Frobenius norm equality related to orthogonal projections












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Let $k > 1$. For which $v_1, v_2, dots, v_k in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$ with $Vert v_i Vert = 1$ holds the following equation
$$
leftVert prod_{i=1}^k v_i v_i^T rightVert_F = leftVert prod_{i=1}^k (I - v_i v_i^T) rightVert_F,
$$

where $Vert Vert_F$ indicates the Frobenius norm and $I$ is the identity matrix?










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    A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
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    @JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
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    $I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
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    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:39








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    @JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
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    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:42






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    @JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
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Let $k > 1$. For which $v_1, v_2, dots, v_k in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$ with $Vert v_i Vert = 1$ holds the following equation
$$
leftVert prod_{i=1}^k v_i v_i^T rightVert_F = leftVert prod_{i=1}^k (I - v_i v_i^T) rightVert_F,
$$

where $Vert Vert_F$ indicates the Frobenius norm and $I$ is the identity matrix?










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  • $begingroup$
    A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:37










  • $begingroup$
    $I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:39








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:42






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:55
















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$begingroup$


Let $k > 1$. For which $v_1, v_2, dots, v_k in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$ with $Vert v_i Vert = 1$ holds the following equation
$$
leftVert prod_{i=1}^k v_i v_i^T rightVert_F = leftVert prod_{i=1}^k (I - v_i v_i^T) rightVert_F,
$$

where $Vert Vert_F$ indicates the Frobenius norm and $I$ is the identity matrix?










share|cite|improve this question











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Let $k > 1$. For which $v_1, v_2, dots, v_k in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$ with $Vert v_i Vert = 1$ holds the following equation
$$
leftVert prod_{i=1}^k v_i v_i^T rightVert_F = leftVert prod_{i=1}^k (I - v_i v_i^T) rightVert_F,
$$

where $Vert Vert_F$ indicates the Frobenius norm and $I$ is the identity matrix?







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  • $begingroup$
    A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:37










  • $begingroup$
    $I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:39








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:42






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:55




















  • $begingroup$
    A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:36












  • $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:37










  • $begingroup$
    $I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Jan 15 at 19:39








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:42






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Schlecht
    Jan 15 at 19:55


















$begingroup$
A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Jan 15 at 19:36






$begingroup$
A Householder reflection has the form $I-color{red}2 VV^T$
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Jan 15 at 19:36














$begingroup$
@JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:37




$begingroup$
@JeanMarie I am aware of this. However, this is no typo. The original problem is derived from a Householder matrix. Maybe at this point, its not a good name anymore, I agree.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:37












$begingroup$
$I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Jan 15 at 19:39






$begingroup$
$I-VV^T$ is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto the hyperplane with normal vector $V$, whereas $VV^T$ (rank one matrix) is the matrix of the orthogonal projection onto vector $V$.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Jan 15 at 19:39






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$begingroup$
@JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:42




$begingroup$
@JeanMarie thanks for the explanation. I changed the title accordingly.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:42




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$begingroup$
@JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:55






$begingroup$
@JeanMarie right, and $k leq 1$
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Schlecht
Jan 15 at 19:55












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