How to find a unit normal vector to the given curve?












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Find the unit normal vector to the curve $r(t) = (3sin t)i + (3cos t)j + 4t k$ at point $( pi /2, 0,1)$.



The tangent vector of this curve is $(3 cos t)i -(3 sin t)j + 4k$ and unit normal vector should be perpendicular to this vector at given point.
But I couldn't get the final answer. How to find unit normal vector at the given point$?$










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    This point is not on the curve?
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    – Peter Foreman
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    This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
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    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:43












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    Therefore it is not on the curve?
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    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:45










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    So, there's no solution?
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    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:46






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    If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
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    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:47
















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$begingroup$


Find the unit normal vector to the curve $r(t) = (3sin t)i + (3cos t)j + 4t k$ at point $( pi /2, 0,1)$.



The tangent vector of this curve is $(3 cos t)i -(3 sin t)j + 4k$ and unit normal vector should be perpendicular to this vector at given point.
But I couldn't get the final answer. How to find unit normal vector at the given point$?$










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This point is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:39










  • $begingroup$
    This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:43












  • $begingroup$
    Therefore it is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:45










  • $begingroup$
    So, there's no solution?
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:46






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    $begingroup$
    If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:47














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Find the unit normal vector to the curve $r(t) = (3sin t)i + (3cos t)j + 4t k$ at point $( pi /2, 0,1)$.



The tangent vector of this curve is $(3 cos t)i -(3 sin t)j + 4k$ and unit normal vector should be perpendicular to this vector at given point.
But I couldn't get the final answer. How to find unit normal vector at the given point$?$










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Find the unit normal vector to the curve $r(t) = (3sin t)i + (3cos t)j + 4t k$ at point $( pi /2, 0,1)$.



The tangent vector of this curve is $(3 cos t)i -(3 sin t)j + 4k$ and unit normal vector should be perpendicular to this vector at given point.
But I couldn't get the final answer. How to find unit normal vector at the given point$?$







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    $begingroup$
    This point is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:39










  • $begingroup$
    This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:43












  • $begingroup$
    Therefore it is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:45










  • $begingroup$
    So, there's no solution?
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:46






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:47














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This point is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:39










  • $begingroup$
    This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:43












  • $begingroup$
    Therefore it is not on the curve?
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:45










  • $begingroup$
    So, there's no solution?
    $endgroup$
    – Mathsaddict
    Jan 30 at 20:46






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Foreman
    Jan 30 at 20:47








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$begingroup$
This point is not on the curve?
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:39




$begingroup$
This point is not on the curve?
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:39












$begingroup$
This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
$endgroup$
– Mathsaddict
Jan 30 at 20:43






$begingroup$
This point is on the curve. I couldn't find any value of $t$ for this point
$endgroup$
– Mathsaddict
Jan 30 at 20:43














$begingroup$
Therefore it is not on the curve?
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:45




$begingroup$
Therefore it is not on the curve?
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:45












$begingroup$
So, there's no solution?
$endgroup$
– Mathsaddict
Jan 30 at 20:46




$begingroup$
So, there's no solution?
$endgroup$
– Mathsaddict
Jan 30 at 20:46




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$begingroup$
If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:47




$begingroup$
If the point is on the curve one can find the value of t as 1/4 of the k coefficient. Then use the formula you mentioned for a correct answer. But this point is not on the curve, so the normal to the curve cannot be found.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
Jan 30 at 20:47










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Observe that your point is not on the curve, so it does not make sense to compute the unit normal at that point. Anyway, here is a general process to find the unit normal.



First of all you should parametrize your curve by arclength, which is given by
begin{align}
s(t) & = int_0^t lVert r'(x) rVert,dx \
& = 5t.
end{align}

As a function of $s$, $r$ can be rewritten as $r(s) = left(3sin frac{s}{5},3cos frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5}sright)$. The unit tangent is then
$$T(s) = frac{1}{lVert frac{dr}{ds}rVert}frac{dr}{ds} = left(frac{3}{5}cos frac{s}{5}, -frac{3}{5}sin frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5} right).$$
The unit normal is just given by the renormalized derivative of the tangent vector:
$$N(s)=frac{T'(s)}{lVert T'(s)rVert} = left(-sin frac{s}{5},-cos frac{s}{5}, 0right). $$






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    Observe that your point is not on the curve, so it does not make sense to compute the unit normal at that point. Anyway, here is a general process to find the unit normal.



    First of all you should parametrize your curve by arclength, which is given by
    begin{align}
    s(t) & = int_0^t lVert r'(x) rVert,dx \
    & = 5t.
    end{align}

    As a function of $s$, $r$ can be rewritten as $r(s) = left(3sin frac{s}{5},3cos frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5}sright)$. The unit tangent is then
    $$T(s) = frac{1}{lVert frac{dr}{ds}rVert}frac{dr}{ds} = left(frac{3}{5}cos frac{s}{5}, -frac{3}{5}sin frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5} right).$$
    The unit normal is just given by the renormalized derivative of the tangent vector:
    $$N(s)=frac{T'(s)}{lVert T'(s)rVert} = left(-sin frac{s}{5},-cos frac{s}{5}, 0right). $$






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      Observe that your point is not on the curve, so it does not make sense to compute the unit normal at that point. Anyway, here is a general process to find the unit normal.



      First of all you should parametrize your curve by arclength, which is given by
      begin{align}
      s(t) & = int_0^t lVert r'(x) rVert,dx \
      & = 5t.
      end{align}

      As a function of $s$, $r$ can be rewritten as $r(s) = left(3sin frac{s}{5},3cos frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5}sright)$. The unit tangent is then
      $$T(s) = frac{1}{lVert frac{dr}{ds}rVert}frac{dr}{ds} = left(frac{3}{5}cos frac{s}{5}, -frac{3}{5}sin frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5} right).$$
      The unit normal is just given by the renormalized derivative of the tangent vector:
      $$N(s)=frac{T'(s)}{lVert T'(s)rVert} = left(-sin frac{s}{5},-cos frac{s}{5}, 0right). $$






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        $begingroup$

        Observe that your point is not on the curve, so it does not make sense to compute the unit normal at that point. Anyway, here is a general process to find the unit normal.



        First of all you should parametrize your curve by arclength, which is given by
        begin{align}
        s(t) & = int_0^t lVert r'(x) rVert,dx \
        & = 5t.
        end{align}

        As a function of $s$, $r$ can be rewritten as $r(s) = left(3sin frac{s}{5},3cos frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5}sright)$. The unit tangent is then
        $$T(s) = frac{1}{lVert frac{dr}{ds}rVert}frac{dr}{ds} = left(frac{3}{5}cos frac{s}{5}, -frac{3}{5}sin frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5} right).$$
        The unit normal is just given by the renormalized derivative of the tangent vector:
        $$N(s)=frac{T'(s)}{lVert T'(s)rVert} = left(-sin frac{s}{5},-cos frac{s}{5}, 0right). $$






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        Observe that your point is not on the curve, so it does not make sense to compute the unit normal at that point. Anyway, here is a general process to find the unit normal.



        First of all you should parametrize your curve by arclength, which is given by
        begin{align}
        s(t) & = int_0^t lVert r'(x) rVert,dx \
        & = 5t.
        end{align}

        As a function of $s$, $r$ can be rewritten as $r(s) = left(3sin frac{s}{5},3cos frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5}sright)$. The unit tangent is then
        $$T(s) = frac{1}{lVert frac{dr}{ds}rVert}frac{dr}{ds} = left(frac{3}{5}cos frac{s}{5}, -frac{3}{5}sin frac{s}{5}, frac{4}{5} right).$$
        The unit normal is just given by the renormalized derivative of the tangent vector:
        $$N(s)=frac{T'(s)}{lVert T'(s)rVert} = left(-sin frac{s}{5},-cos frac{s}{5}, 0right). $$







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