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I was doing a practice test for a math competition, and I came across a problem I am unable to solve, and I have tried to get help, with no luck. I need to be able to solve it without a calculator too. The problem is: "If $x^2+1/x^2=3$ and $x > 0$, what is the value of $x+1/x$. Express your answer in simplest radical form." I tried manipulating the first equation and I end up with $x^4-3x^2+1=0$, and there is no way I can figure out how to factor it. I would appreciate any help I can get with this problem!










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    I was doing a practice test for a math competition, and I came across a problem I am unable to solve, and I have tried to get help, with no luck. I need to be able to solve it without a calculator too. The problem is: "If $x^2+1/x^2=3$ and $x > 0$, what is the value of $x+1/x$. Express your answer in simplest radical form." I tried manipulating the first equation and I end up with $x^4-3x^2+1=0$, and there is no way I can figure out how to factor it. I would appreciate any help I can get with this problem!










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      I was doing a practice test for a math competition, and I came across a problem I am unable to solve, and I have tried to get help, with no luck. I need to be able to solve it without a calculator too. The problem is: "If $x^2+1/x^2=3$ and $x > 0$, what is the value of $x+1/x$. Express your answer in simplest radical form." I tried manipulating the first equation and I end up with $x^4-3x^2+1=0$, and there is no way I can figure out how to factor it. I would appreciate any help I can get with this problem!










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      I was doing a practice test for a math competition, and I came across a problem I am unable to solve, and I have tried to get help, with no luck. I need to be able to solve it without a calculator too. The problem is: "If $x^2+1/x^2=3$ and $x > 0$, what is the value of $x+1/x$. Express your answer in simplest radical form." I tried manipulating the first equation and I end up with $x^4-3x^2+1=0$, and there is no way I can figure out how to factor it. I would appreciate any help I can get with this problem!







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            Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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            can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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          Notice that $x^2 frac{1}{x^2} = 1$. We could add 2 to both sides of the equation to complete the square. $$ (x + frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$






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            You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
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            Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
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            Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
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            $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
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            Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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            can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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          After you get your $y$, you can solve for the corresponding $x$.






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            Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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            can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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          answered Jan 30 at 2:48









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            Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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            Jan 30 at 23:02










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            can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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            Jan 31 at 0:53


















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            Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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            – Spencer1O1
            Jan 30 at 23:02










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            can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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          Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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          – Spencer1O1
          Jan 30 at 23:02




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          Can I get a more detailed explanation? I know the quadratic formula, but that doesn't really answer my question.
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          Jan 30 at 23:02












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          can you solve $y^2-3y+1=0$?
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          Notice that $x^2 frac{1}{x^2} = 1$. We could add 2 to both sides of the equation to complete the square. $$ (x + frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$






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            You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
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            – J. W. Tanner
            Jan 30 at 2:59












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            Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
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            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 30 at 3:04










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            Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
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            – Spencer1O1
            Jan 30 at 23:02










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            $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
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            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 31 at 1:31


















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          $begingroup$

          Notice that $x^2 frac{1}{x^2} = 1$. We could add 2 to both sides of the equation to complete the square. $$ (x + frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$






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          • $begingroup$
            You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
            $endgroup$
            – J. W. Tanner
            Jan 30 at 2:59












          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 30 at 3:04










          • $begingroup$
            Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
            $endgroup$
            – Spencer1O1
            Jan 30 at 23:02










          • $begingroup$
            $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 31 at 1:31
















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          $begingroup$

          Notice that $x^2 frac{1}{x^2} = 1$. We could add 2 to both sides of the equation to complete the square. $$ (x + frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$






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          Notice that $x^2 frac{1}{x^2} = 1$. We could add 2 to both sides of the equation to complete the square. $$ (x + frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$







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          answered Jan 30 at 2:50









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          • $begingroup$
            You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
            $endgroup$
            – J. W. Tanner
            Jan 30 at 2:59












          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 30 at 3:04










          • $begingroup$
            Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
            $endgroup$
            – Spencer1O1
            Jan 30 at 23:02










          • $begingroup$
            $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 31 at 1:31




















          • $begingroup$
            You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
            $endgroup$
            – J. W. Tanner
            Jan 30 at 2:59












          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 30 at 3:04










          • $begingroup$
            Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
            $endgroup$
            – Spencer1O1
            Jan 30 at 23:02










          • $begingroup$
            $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
            $endgroup$
            – Alvis Nordkovich
            Jan 31 at 1:31


















          $begingroup$
          You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
          $endgroup$
          – J. W. Tanner
          Jan 30 at 2:59






          $begingroup$
          You mean $x^2 + frac 1 {x^2}=3?$
          $endgroup$
          – J. W. Tanner
          Jan 30 at 2:59














          $begingroup$
          Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
          $endgroup$
          – Alvis Nordkovich
          Jan 30 at 3:04




          $begingroup$
          Thank you for pointing out the typo, I mean their product. It is corrected. @J.W.Tanner
          $endgroup$
          – Alvis Nordkovich
          Jan 30 at 3:04












          $begingroup$
          Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
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          – Spencer1O1
          Jan 30 at 23:02




          $begingroup$
          Can I get a more detailed explanation please?
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          – Spencer1O1
          Jan 30 at 23:02












          $begingroup$
          $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
          $endgroup$
          – Alvis Nordkovich
          Jan 31 at 1:31






          $begingroup$
          $$x^2 + frac{1}{x^2} + 2 = 3 + 2 = 5$$ $$x^2 + x^2 frac{1}{x^2} + frac{1}{x^2} = 5$$ $$(x+frac{1}{x})^2 = 5$$ $$x + frac{1}{x} = sqrt{5}$$ given $x > 0$ @Spencer1O1
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          – Alvis Nordkovich
          Jan 31 at 1:31




















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