If $E|X_n|to E|X|$ then $X_n overset{1}{rightarrow} X$ [closed]












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If $E|X_n|to E|X|$ then $X_n overset{1}{rightarrow} X$. I can't find a counterexample to prove that this is not necessarily true. Any hints?










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    Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
    – user10354138
    Nov 21 '18 at 1:52










  • What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
    – Batominovski
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:13










  • @Batominovski That's right.
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:16












  • Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
    – antkam
    Nov 21 '18 at 20:07
















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If $E|X_n|to E|X|$ then $X_n overset{1}{rightarrow} X$. I can't find a counterexample to prove that this is not necessarily true. Any hints?










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closed as off-topic by Batominovski, user10354138, user26857, Lee David Chung Lin, Gibbs Nov 22 '18 at 11:09


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  • "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." – Batominovski, user10354138, user26857, Lee David Chung Lin, Gibbs

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    Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
    – user10354138
    Nov 21 '18 at 1:52










  • What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
    – Batominovski
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:13










  • @Batominovski That's right.
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:16












  • Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
    – antkam
    Nov 21 '18 at 20:07














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If $E|X_n|to E|X|$ then $X_n overset{1}{rightarrow} X$. I can't find a counterexample to prove that this is not necessarily true. Any hints?










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If $E|X_n|to E|X|$ then $X_n overset{1}{rightarrow} X$. I can't find a counterexample to prove that this is not necessarily true. Any hints?







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closed as off-topic by Batominovski, user10354138, user26857, Lee David Chung Lin, Gibbs Nov 22 '18 at 11:09


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closed as off-topic by Batominovski, user10354138, user26857, Lee David Chung Lin, Gibbs Nov 22 '18 at 11:09


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    Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
    – user10354138
    Nov 21 '18 at 1:52










  • What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
    – Batominovski
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:13










  • @Batominovski That's right.
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:16












  • Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
    – antkam
    Nov 21 '18 at 20:07














  • 1




    Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
    – user10354138
    Nov 21 '18 at 1:52










  • What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
    – Batominovski
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:13










  • @Batominovski That's right.
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 2:16












  • Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
    – antkam
    Nov 21 '18 at 20:07








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Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
– user10354138
Nov 21 '18 at 1:52




Hint: Try $X_n,Xgeq 0$ and $mathbb{E}X_n=mathbb{E}X$.
– user10354138
Nov 21 '18 at 1:52












What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
– Batominovski
Nov 21 '18 at 2:13




What does $X_noverset{1}{to}X$ mean? Convergence in $L^1$?
– Batominovski
Nov 21 '18 at 2:13












@Batominovski That's right.
– Bayesian guy
Nov 21 '18 at 2:16






@Batominovski That's right.
– Bayesian guy
Nov 21 '18 at 2:16














Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
– antkam
Nov 21 '18 at 20:07




Forget about the subscript $n$ and the (implied) series. If you have just two r.v.s and $E[Y]=E[X]$, does that imply $Y=X$ in any sense? Surely not.
– antkam
Nov 21 '18 at 20:07










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$X_n=-1,X=1$ is a counterexample.






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  • Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:44






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    @Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 21 '18 at 23:08


















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$X_n=-1,X=1$ is a counterexample.






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  • Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:44






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    @Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 21 '18 at 23:08
















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$X_n=-1,X=1$ is a counterexample.






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  • Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:44






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    @Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 21 '18 at 23:08














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$X_n=-1,X=1$ is a counterexample.






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$X_n=-1,X=1$ is a counterexample.







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answered Nov 21 '18 at 9:55









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  • Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:44






  • 1




    @Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 21 '18 at 23:08


















  • Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
    – Bayesian guy
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:44






  • 1




    @Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 21 '18 at 23:08
















Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
– Bayesian guy
Nov 21 '18 at 18:44




Thanks. And what about the case without the absolute value, is it still false?
– Bayesian guy
Nov 21 '18 at 18:44




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1




@Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 21 '18 at 23:08




@Bayesianguy Take $X$ standard normal and $X_n=-X$ for all $n$.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 21 '18 at 23:08



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