If $f: I to X$ is a path and $c: I to X$ the constant path $c(s)=f(1)$, how is $f cdot c$ a reparametrization...












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If a reparametrization is defined to be a composition $f varphi$ where $varphi: I to I$ satisfies $varphi(0)=0$ and $varphi(1)=1$, how is $fcdot c$ a reparametrization if $c$ does not satisfy the definition?










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    Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
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    f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
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    @JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
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    @csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
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From Algebraic Topology by Hatcher:




Definition of reparametrization:



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If a reparametrization is defined to be a composition $f varphi$ where $varphi: I to I$ satisfies $varphi(0)=0$ and $varphi(1)=1$, how is $fcdot c$ a reparametrization if $c$ does not satisfy the definition?










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    Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
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    f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
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    – Joel Pereira
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    @JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
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    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:16












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    @csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
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    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:17
















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From Algebraic Topology by Hatcher:




Definition of reparametrization:



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If a reparametrization is defined to be a composition $f varphi$ where $varphi: I to I$ satisfies $varphi(0)=0$ and $varphi(1)=1$, how is $fcdot c$ a reparametrization if $c$ does not satisfy the definition?










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From Algebraic Topology by Hatcher:




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If a reparametrization is defined to be a composition $f varphi$ where $varphi: I to I$ satisfies $varphi(0)=0$ and $varphi(1)=1$, how is $fcdot c$ a reparametrization if $c$ does not satisfy the definition?







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    Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
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    – csprun
    Jan 21 at 22:33










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    f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
    $endgroup$
    – Joel Pereira
    Jan 21 at 22:53










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    @JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
    $endgroup$
    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:16












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    @csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
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    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:17
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
    $endgroup$
    – csprun
    Jan 21 at 22:33










  • $begingroup$
    f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
    $endgroup$
    – Joel Pereira
    Jan 21 at 22:53










  • $begingroup$
    @JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
    $endgroup$
    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:16












  • $begingroup$
    @csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
    $endgroup$
    – Wolfgang
    Jan 21 at 23:17










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$begingroup$
Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
$endgroup$
– csprun
Jan 21 at 22:33




$begingroup$
Here $fcdot c$ is multiplication of paths, so it means follow path $f$ for half the interval, then follow path $c$ for the other half (which just sits still). It’s a reparameterization by the function $phi$ whose graph is on the left there.
$endgroup$
– csprun
Jan 21 at 22:33












$begingroup$
f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
$endgroup$
– Joel Pereira
Jan 21 at 22:53




$begingroup$
f$cdot$c is a reparamterization if there exists $phi$ such that (f$cdot$c)$phi$ is a continuous map such that $phi$(0)=0 and $phi$(1)=1.
$endgroup$
– Joel Pereira
Jan 21 at 22:53












$begingroup$
@JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
$endgroup$
– Wolfgang
Jan 21 at 23:16






$begingroup$
@JoelPereira That is not what the definition is saying. According to the definition, what you have there, $(fcdot c)phi$, is a reparametrization of $fcdot c$. We want a reparametrization of $f$.
$endgroup$
– Wolfgang
Jan 21 at 23:16














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@csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
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– Wolfgang
Jan 21 at 23:17






$begingroup$
@csprun How is that a reparametrization according to the definition given?
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$fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
c(2t-1) & 1/2le tle 1
end{cases}$



so in fact



$fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
f(1) & 1/2le tle 1
end{cases}$



And since



$phi(t)= begin{cases}
2t & 0le tle 1/2 \
1 & 1/2le tle 1
end{cases}$
,



a simple calculation gives $phicirc f=ccdot f, $ as desired.



The other case is done in exactly the same way.






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    $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
    f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
    c(2t-1) & 1/2le tle 1
    end{cases}$



    so in fact



    $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
    f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
    f(1) & 1/2le tle 1
    end{cases}$



    And since



    $phi(t)= begin{cases}
    2t & 0le tle 1/2 \
    1 & 1/2le tle 1
    end{cases}$
    ,



    a simple calculation gives $phicirc f=ccdot f, $ as desired.



    The other case is done in exactly the same way.






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      $begingroup$

      $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
      f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
      c(2t-1) & 1/2le tle 1
      end{cases}$



      so in fact



      $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
      f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
      f(1) & 1/2le tle 1
      end{cases}$



      And since



      $phi(t)= begin{cases}
      2t & 0le tle 1/2 \
      1 & 1/2le tle 1
      end{cases}$
      ,



      a simple calculation gives $phicirc f=ccdot f, $ as desired.



      The other case is done in exactly the same way.






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        $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
        f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
        c(2t-1) & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$



        so in fact



        $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
        f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
        f(1) & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$



        And since



        $phi(t)= begin{cases}
        2t & 0le tle 1/2 \
        1 & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$
        ,



        a simple calculation gives $phicirc f=ccdot f, $ as desired.



        The other case is done in exactly the same way.






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        $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
        f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
        c(2t-1) & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$



        so in fact



        $fcdot c(t)= begin{cases}
        f(2t) & 0le tle 1/2 \
        f(1) & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$



        And since



        $phi(t)= begin{cases}
        2t & 0le tle 1/2 \
        1 & 1/2le tle 1
        end{cases}$
        ,



        a simple calculation gives $phicirc f=ccdot f, $ as desired.



        The other case is done in exactly the same way.







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