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I am reading the proof of the statement that no non-zero multiplication operator on $L^2([0,1])$ is compact in this post. And I would like to address it as a seperate post as I am only curious about one of the step.
So We have ${f_n}$ orthonormal basis for $L^2([0,1])$ where $f_n=e^{2pi inx}$. We would like to show that for every nonzero $gin L^infty$, the sequence ${gf_n}$ is not Cauchy.
We start by writing $g=sum a_n f_n$ and $g f_k=sum a_nf_{n+k}$. Now we want to show that $ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert> c$ for some postive constant c.
now $gf_{k+j}-gf_k=sum c_n f_n$ and by Bessels's inequality we have
$ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert^2> sum |c_n|^2$. My question is in our case, how do we now any of the $|c_n|$ is non-zero?
Thanks for your help!
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I am reading the proof of the statement that no non-zero multiplication operator on $L^2([0,1])$ is compact in this post. And I would like to address it as a seperate post as I am only curious about one of the step.
So We have ${f_n}$ orthonormal basis for $L^2([0,1])$ where $f_n=e^{2pi inx}$. We would like to show that for every nonzero $gin L^infty$, the sequence ${gf_n}$ is not Cauchy.
We start by writing $g=sum a_n f_n$ and $g f_k=sum a_nf_{n+k}$. Now we want to show that $ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert> c$ for some postive constant c.
now $gf_{k+j}-gf_k=sum c_n f_n$ and by Bessels's inequality we have
$ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert^2> sum |c_n|^2$. My question is in our case, how do we now any of the $|c_n|$ is non-zero?
Thanks for your help!
real-analysis functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces orthonormal
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I am reading the proof of the statement that no non-zero multiplication operator on $L^2([0,1])$ is compact in this post. And I would like to address it as a seperate post as I am only curious about one of the step.
So We have ${f_n}$ orthonormal basis for $L^2([0,1])$ where $f_n=e^{2pi inx}$. We would like to show that for every nonzero $gin L^infty$, the sequence ${gf_n}$ is not Cauchy.
We start by writing $g=sum a_n f_n$ and $g f_k=sum a_nf_{n+k}$. Now we want to show that $ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert> c$ for some postive constant c.
now $gf_{k+j}-gf_k=sum c_n f_n$ and by Bessels's inequality we have
$ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert^2> sum |c_n|^2$. My question is in our case, how do we now any of the $|c_n|$ is non-zero?
Thanks for your help!
real-analysis functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces orthonormal
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I am reading the proof of the statement that no non-zero multiplication operator on $L^2([0,1])$ is compact in this post. And I would like to address it as a seperate post as I am only curious about one of the step.
So We have ${f_n}$ orthonormal basis for $L^2([0,1])$ where $f_n=e^{2pi inx}$. We would like to show that for every nonzero $gin L^infty$, the sequence ${gf_n}$ is not Cauchy.
We start by writing $g=sum a_n f_n$ and $g f_k=sum a_nf_{n+k}$. Now we want to show that $ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert> c$ for some postive constant c.
now $gf_{k+j}-gf_k=sum c_n f_n$ and by Bessels's inequality we have
$ lVert gf_{k+j}-gf_klVert^2> sum |c_n|^2$. My question is in our case, how do we now any of the $|c_n|$ is non-zero?
Thanks for your help!
real-analysis functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces orthonormal
real-analysis functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces orthonormal
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We have
$$begin{split}
gf_{k+j}-gf_k &=sum a_nf_{n+k+j}-sum a_nf_{n+k}\
&=sum (a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k})f_n
end{split}$$
Therefore, $c_n=a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k}$. So, there must be at least one $c_n$ that's non-zero, because if there weren't any, you'd have $a_{n-k-j}=a_{n-k}$ for all $n$. That is, you'd have $a_n=a_{n+j}$ for all $n$, which would imply that either $a_n$ is zero for all $n$, or that $$|g|^2 = sum |a_n|^2 = +infty$$
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We have
$$begin{split}
gf_{k+j}-gf_k &=sum a_nf_{n+k+j}-sum a_nf_{n+k}\
&=sum (a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k})f_n
end{split}$$
Therefore, $c_n=a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k}$. So, there must be at least one $c_n$ that's non-zero, because if there weren't any, you'd have $a_{n-k-j}=a_{n-k}$ for all $n$. That is, you'd have $a_n=a_{n+j}$ for all $n$, which would imply that either $a_n$ is zero for all $n$, or that $$|g|^2 = sum |a_n|^2 = +infty$$
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We have
$$begin{split}
gf_{k+j}-gf_k &=sum a_nf_{n+k+j}-sum a_nf_{n+k}\
&=sum (a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k})f_n
end{split}$$
Therefore, $c_n=a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k}$. So, there must be at least one $c_n$ that's non-zero, because if there weren't any, you'd have $a_{n-k-j}=a_{n-k}$ for all $n$. That is, you'd have $a_n=a_{n+j}$ for all $n$, which would imply that either $a_n$ is zero for all $n$, or that $$|g|^2 = sum |a_n|^2 = +infty$$
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We have
$$begin{split}
gf_{k+j}-gf_k &=sum a_nf_{n+k+j}-sum a_nf_{n+k}\
&=sum (a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k})f_n
end{split}$$
Therefore, $c_n=a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k}$. So, there must be at least one $c_n$ that's non-zero, because if there weren't any, you'd have $a_{n-k-j}=a_{n-k}$ for all $n$. That is, you'd have $a_n=a_{n+j}$ for all $n$, which would imply that either $a_n$ is zero for all $n$, or that $$|g|^2 = sum |a_n|^2 = +infty$$
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We have
$$begin{split}
gf_{k+j}-gf_k &=sum a_nf_{n+k+j}-sum a_nf_{n+k}\
&=sum (a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k})f_n
end{split}$$
Therefore, $c_n=a_{n-k-j}-a_{n-k}$. So, there must be at least one $c_n$ that's non-zero, because if there weren't any, you'd have $a_{n-k-j}=a_{n-k}$ for all $n$. That is, you'd have $a_n=a_{n+j}$ for all $n$, which would imply that either $a_n$ is zero for all $n$, or that $$|g|^2 = sum |a_n|^2 = +infty$$
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