A problem on Catalan numbers












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Suppose two candidates A and B poll the same number of votes, $n$ each,
in an election. The counting of votes is usually done in some arbitrary order and
therefore, during the counting process A may lead for some period and B may lead for
some period. Prove that the number of ways of counting the votes such that A never trails B is
the $n^{th}$ catalan number.



I know that in such questions we are supposed to analyse the problem by dropping a few terms. For example, in this one, we can drop the $2n^{th}$ vote and check it for $2n-1$ votes, but it doesn't seem to be correct since I won't get catalan number. Can someone please help in getting a combinatorial argument/proof for this? Thanks!










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    Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
    – Robert Z
    Nov 21 '18 at 6:35










  • Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
    – Ankit Kumar
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:04






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    Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:45


















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Suppose two candidates A and B poll the same number of votes, $n$ each,
in an election. The counting of votes is usually done in some arbitrary order and
therefore, during the counting process A may lead for some period and B may lead for
some period. Prove that the number of ways of counting the votes such that A never trails B is
the $n^{th}$ catalan number.



I know that in such questions we are supposed to analyse the problem by dropping a few terms. For example, in this one, we can drop the $2n^{th}$ vote and check it for $2n-1$ votes, but it doesn't seem to be correct since I won't get catalan number. Can someone please help in getting a combinatorial argument/proof for this? Thanks!










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  • 1




    Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
    – Robert Z
    Nov 21 '18 at 6:35










  • Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
    – Ankit Kumar
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:04






  • 1




    Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:45
















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Suppose two candidates A and B poll the same number of votes, $n$ each,
in an election. The counting of votes is usually done in some arbitrary order and
therefore, during the counting process A may lead for some period and B may lead for
some period. Prove that the number of ways of counting the votes such that A never trails B is
the $n^{th}$ catalan number.



I know that in such questions we are supposed to analyse the problem by dropping a few terms. For example, in this one, we can drop the $2n^{th}$ vote and check it for $2n-1$ votes, but it doesn't seem to be correct since I won't get catalan number. Can someone please help in getting a combinatorial argument/proof for this? Thanks!










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Suppose two candidates A and B poll the same number of votes, $n$ each,
in an election. The counting of votes is usually done in some arbitrary order and
therefore, during the counting process A may lead for some period and B may lead for
some period. Prove that the number of ways of counting the votes such that A never trails B is
the $n^{th}$ catalan number.



I know that in such questions we are supposed to analyse the problem by dropping a few terms. For example, in this one, we can drop the $2n^{th}$ vote and check it for $2n-1$ votes, but it doesn't seem to be correct since I won't get catalan number. Can someone please help in getting a combinatorial argument/proof for this? Thanks!







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    Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
    – Robert Z
    Nov 21 '18 at 6:35










  • Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
    – Ankit Kumar
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:04






  • 1




    Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:45
















  • 1




    Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
    – Robert Z
    Nov 21 '18 at 6:35










  • Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
    – Ankit Kumar
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:04






  • 1




    Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
    – Jean-Claude Arbaut
    Nov 21 '18 at 7:45










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Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
– Robert Z
Nov 21 '18 at 6:35




Read sections 1.3 and 2.4 of geometer.org/mathcircles/catalan.pdf
– Robert Z
Nov 21 '18 at 6:35












Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
– Ankit Kumar
Nov 21 '18 at 7:04




Ya it's nice and thanks a lot for it. But, i was looking for more of a combinatorial proof
– Ankit Kumar
Nov 21 '18 at 7:04




1




1




Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 21 '18 at 7:45






Consider each vote for $A$ as an opening parenthesis, and each vote for $B$ as a closing parenthesis. What are you counting now?
– Jean-Claude Arbaut
Nov 21 '18 at 7:45












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