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Consider again the coupon collector's problem:




There are $c$ different types of coupon, and each coupon obtained is
equally likely to be any one of the $c$ types. Find the probability that
the first $n$ coupons which you collect do not form a complete set, and
deduce an expression for the mean number of coupons you will need to
collect before you have a complete set.




For the probability that the first $n$ coupons do not form a complete set, it will be the complementary probability that the first $n$ coupons do form a complete set, thus:
$$
mathbb{P}(ntext{ coupons, not complete set}) = 1 - {n choose c} left(frac{1}{c}right)^c.
$$

The idea for this expression is that the sequences of length $n$ that have at least the $c$ coupons are equal to the number of ways that $c$ elements can be disposed on a sequence of length $n$, thus ${n choose c}$. The sequence of $c$ distinct coupons has probability $c^{-c}$, and as I do not care about the remaining $n-c$ spots in the sequence, these can be anything.



For the mean number of coupons needed to collect before having a complete set, I would say:
$$
sum_{m=c}^infty m {m-1 choose c-1} left(frac{1}{c}right)^{c-1}left(frac{c-1}{c}right)^{m-c-1}frac{1}{c},
$$

as in this case for every length $m$ we need to count the number of sequences which contain all the $c$ distinct coupons, but the last coupon of the collection must be in the $m$-th place, so we need to dispose $c-1$ coupons in $m-1$ places. In the remaining $m-c$ places we can allow any coupon except for the last one we need, so the probability is $frac{c-1}{c}$.



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    Consider again the coupon collector's problem:




    There are $c$ different types of coupon, and each coupon obtained is
    equally likely to be any one of the $c$ types. Find the probability that
    the first $n$ coupons which you collect do not form a complete set, and
    deduce an expression for the mean number of coupons you will need to
    collect before you have a complete set.




    For the probability that the first $n$ coupons do not form a complete set, it will be the complementary probability that the first $n$ coupons do form a complete set, thus:
    $$
    mathbb{P}(ntext{ coupons, not complete set}) = 1 - {n choose c} left(frac{1}{c}right)^c.
    $$

    The idea for this expression is that the sequences of length $n$ that have at least the $c$ coupons are equal to the number of ways that $c$ elements can be disposed on a sequence of length $n$, thus ${n choose c}$. The sequence of $c$ distinct coupons has probability $c^{-c}$, and as I do not care about the remaining $n-c$ spots in the sequence, these can be anything.



    For the mean number of coupons needed to collect before having a complete set, I would say:
    $$
    sum_{m=c}^infty m {m-1 choose c-1} left(frac{1}{c}right)^{c-1}left(frac{c-1}{c}right)^{m-c-1}frac{1}{c},
    $$

    as in this case for every length $m$ we need to count the number of sequences which contain all the $c$ distinct coupons, but the last coupon of the collection must be in the $m$-th place, so we need to dispose $c-1$ coupons in $m-1$ places. In the remaining $m-c$ places we can allow any coupon except for the last one we need, so the probability is $frac{c-1}{c}$.



    What do you think? If I am correct, is there a way to compute the summation?










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      Consider again the coupon collector's problem:




      There are $c$ different types of coupon, and each coupon obtained is
      equally likely to be any one of the $c$ types. Find the probability that
      the first $n$ coupons which you collect do not form a complete set, and
      deduce an expression for the mean number of coupons you will need to
      collect before you have a complete set.




      For the probability that the first $n$ coupons do not form a complete set, it will be the complementary probability that the first $n$ coupons do form a complete set, thus:
      $$
      mathbb{P}(ntext{ coupons, not complete set}) = 1 - {n choose c} left(frac{1}{c}right)^c.
      $$

      The idea for this expression is that the sequences of length $n$ that have at least the $c$ coupons are equal to the number of ways that $c$ elements can be disposed on a sequence of length $n$, thus ${n choose c}$. The sequence of $c$ distinct coupons has probability $c^{-c}$, and as I do not care about the remaining $n-c$ spots in the sequence, these can be anything.



      For the mean number of coupons needed to collect before having a complete set, I would say:
      $$
      sum_{m=c}^infty m {m-1 choose c-1} left(frac{1}{c}right)^{c-1}left(frac{c-1}{c}right)^{m-c-1}frac{1}{c},
      $$

      as in this case for every length $m$ we need to count the number of sequences which contain all the $c$ distinct coupons, but the last coupon of the collection must be in the $m$-th place, so we need to dispose $c-1$ coupons in $m-1$ places. In the remaining $m-c$ places we can allow any coupon except for the last one we need, so the probability is $frac{c-1}{c}$.



      What do you think? If I am correct, is there a way to compute the summation?










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      Consider again the coupon collector's problem:




      There are $c$ different types of coupon, and each coupon obtained is
      equally likely to be any one of the $c$ types. Find the probability that
      the first $n$ coupons which you collect do not form a complete set, and
      deduce an expression for the mean number of coupons you will need to
      collect before you have a complete set.




      For the probability that the first $n$ coupons do not form a complete set, it will be the complementary probability that the first $n$ coupons do form a complete set, thus:
      $$
      mathbb{P}(ntext{ coupons, not complete set}) = 1 - {n choose c} left(frac{1}{c}right)^c.
      $$

      The idea for this expression is that the sequences of length $n$ that have at least the $c$ coupons are equal to the number of ways that $c$ elements can be disposed on a sequence of length $n$, thus ${n choose c}$. The sequence of $c$ distinct coupons has probability $c^{-c}$, and as I do not care about the remaining $n-c$ spots in the sequence, these can be anything.



      For the mean number of coupons needed to collect before having a complete set, I would say:
      $$
      sum_{m=c}^infty m {m-1 choose c-1} left(frac{1}{c}right)^{c-1}left(frac{c-1}{c}right)^{m-c-1}frac{1}{c},
      $$

      as in this case for every length $m$ we need to count the number of sequences which contain all the $c$ distinct coupons, but the last coupon of the collection must be in the $m$-th place, so we need to dispose $c-1$ coupons in $m-1$ places. In the remaining $m-c$ places we can allow any coupon except for the last one we need, so the probability is $frac{c-1}{c}$.



      What do you think? If I am correct, is there a way to compute the summation?







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