Is any $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$-function the product of two $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$-functions?












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Let $fin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$. Are we able to write $$f=gh$$ for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$? Unfortunately, I've no idea how to I could prove or disprove this.










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    We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
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    @Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
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    I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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Let $fin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$. Are we able to write $$f=gh$$ for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$? Unfortunately, I've no idea how to I could prove or disprove this.










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    We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
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    – Song
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    @Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
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    – 0xbadf00d
    Jan 29 at 13:04






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    I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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Let $fin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$. Are we able to write $$f=gh$$ for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$? Unfortunately, I've no idea how to I could prove or disprove this.










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Let $fin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$. Are we able to write $$f=gh$$ for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$? Unfortunately, I've no idea how to I could prove or disprove this.







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    $begingroup$
    We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
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    – Song
    Jan 29 at 12:58










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    @Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
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    – 0xbadf00d
    Jan 29 at 13:04






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    I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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    – Song
    Jan 29 at 13:11
















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    $begingroup$
    We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
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    – Song
    Jan 29 at 12:58










  • $begingroup$
    @Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
    $endgroup$
    – 0xbadf00d
    Jan 29 at 13:04






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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    – Song
    Jan 29 at 13:11










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We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
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– Song
Jan 29 at 12:58




$begingroup$
We can find $g in C_c(Bbb R)$ such that $g=1 $on $text{supp} f$ by Urysohn lemma.
$endgroup$
– Song
Jan 29 at 12:58












$begingroup$
@Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
$endgroup$
– 0xbadf00d
Jan 29 at 13:04




$begingroup$
@Song I didn't intend to write "for some $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$" (which is not even a meaningful sentence), but "for some $g,hin C_c^infty(mathbb R)$".
$endgroup$
– 0xbadf00d
Jan 29 at 13:04




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$begingroup$
I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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– Song
Jan 29 at 13:11






$begingroup$
I didn't recognize it was $C^infty_c(Bbb R)$, sorry. But we can take care of it by convoluting $g$ with smooth function $eta$ with support in $[-epsilon,epsilon]$ and $int eta =1$. You can see this Wikipedia page on mollifier and smooth cut-off function.
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There exists a smooth compactly supported function $g$ that is $1$ on an open ball containing the support of $f$. Then $f=fg$.



For the definition of $g$: let $h(r)=0$ if $r leq 0$ and $h(r)=e^{-1/r}$ if $r > 0$. It is well-known that $h$ is smooth. Let $h_1(r)=frac{h(r)}{h(r)+h(1-r)}$: $h_1$ is smooth, zero on $(-infty,0]$ and $1$ on $[1,infty)$.



Take now $g(x)=h_1left(2-frac{|x|^2}{R^2+1}right)$ where ${f neq 0} subset mathcal{B}(0,R)$.






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    There exists a smooth compactly supported function $g$ that is $1$ on an open ball containing the support of $f$. Then $f=fg$.



    For the definition of $g$: let $h(r)=0$ if $r leq 0$ and $h(r)=e^{-1/r}$ if $r > 0$. It is well-known that $h$ is smooth. Let $h_1(r)=frac{h(r)}{h(r)+h(1-r)}$: $h_1$ is smooth, zero on $(-infty,0]$ and $1$ on $[1,infty)$.



    Take now $g(x)=h_1left(2-frac{|x|^2}{R^2+1}right)$ where ${f neq 0} subset mathcal{B}(0,R)$.






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      There exists a smooth compactly supported function $g$ that is $1$ on an open ball containing the support of $f$. Then $f=fg$.



      For the definition of $g$: let $h(r)=0$ if $r leq 0$ and $h(r)=e^{-1/r}$ if $r > 0$. It is well-known that $h$ is smooth. Let $h_1(r)=frac{h(r)}{h(r)+h(1-r)}$: $h_1$ is smooth, zero on $(-infty,0]$ and $1$ on $[1,infty)$.



      Take now $g(x)=h_1left(2-frac{|x|^2}{R^2+1}right)$ where ${f neq 0} subset mathcal{B}(0,R)$.






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        There exists a smooth compactly supported function $g$ that is $1$ on an open ball containing the support of $f$. Then $f=fg$.



        For the definition of $g$: let $h(r)=0$ if $r leq 0$ and $h(r)=e^{-1/r}$ if $r > 0$. It is well-known that $h$ is smooth. Let $h_1(r)=frac{h(r)}{h(r)+h(1-r)}$: $h_1$ is smooth, zero on $(-infty,0]$ and $1$ on $[1,infty)$.



        Take now $g(x)=h_1left(2-frac{|x|^2}{R^2+1}right)$ where ${f neq 0} subset mathcal{B}(0,R)$.






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        There exists a smooth compactly supported function $g$ that is $1$ on an open ball containing the support of $f$. Then $f=fg$.



        For the definition of $g$: let $h(r)=0$ if $r leq 0$ and $h(r)=e^{-1/r}$ if $r > 0$. It is well-known that $h$ is smooth. Let $h_1(r)=frac{h(r)}{h(r)+h(1-r)}$: $h_1$ is smooth, zero on $(-infty,0]$ and $1$ on $[1,infty)$.



        Take now $g(x)=h_1left(2-frac{|x|^2}{R^2+1}right)$ where ${f neq 0} subset mathcal{B}(0,R)$.







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