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For a standard ellipse, a chord subtends an angle of $90^{circ}$ with the centre $(0,0)$ . To find the locus of the foot of perpendicular to this chord from the centre of the ellipse, I wrote the equation of chord with parameters $ A , B$:



$$frac xaspacecos{A+Bover 2} + frac ybspacesin{A+Bover 2} = cos{A-Bover 2}$$
Since an angle of $90^{circ}$ is subtended at the centre, I get the condition that $tan Atan B = -dfrac {a^2}{ b^2}$



By imposing the condition that FoP is perpendicular to the chord, I get $dfrac {ax}btan{A+Bover 2} = y$.



Eliminiating A and B is a hassle here. Is there a more general way to solving such kinds of problems? This is an ellipse here, it can be a hyperbola, or parabola next.










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For a standard ellipse, a chord subtends an angle of $90^{circ}$ with the centre $(0,0)$ . To find the locus of the foot of perpendicular to this chord from the centre of the ellipse, I wrote the equation of chord with parameters $ A , B$:



$$frac xaspacecos{A+Bover 2} + frac ybspacesin{A+Bover 2} = cos{A-Bover 2}$$
Since an angle of $90^{circ}$ is subtended at the centre, I get the condition that $tan Atan B = -dfrac {a^2}{ b^2}$



By imposing the condition that FoP is perpendicular to the chord, I get $dfrac {ax}btan{A+Bover 2} = y$.



Eliminiating A and B is a hassle here. Is there a more general way to solving such kinds of problems? This is an ellipse here, it can be a hyperbola, or parabola next.










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For a standard ellipse, a chord subtends an angle of $90^{circ}$ with the centre $(0,0)$ . To find the locus of the foot of perpendicular to this chord from the centre of the ellipse, I wrote the equation of chord with parameters $ A , B$:



$$frac xaspacecos{A+Bover 2} + frac ybspacesin{A+Bover 2} = cos{A-Bover 2}$$
Since an angle of $90^{circ}$ is subtended at the centre, I get the condition that $tan Atan B = -dfrac {a^2}{ b^2}$



By imposing the condition that FoP is perpendicular to the chord, I get $dfrac {ax}btan{A+Bover 2} = y$.



Eliminiating A and B is a hassle here. Is there a more general way to solving such kinds of problems? This is an ellipse here, it can be a hyperbola, or parabola next.










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For a standard ellipse, a chord subtends an angle of $90^{circ}$ with the centre $(0,0)$ . To find the locus of the foot of perpendicular to this chord from the centre of the ellipse, I wrote the equation of chord with parameters $ A , B$:



$$frac xaspacecos{A+Bover 2} + frac ybspacesin{A+Bover 2} = cos{A-Bover 2}$$
Since an angle of $90^{circ}$ is subtended at the centre, I get the condition that $tan Atan B = -dfrac {a^2}{ b^2}$



By imposing the condition that FoP is perpendicular to the chord, I get $dfrac {ax}btan{A+Bover 2} = y$.



Eliminiating A and B is a hassle here. Is there a more general way to solving such kinds of problems? This is an ellipse here, it can be a hyperbola, or parabola next.







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    please excuse the fact that I havent used Latex. I'm not well-versed with it as of yet
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– Sat D
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Okay to solve questions like these, let the chord be $y = mx + c$. Homogenize this chord with the ellipse to get a POSL. Since angle between lines is π/2, apply condition $coeff(x^2) + coeff(y^2) = 0$, to get $c = φ(m)$. Then put the condition that slope of FoP will be $-1/m$ and solve it with $y = mx + c$, and eliminate m to get locus.






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    Let $r$ be a line of equation $y=mx$, passing through the origin and intersecting the ellipse at
    $$
    A=left({aboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}},{maboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}}right).
    $$

    A line perpendicular to $r$ has equation $y=(-1/m)x$ and intersects the ellipse at
    $$
    B=left({maboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}},{-aboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}}right).
    $$

    You can now compute the distance of the origin from line $AB$, to find that it doesn't depend on $m$: the desired locus is then a circle, centred at the origin and having that distance as radius.






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      Okay to solve questions like these, let the chord be $y = mx + c$. Homogenize this chord with the ellipse to get a POSL. Since angle between lines is π/2, apply condition $coeff(x^2) + coeff(y^2) = 0$, to get $c = φ(m)$. Then put the condition that slope of FoP will be $-1/m$ and solve it with $y = mx + c$, and eliminate m to get locus.






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        Okay to solve questions like these, let the chord be $y = mx + c$. Homogenize this chord with the ellipse to get a POSL. Since angle between lines is π/2, apply condition $coeff(x^2) + coeff(y^2) = 0$, to get $c = φ(m)$. Then put the condition that slope of FoP will be $-1/m$ and solve it with $y = mx + c$, and eliminate m to get locus.






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          Okay to solve questions like these, let the chord be $y = mx + c$. Homogenize this chord with the ellipse to get a POSL. Since angle between lines is π/2, apply condition $coeff(x^2) + coeff(y^2) = 0$, to get $c = φ(m)$. Then put the condition that slope of FoP will be $-1/m$ and solve it with $y = mx + c$, and eliminate m to get locus.






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          Okay to solve questions like these, let the chord be $y = mx + c$. Homogenize this chord with the ellipse to get a POSL. Since angle between lines is π/2, apply condition $coeff(x^2) + coeff(y^2) = 0$, to get $c = φ(m)$. Then put the condition that slope of FoP will be $-1/m$ and solve it with $y = mx + c$, and eliminate m to get locus.







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              Let $r$ be a line of equation $y=mx$, passing through the origin and intersecting the ellipse at
              $$
              A=left({aboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}},{maboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}}right).
              $$

              A line perpendicular to $r$ has equation $y=(-1/m)x$ and intersects the ellipse at
              $$
              B=left({maboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}},{-aboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}}right).
              $$

              You can now compute the distance of the origin from line $AB$, to find that it doesn't depend on $m$: the desired locus is then a circle, centred at the origin and having that distance as radius.






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                Let $r$ be a line of equation $y=mx$, passing through the origin and intersecting the ellipse at
                $$
                A=left({aboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}},{maboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}}right).
                $$

                A line perpendicular to $r$ has equation $y=(-1/m)x$ and intersects the ellipse at
                $$
                B=left({maboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}},{-aboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}}right).
                $$

                You can now compute the distance of the origin from line $AB$, to find that it doesn't depend on $m$: the desired locus is then a circle, centred at the origin and having that distance as radius.






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                  Let $r$ be a line of equation $y=mx$, passing through the origin and intersecting the ellipse at
                  $$
                  A=left({aboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}},{maboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}}right).
                  $$

                  A line perpendicular to $r$ has equation $y=(-1/m)x$ and intersects the ellipse at
                  $$
                  B=left({maboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}},{-aboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}}right).
                  $$

                  You can now compute the distance of the origin from line $AB$, to find that it doesn't depend on $m$: the desired locus is then a circle, centred at the origin and having that distance as radius.






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                  Let $r$ be a line of equation $y=mx$, passing through the origin and intersecting the ellipse at
                  $$
                  A=left({aboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}},{maboversqrt{m^2a^2+b^2}}right).
                  $$

                  A line perpendicular to $r$ has equation $y=(-1/m)x$ and intersects the ellipse at
                  $$
                  B=left({maboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}},{-aboversqrt{a^2+m^2b^2}}right).
                  $$

                  You can now compute the distance of the origin from line $AB$, to find that it doesn't depend on $m$: the desired locus is then a circle, centred at the origin and having that distance as radius.







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