Proving Riemann integrability using sequences of Riemann sums
I am trying to prove the following:
Suppose $ f:[a,b]rightarrowmathbb{R} $ is bounded. Then $ f $ is Riemann integrable if and only if for each sequence of marked partitions ${P_n}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0$, the sequence ${S(P_n,f)}$ is convergent
,where $mu(P)$ is the mesh of partition $P$ and $S(P,f)$ is the Riemann sum of $f$ over partition $P$.
My attempt at a solution:
Suppose for each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $ {S(P_n,f)}$ converges.
Let $epsilon>0$ be given. Then there is an $Ainmathbb{R}$ and $Ninmathbb{N}$ such that when $n>N$, there exists $delta$ such that $mu(P_n)<deltaimplies |S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$
Then, by the theorem provided by leo below, the existence of $A$ implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable.
Now suppose $f$ is integrable. Then given $epsilon>0$, there exists $Ainmathbb{R}$ such that there exists $delta$ for which $mu(P)<deltaimplies |S(P,f)-A|<epsilon, forall P$.
Then for each sequence each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $mu(P_n)<delta$.
Then, $|S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$ which means that ${S(P_n,f)}$ converges to A. Also by the theorem below, $A=int f dt$
real-analysis
|
show 5 more comments
I am trying to prove the following:
Suppose $ f:[a,b]rightarrowmathbb{R} $ is bounded. Then $ f $ is Riemann integrable if and only if for each sequence of marked partitions ${P_n}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0$, the sequence ${S(P_n,f)}$ is convergent
,where $mu(P)$ is the mesh of partition $P$ and $S(P,f)$ is the Riemann sum of $f$ over partition $P$.
My attempt at a solution:
Suppose for each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $ {S(P_n,f)}$ converges.
Let $epsilon>0$ be given. Then there is an $Ainmathbb{R}$ and $Ninmathbb{N}$ such that when $n>N$, there exists $delta$ such that $mu(P_n)<deltaimplies |S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$
Then, by the theorem provided by leo below, the existence of $A$ implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable.
Now suppose $f$ is integrable. Then given $epsilon>0$, there exists $Ainmathbb{R}$ such that there exists $delta$ for which $mu(P)<deltaimplies |S(P,f)-A|<epsilon, forall P$.
Then for each sequence each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $mu(P_n)<delta$.
Then, $|S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$ which means that ${S(P_n,f)}$ converges to A. Also by the theorem below, $A=int f dt$
real-analysis
1
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
1
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02
|
show 5 more comments
I am trying to prove the following:
Suppose $ f:[a,b]rightarrowmathbb{R} $ is bounded. Then $ f $ is Riemann integrable if and only if for each sequence of marked partitions ${P_n}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0$, the sequence ${S(P_n,f)}$ is convergent
,where $mu(P)$ is the mesh of partition $P$ and $S(P,f)$ is the Riemann sum of $f$ over partition $P$.
My attempt at a solution:
Suppose for each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $ {S(P_n,f)}$ converges.
Let $epsilon>0$ be given. Then there is an $Ainmathbb{R}$ and $Ninmathbb{N}$ such that when $n>N$, there exists $delta$ such that $mu(P_n)<deltaimplies |S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$
Then, by the theorem provided by leo below, the existence of $A$ implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable.
Now suppose $f$ is integrable. Then given $epsilon>0$, there exists $Ainmathbb{R}$ such that there exists $delta$ for which $mu(P)<deltaimplies |S(P,f)-A|<epsilon, forall P$.
Then for each sequence each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $mu(P_n)<delta$.
Then, $|S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$ which means that ${S(P_n,f)}$ converges to A. Also by the theorem below, $A=int f dt$
real-analysis
I am trying to prove the following:
Suppose $ f:[a,b]rightarrowmathbb{R} $ is bounded. Then $ f $ is Riemann integrable if and only if for each sequence of marked partitions ${P_n}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0$, the sequence ${S(P_n,f)}$ is convergent
,where $mu(P)$ is the mesh of partition $P$ and $S(P,f)$ is the Riemann sum of $f$ over partition $P$.
My attempt at a solution:
Suppose for each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $ {S(P_n,f)}$ converges.
Let $epsilon>0$ be given. Then there is an $Ainmathbb{R}$ and $Ninmathbb{N}$ such that when $n>N$, there exists $delta$ such that $mu(P_n)<deltaimplies |S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$
Then, by the theorem provided by leo below, the existence of $A$ implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable.
Now suppose $f$ is integrable. Then given $epsilon>0$, there exists $Ainmathbb{R}$ such that there exists $delta$ for which $mu(P)<deltaimplies |S(P,f)-A|<epsilon, forall P$.
Then for each sequence each sequence of marked partitions ${P}$ with ${mu(P_n)}rightarrow0,$ $mu(P_n)<delta$.
Then, $|S(P_n,f)-A|<epsilon$ which means that ${S(P_n,f)}$ converges to A. Also by the theorem below, $A=int f dt$
real-analysis
real-analysis
edited Feb 1 '12 at 23:16
Shafat Arbaz Alam
asked Feb 1 '12 at 2:03
Shafat Arbaz AlamShafat Arbaz Alam
122119
122119
1
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
1
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02
|
show 5 more comments
1
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
1
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02
1
1
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
1
1
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02
|
show 5 more comments
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
Your statement should be an easy corollary of the Du bois-Reymond and Darboux integration theorem. The proof of the theorem is rather cumbersome. So here is a reference: the proof can be found in Analysis by Its History by Hairer and Wanner.
And by the way, you need to define what convergence as ${mu(P_n)}to 0$ and what marked partition mean.
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f104454%2fproving-riemann-integrability-using-sequences-of-riemann-sums%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
Your statement should be an easy corollary of the Du bois-Reymond and Darboux integration theorem. The proof of the theorem is rather cumbersome. So here is a reference: the proof can be found in Analysis by Its History by Hairer and Wanner.
And by the way, you need to define what convergence as ${mu(P_n)}to 0$ and what marked partition mean.
add a comment |
Your statement should be an easy corollary of the Du bois-Reymond and Darboux integration theorem. The proof of the theorem is rather cumbersome. So here is a reference: the proof can be found in Analysis by Its History by Hairer and Wanner.
And by the way, you need to define what convergence as ${mu(P_n)}to 0$ and what marked partition mean.
add a comment |
Your statement should be an easy corollary of the Du bois-Reymond and Darboux integration theorem. The proof of the theorem is rather cumbersome. So here is a reference: the proof can be found in Analysis by Its History by Hairer and Wanner.
And by the way, you need to define what convergence as ${mu(P_n)}to 0$ and what marked partition mean.
Your statement should be an easy corollary of the Du bois-Reymond and Darboux integration theorem. The proof of the theorem is rather cumbersome. So here is a reference: the proof can be found in Analysis by Its History by Hairer and Wanner.
And by the way, you need to define what convergence as ${mu(P_n)}to 0$ and what marked partition mean.
edited May 28 '16 at 7:11
answered May 28 '16 at 6:49
ArgyllArgyll
333213
333213
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f104454%2fproving-riemann-integrability-using-sequences-of-riemann-sums%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
What is $mu(P_n)$?
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 2:13
This is a notation I have seen for the mesh of a partition; this is the length of the longest interval in the partition.
– ncmathsadist
Feb 1 '12 at 2:16
Sorry, clarified
– Shafat Arbaz Alam
Feb 1 '12 at 2:21
Use the definition that says: $f$ is integrable over $[a,b]$ if there exist a number $I$ such that for every $epsilongt 0$ exist $deltagt 0$ s.t. if $P$ is partition of $[a,b]$ with $mu(P)ltdelta$, then $$|S(P_n,f)-I|ltepsilon.$$ Now I'm tired. I'll post an answer tomorrow if nobody does.
– leo
Feb 1 '12 at 3:10
1
Converges is enough: if two sequences converge to some different limits, interlace them to get a divergent sequence, which contradicts the hypothesis.
– Did
Feb 25 '12 at 12:02