visual studio not updating html / javascript to server / browser

This is an MVC 4 app using the Hot Towel SPA template. Whenever I change anything in the HTML and/or javascript the only way I can get the new code to display is to clear the browser cache. F5, cntrl-F5, shift-F5, nothing works.

I'm not normally a web dev and just learning this. I've done regular MVC before and not had this issue, maybe it has to do with where the HTML and javascript is in my project (i.e. in the /App folder) ?. I'm going nuts trying to figure this out.

I can completely delete an HTML file and run the app and it still runs as it did. Clear cache and run and I then get the update.

It's running using IIS express using Firefox, Chrome, IE...

Thanks..

edited Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

asked Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

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I can completely delete an HTML file and run the app and it still runs as it did. Clear cache and run and I then get the update.

It's running using IIS express using Firefox, Chrome, IE...

Thanks..

edited Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

asked Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

Brian

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I can completely delete an HTML file and run the app and it still runs as it did. Clear cache and run and I then get the update.

It's running using IIS express using Firefox, Chrome, IE...

Thanks..

edited Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

asked Mar 26 '13 at 20:10

Brian

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I can completely delete an HTML file and run the app and it still runs as it did. Clear cache and run and I then get the update.

It's running using IIS express using Firefox, Chrome, IE...

Thanks..

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In Opera and Chrome (and possibly others), you can disable caching while in 'development mode'.

While in DevTools, the 2nd option in the Settings menu is

Disable cache (while DevTools is open)

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

add a comment |

Go to your web.config file and make a change in it.Its not matter what change you make.For example type a character and then delete it and build the project and run it again.I hope it works.

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

2

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

2

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

|
show 1 more comment

I also experienced this issue and turns out it was related to caching.

If using Chrome DevTools, you can simply disable cache by navigating to the Network Tab and ticking Disable Cache

This will only disable the cache when Dev Tools is open.

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

add a comment |

ctrl+shift+F5 will do the trick! Seems like browser cache is part of the problem :)

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

add a comment |

in my case iis express not updated site, but site , created by iis Manager worked correctly?

possible solution for this problem is
set "use this 64 bit version of iis express for web sites and projects" option at visual studio
it located at options->Projects and Solutions->Web projects

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

1

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

add a comment |

The browsers cache by default. You can turn off caching in your browser to get the changed files.

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

1

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

add a comment |

I found that I had the .js file open in the Chrome Developer Tools -> Sources View.

When I closed the file there and refreshed the page the new .js file showed up as expected.

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

add a comment |

If you just want to test locally You can try

A) Create Virtual Directory
Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Create Virtual directory

B) Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Drop down and change the selected value between Express and Local
Then Create Virtual directory

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

add a comment |

In case disabling the cache and editing the web.config file does not work.

Simply close the solution and reopen it and try it. Strange, but it worked for me.

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

add a comment |

I had an issue with moved .ts & .html files on the server and had to:

stop debugging

clear the whole output/dist folder inside my ClientApp

start debugging again

Ctrl-F5 to force the cache to refresh on the browser

Simply disabling the browser's cache, or forcing the .net app to recompile, or even running ng serve had no effect.

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

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In Opera and Chrome (and possibly others), you can disable caching while in 'development mode'.

While in DevTools, the 2nd option in the Settings menu is

Disable cache (while DevTools is open)

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

add a comment |

In Opera and Chrome (and possibly others), you can disable caching while in 'development mode'.

While in DevTools, the 2nd option in the Settings menu is

Disable cache (while DevTools is open)

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

add a comment |

In Opera and Chrome (and possibly others), you can disable caching while in 'development mode'.

While in DevTools, the 2nd option in the Settings menu is

Disable cache (while DevTools is open)

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

In Opera and Chrome (and possibly others), you can disable caching while in 'development mode'.

While in DevTools, the 2nd option in the Settings menu is

Disable cache (while DevTools is open)

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

answered Jul 1 '15 at 4:01

Mark Hebert

414412

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

add a comment |

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

This only solves the problem if the issue is on the browser side (which I previously faced also) but not if the issue is somewere in between the angular-.net saving changed files

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:31

add a comment |

Go to your web.config file and make a change in it.Its not matter what change you make.For example type a character and then delete it and build the project and run it again.I hope it works.

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

2

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

2

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

|
show 1 more comment

Go to your web.config file and make a change in it.Its not matter what change you make.For example type a character and then delete it and build the project and run it again.I hope it works.

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

2

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

2

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

|
show 1 more comment

Go to your web.config file and make a change in it.Its not matter what change you make.For example type a character and then delete it and build the project and run it again.I hope it works.

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

Go to your web.config file and make a change in it.Its not matter what change you make.For example type a character and then delete it and build the project and run it again.I hope it works.

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

answered Mar 26 '13 at 20:17

Hamid Reza

1,74173365

2

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

2

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

|
show 1 more comment

2

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

2

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

Please rather accept this as an answer. Turning off caching in your browser is not great for when you are browsing outside of development

– Adriaan Davel
Aug 1 '14 at 15:33

This does not work for me, still the old *.js files in "dynamic" are loaded and executed. The only effect is that VS forces you to restart the debug session.

– Matt
Dec 10 '14 at 14:26

This worked for me although I had tried everything else

– Steve Johnson
Apr 6 '16 at 12:57

i did that, but still have issue. no changes i see on live website.

– ALi
Feb 11 '17 at 21:16

I tried it with no success yet

– Laszlo Sarvold
Jul 25 '18 at 17:29

|
show 1 more comment

I also experienced this issue and turns out it was related to caching.

If using Chrome DevTools, you can simply disable cache by navigating to the Network Tab and ticking Disable Cache

This will only disable the cache when Dev Tools is open.

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

add a comment |

I also experienced this issue and turns out it was related to caching.

If using Chrome DevTools, you can simply disable cache by navigating to the Network Tab and ticking Disable Cache

This will only disable the cache when Dev Tools is open.

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

add a comment |

I also experienced this issue and turns out it was related to caching.

If using Chrome DevTools, you can simply disable cache by navigating to the Network Tab and ticking Disable Cache

This will only disable the cache when Dev Tools is open.

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

I also experienced this issue and turns out it was related to caching.

If using Chrome DevTools, you can simply disable cache by navigating to the Network Tab and ticking Disable Cache

This will only disable the cache when Dev Tools is open.

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

answered Feb 22 '17 at 19:58

benscabbia

8,78583249

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

add a comment |

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

This really helped and in my opinion should be marked as correct solution

– Santiago Rebella
Jun 13 '17 at 19:13

add a comment |

ctrl+shift+F5 will do the trick! Seems like browser cache is part of the problem :)

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

add a comment |

ctrl+shift+F5 will do the trick! Seems like browser cache is part of the problem :)

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

add a comment |

ctrl+shift+F5 will do the trick! Seems like browser cache is part of the problem :)

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

ctrl+shift+F5 will do the trick! Seems like browser cache is part of the problem :)

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

answered Apr 16 '15 at 8:50

Henry Aloni

574621

add a comment |

in my case iis express not updated site, but site , created by iis Manager worked correctly?

possible solution for this problem is
set "use this 64 bit version of iis express for web sites and projects" option at visual studio
it located at options->Projects and Solutions->Web projects

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

1

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

add a comment |

in my case iis express not updated site, but site , created by iis Manager worked correctly?

possible solution for this problem is
set "use this 64 bit version of iis express for web sites and projects" option at visual studio
it located at options->Projects and Solutions->Web projects

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

1

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

add a comment |

in my case iis express not updated site, but site , created by iis Manager worked correctly?

possible solution for this problem is
set "use this 64 bit version of iis express for web sites and projects" option at visual studio
it located at options->Projects and Solutions->Web projects

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

in my case iis express not updated site, but site , created by iis Manager worked correctly?

possible solution for this problem is
set "use this 64 bit version of iis express for web sites and projects" option at visual studio
it located at options->Projects and Solutions->Web projects

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

answered Jan 21 '16 at 9:23

user5695027

7112

1

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

add a comment |

1

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

thank you its helped me so much.

– Matan Tubul
Feb 16 '16 at 8:31

add a comment |

The browsers cache by default. You can turn off caching in your browser to get the changed files.

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

1

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

add a comment |

The browsers cache by default. You can turn off caching in your browser to get the changed files.

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

1

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

add a comment |

The browsers cache by default. You can turn off caching in your browser to get the changed files.

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

The browsers cache by default. You can turn off caching in your browser to get the changed files.

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

edited Mar 27 '13 at 23:12

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

answered Mar 26 '13 at 23:31

John Papa

17.1k45259

1

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

add a comment |

1

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

See other solution from Hamid, this answer is only good for temporarily recache things, however caching should be turned back on.

– aggaton
Aug 21 '14 at 17:08

this answer is for when developing. under develop this setting should always be on

– John Papa
Jul 13 '15 at 18:14

add a comment |

I found that I had the .js file open in the Chrome Developer Tools -> Sources View.

When I closed the file there and refreshed the page the new .js file showed up as expected.

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

add a comment |

I found that I had the .js file open in the Chrome Developer Tools -> Sources View.

When I closed the file there and refreshed the page the new .js file showed up as expected.

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

add a comment |

I found that I had the .js file open in the Chrome Developer Tools -> Sources View.

When I closed the file there and refreshed the page the new .js file showed up as expected.

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

I found that I had the .js file open in the Chrome Developer Tools -> Sources View.

When I closed the file there and refreshed the page the new .js file showed up as expected.

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

answered Aug 26 '16 at 13:03

Mark Miller

364

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

add a comment |

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

this wasmy issue but why? i did refreshed the page when it was open maybe chrome tools is not updating the file?

– Geomorillo
Mar 21 '17 at 22:55

add a comment |

If you just want to test locally You can try

A) Create Virtual Directory
Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Create Virtual directory

B) Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Drop down and change the selected value between Express and Local
Then Create Virtual directory

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

add a comment |

If you just want to test locally You can try

A) Create Virtual Directory
Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Create Virtual directory

B) Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Drop down and change the selected value between Express and Local
Then Create Virtual directory

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

add a comment |

If you just want to test locally You can try

A) Create Virtual Directory
Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Create Virtual directory

B) Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Drop down and change the selected value between Express and Local
Then Create Virtual directory

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

If you just want to test locally You can try

A) Create Virtual Directory
Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Create Virtual directory

B) Follow below path: Project / Properties / Web

Find Servers section
Click on Drop down and change the selected value between Express and Local
Then Create Virtual directory

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

answered Nov 19 '18 at 21:28

Locke1211

112

add a comment |

In case disabling the cache and editing the web.config file does not work.

Simply close the solution and reopen it and try it. Strange, but it worked for me.

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

add a comment |

In case disabling the cache and editing the web.config file does not work.

Simply close the solution and reopen it and try it. Strange, but it worked for me.

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

add a comment |

In case disabling the cache and editing the web.config file does not work.

Simply close the solution and reopen it and try it. Strange, but it worked for me.

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

In case disabling the cache and editing the web.config file does not work.

Simply close the solution and reopen it and try it. Strange, but it worked for me.

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

answered Aug 28 '17 at 6:09

thebenman

1,042921

add a comment |

I had an issue with moved .ts & .html files on the server and had to:

stop debugging

clear the whole output/dist folder inside my ClientApp

start debugging again

Ctrl-F5 to force the cache to refresh on the browser

Simply disabling the browser's cache, or forcing the .net app to recompile, or even running ng serve had no effect.

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

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I had an issue with moved .ts & .html files on the server and had to:

stop debugging

clear the whole output/dist folder inside my ClientApp

start debugging again

Ctrl-F5 to force the cache to refresh on the browser

Simply disabling the browser's cache, or forcing the .net app to recompile, or even running ng serve had no effect.

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

add a comment |

I had an issue with moved .ts & .html files on the server and had to:

stop debugging

clear the whole output/dist folder inside my ClientApp

start debugging again

Ctrl-F5 to force the cache to refresh on the browser

Simply disabling the browser's cache, or forcing the .net app to recompile, or even running ng serve had no effect.

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

I had an issue with moved .ts & .html files on the server and had to:

stop debugging

clear the whole output/dist folder inside my ClientApp

start debugging again

Ctrl-F5 to force the cache to refresh on the browser

Simply disabling the browser's cache, or forcing the .net app to recompile, or even running ng serve had no effect.

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

answered Nov 26 '18 at 23:46

monty

967621

add a comment |

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