}+Y^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}right)-dfleft(X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial}{partial x_j}+Y^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial}{partial x_k}right)right)\&=X^iY^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}-X^iY^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial f}{partial x_k}.end{align}$$Now, the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to the usual coordinates on $mathbb{R}^n$ are all zero. Hence, the Euclidean Hessian matrix of the function $f$ is just the matrix whose $(ij)$ entry is $$mathrm{Hess}(f)_{ij}=mathrm{Hess}(f)left(frac{partial}{partial x_i},frac{partial}{partial x_j}right),$$where the right hand side is the Riemannian Hessian.






              share|cite|improve this answer









              $endgroup$
















                4












                4








                4





                $begingroup$

                The relation between the Riemannian Hessian and the Hessian in Euclidean space is very simple - they are the same. More precisely, the Euclidean Hessian is a particular case of the more general Riemannian Hessian.



                Let $(x_1,ldots,x_n)$ be local coordinates on a neighborhood in a Riemannian manifold $M$, and let $Gamma_{ij}^k$ denote the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to these coordinates. Let us massage your definition for the Hessian; we consider the vector fields $$X=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i},;Y=Y^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}.$$ Then $$begin{align}X(Y(f))-df(nabla_XY)&=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}left(Y^jfrac{partial f}{partial x_j}right)-dfleft(nabla_{X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}}Y^jfrac{partial}{partial x_j}right)\&=X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial f}{partial x_j}+Y^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}right)-dfleft(X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial}{partial x_j}+Y^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial}{partial x_k}right)right)\&=X^iY^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}-X^iY^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial f}{partial x_k}.end{align}$$Now, the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to the usual coordinates on $mathbb{R}^n$ are all zero. Hence, the Euclidean Hessian matrix of the function $f$ is just the matrix whose $(ij)$ entry is $$mathrm{Hess}(f)_{ij}=mathrm{Hess}(f)left(frac{partial}{partial x_i},frac{partial}{partial x_j}right),$$where the right hand side is the Riemannian Hessian.






                share|cite|improve this answer









                $endgroup$



                The relation between the Riemannian Hessian and the Hessian in Euclidean space is very simple - they are the same. More precisely, the Euclidean Hessian is a particular case of the more general Riemannian Hessian.



                Let $(x_1,ldots,x_n)$ be local coordinates on a neighborhood in a Riemannian manifold $M$, and let $Gamma_{ij}^k$ denote the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to these coordinates. Let us massage your definition for the Hessian; we consider the vector fields $$X=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i},;Y=Y^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}.$$ Then $$begin{align}X(Y(f))-df(nabla_XY)&=X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}left(Y^jfrac{partial f}{partial x_j}right)-dfleft(nabla_{X^ifrac{partial}{partial x_i}}Y^jfrac{partial}{partial x_j}right)\&=X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial f}{partial x_j}+Y^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}right)-dfleft(X^ileft(frac{partial Y^j}{partial x_i}frac{partial}{partial x_j}+Y^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial}{partial x_k}right)right)\&=X^iY^jfrac{partial^2f}{partial x_ipartial x_j}-X^iY^jGamma_{ij}^kfrac{partial f}{partial x_k}.end{align}$$Now, the Christoffel symbols of the Levi-Civita connection with respect to the usual coordinates on $mathbb{R}^n$ are all zero. Hence, the Euclidean Hessian matrix of the function $f$ is just the matrix whose $(ij)$ entry is $$mathrm{Hess}(f)_{ij}=mathrm{Hess}(f)left(frac{partial}{partial x_i},frac{partial}{partial x_j}right),$$where the right hand side is the Riemannian Hessian.







                share|cite|improve this answer












                share|cite|improve this answer



                share|cite|improve this answer










                answered Jul 12 '18 at 11:41









                Amitai YuvalAmitai Yuval

                15.6k11127




                15.6k11127























                    2












                    $begingroup$

                    That Hessian matrix is useful for analyzing the behaviour of critical points of $f$, where $df_p = 0$. More precisely, let $M$ be a smooth manifold and $nabla$ be a linear connection in $TM$. If $fcolon M to Bbb R$ is a smooth map, $p in M$ is a critical point of $f$, and $(x^i)_{i=1}^n$ is a system of coordinates around $p$, we have the local expression $${rm Hess},f_p(partial_ibig|_p,partial_jbig|_p) = partial_ibig|_p(partial_j f) - require{cancel} cancelto{0}{df_p(nabla_{partial_i}partial_j)} = frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p),$$and so $${rm Hess},f_p = sum_{i,j=1}^n frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p) ,dx^ibig|_potimes dx^jbig|_p$$



                    At a generic point $p$, the bilinear map ${rm Hess},f_p$ depends on the choice of connection (because of the $nabla$ in the second term). But if $p$ is a critical point, then the map ${rm Hess}, f_p$ becomes independent of the choice of connection. If $p$ is not critical, one usually picks $nabla$ to be the Levi-Civita connection of some Riemannian metric in $M$. But a priori, you can use any connection (which can lead to some awkward things, such as the Hessian not being symmetric if $nabla$ has torsion).






                    share|cite|improve this answer











                    $endgroup$













                    • $begingroup$
                      1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:38










                    • $begingroup$
                      Sure, no problem.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:41






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                      $endgroup$
                      – tparker
                      Jan 31 at 4:49










                    • $begingroup$
                      Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:52
















                    2












                    $begingroup$

                    That Hessian matrix is useful for analyzing the behaviour of critical points of $f$, where $df_p = 0$. More precisely, let $M$ be a smooth manifold and $nabla$ be a linear connection in $TM$. If $fcolon M to Bbb R$ is a smooth map, $p in M$ is a critical point of $f$, and $(x^i)_{i=1}^n$ is a system of coordinates around $p$, we have the local expression $${rm Hess},f_p(partial_ibig|_p,partial_jbig|_p) = partial_ibig|_p(partial_j f) - require{cancel} cancelto{0}{df_p(nabla_{partial_i}partial_j)} = frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p),$$and so $${rm Hess},f_p = sum_{i,j=1}^n frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p) ,dx^ibig|_potimes dx^jbig|_p$$



                    At a generic point $p$, the bilinear map ${rm Hess},f_p$ depends on the choice of connection (because of the $nabla$ in the second term). But if $p$ is a critical point, then the map ${rm Hess}, f_p$ becomes independent of the choice of connection. If $p$ is not critical, one usually picks $nabla$ to be the Levi-Civita connection of some Riemannian metric in $M$. But a priori, you can use any connection (which can lead to some awkward things, such as the Hessian not being symmetric if $nabla$ has torsion).






                    share|cite|improve this answer











                    $endgroup$













                    • $begingroup$
                      1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:38










                    • $begingroup$
                      Sure, no problem.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:41






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                      $endgroup$
                      – tparker
                      Jan 31 at 4:49










                    • $begingroup$
                      Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:52














                    2












                    2








                    2





                    $begingroup$

                    That Hessian matrix is useful for analyzing the behaviour of critical points of $f$, where $df_p = 0$. More precisely, let $M$ be a smooth manifold and $nabla$ be a linear connection in $TM$. If $fcolon M to Bbb R$ is a smooth map, $p in M$ is a critical point of $f$, and $(x^i)_{i=1}^n$ is a system of coordinates around $p$, we have the local expression $${rm Hess},f_p(partial_ibig|_p,partial_jbig|_p) = partial_ibig|_p(partial_j f) - require{cancel} cancelto{0}{df_p(nabla_{partial_i}partial_j)} = frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p),$$and so $${rm Hess},f_p = sum_{i,j=1}^n frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p) ,dx^ibig|_potimes dx^jbig|_p$$



                    At a generic point $p$, the bilinear map ${rm Hess},f_p$ depends on the choice of connection (because of the $nabla$ in the second term). But if $p$ is a critical point, then the map ${rm Hess}, f_p$ becomes independent of the choice of connection. If $p$ is not critical, one usually picks $nabla$ to be the Levi-Civita connection of some Riemannian metric in $M$. But a priori, you can use any connection (which can lead to some awkward things, such as the Hessian not being symmetric if $nabla$ has torsion).






                    share|cite|improve this answer











                    $endgroup$



                    That Hessian matrix is useful for analyzing the behaviour of critical points of $f$, where $df_p = 0$. More precisely, let $M$ be a smooth manifold and $nabla$ be a linear connection in $TM$. If $fcolon M to Bbb R$ is a smooth map, $p in M$ is a critical point of $f$, and $(x^i)_{i=1}^n$ is a system of coordinates around $p$, we have the local expression $${rm Hess},f_p(partial_ibig|_p,partial_jbig|_p) = partial_ibig|_p(partial_j f) - require{cancel} cancelto{0}{df_p(nabla_{partial_i}partial_j)} = frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p),$$and so $${rm Hess},f_p = sum_{i,j=1}^n frac{partial^2f}{partial x^ipartial x^j}(p) ,dx^ibig|_potimes dx^jbig|_p$$



                    At a generic point $p$, the bilinear map ${rm Hess},f_p$ depends on the choice of connection (because of the $nabla$ in the second term). But if $p$ is a critical point, then the map ${rm Hess}, f_p$ becomes independent of the choice of connection. If $p$ is not critical, one usually picks $nabla$ to be the Levi-Civita connection of some Riemannian metric in $M$. But a priori, you can use any connection (which can lead to some awkward things, such as the Hessian not being symmetric if $nabla$ has torsion).







                    share|cite|improve this answer














                    share|cite|improve this answer



                    share|cite|improve this answer








                    edited Jan 31 at 4:51









                    tparker

                    1,931834




                    1,931834










                    answered Jul 11 '18 at 21:16









                    Ivo TerekIvo Terek

                    46.7k954146




                    46.7k954146












                    • $begingroup$
                      1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:38










                    • $begingroup$
                      Sure, no problem.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:41






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                      $endgroup$
                      – tparker
                      Jan 31 at 4:49










                    • $begingroup$
                      Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:52


















                    • $begingroup$
                      1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:38










                    • $begingroup$
                      Sure, no problem.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:41






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                      $endgroup$
                      – tparker
                      Jan 31 at 4:49










                    • $begingroup$
                      Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                      $endgroup$
                      – Ivo Terek
                      Jan 31 at 4:52
















                    $begingroup$
                    1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:38




                    $begingroup$
                    1) I'm saying that if ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)(X,Y) doteq X(Y(f)) - {rm d}f(nabla_XY)$, $nabla'$ is another connection, and $p$ is a critical point of $f$, then ${rm Hess}^nabla(f)_p = {rm Hess}^{nabla'}(f)_p$. 2) I just meant that a priori there is no preferred connection to choose, if you don't have extra structure in your manifold (e.g., a Riemannian metric).
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:38












                    $begingroup$
                    Sure, no problem.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:41




                    $begingroup$
                    Sure, no problem.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:41




                    1




                    1




                    $begingroup$
                    Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                    $endgroup$
                    – tparker
                    Jan 31 at 4:49




                    $begingroup$
                    Thanks, I suggested an edit which is now in the edit queue.
                    $endgroup$
                    – tparker
                    Jan 31 at 4:49












                    $begingroup$
                    Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:52




                    $begingroup$
                    Thank you, your edit was very good, I have already approved it :-)
                    $endgroup$
                    – Ivo Terek
                    Jan 31 at 4:52


















                    draft saved

                    draft discarded




















































                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid



                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                    draft saved


                    draft discarded














                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function () {
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2848033%2fhow-is-hessian-tensor-on-riemannian-manifold-related-to-the-hessian-matrix-from%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                    }
                    );

                    Post as a guest















                    Required, but never shown





















































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown

































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown







                    Popular posts from this blog

                    MongoDB - Not Authorized To Execute Command

                    How to fix TextFormField cause rebuild widget in Flutter

                    in spring boot 2.1 many test slices are not allowed anymore due to multiple @BootstrapWith