Where to subscribe for Redis Pub/Sub in Laravel?












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I've been using Redis's Pub/Sub a bit in my application and so far it has been great. I am able to send out a Publish out of Laravel to a different backend process that is able to Subscribe, and eventually Publish an event back to Laravel.



The use case for the user looks like:



submit a form -> wait for a response (a few minutes) -> proceed with transaction



On the backend:



the form posts to a route, then to a controller that publishes this to a subscribed 3rd party (channel one), and eventually that 3rd party publishes back (channel two)



Main Issue: I don't know where the appropriate place to be for subscribing to the (channel two) and processing what gets published there.



Ideally, I'd be able to process Publish requests in two ways:




  1. Letting the user know that their form has been processed and they can move onto the next step (probably with an update to a property a Vue component)


  2. Storing information from the publish into my database.



In the docs, they have it in a Command, which if I try to use here would look like so:



public function handle()
{
Redis::subscribe('channel-two', function ($message) {
// update the client so that the user moves on
// send $message contents to the database
});
}


but that doesn't really seem ideal for me since I want this channel subscribed to 24/7, always listening. Even if it is in a Command, it is still apparent how I would best update the client.



Where in my Laravel project should I be subscribing at? Is there a best practice to respond to these events?










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    I've been using Redis's Pub/Sub a bit in my application and so far it has been great. I am able to send out a Publish out of Laravel to a different backend process that is able to Subscribe, and eventually Publish an event back to Laravel.



    The use case for the user looks like:



    submit a form -> wait for a response (a few minutes) -> proceed with transaction



    On the backend:



    the form posts to a route, then to a controller that publishes this to a subscribed 3rd party (channel one), and eventually that 3rd party publishes back (channel two)



    Main Issue: I don't know where the appropriate place to be for subscribing to the (channel two) and processing what gets published there.



    Ideally, I'd be able to process Publish requests in two ways:




    1. Letting the user know that their form has been processed and they can move onto the next step (probably with an update to a property a Vue component)


    2. Storing information from the publish into my database.



    In the docs, they have it in a Command, which if I try to use here would look like so:



    public function handle()
    {
    Redis::subscribe('channel-two', function ($message) {
    // update the client so that the user moves on
    // send $message contents to the database
    });
    }


    but that doesn't really seem ideal for me since I want this channel subscribed to 24/7, always listening. Even if it is in a Command, it is still apparent how I would best update the client.



    Where in my Laravel project should I be subscribing at? Is there a best practice to respond to these events?










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      I've been using Redis's Pub/Sub a bit in my application and so far it has been great. I am able to send out a Publish out of Laravel to a different backend process that is able to Subscribe, and eventually Publish an event back to Laravel.



      The use case for the user looks like:



      submit a form -> wait for a response (a few minutes) -> proceed with transaction



      On the backend:



      the form posts to a route, then to a controller that publishes this to a subscribed 3rd party (channel one), and eventually that 3rd party publishes back (channel two)



      Main Issue: I don't know where the appropriate place to be for subscribing to the (channel two) and processing what gets published there.



      Ideally, I'd be able to process Publish requests in two ways:




      1. Letting the user know that their form has been processed and they can move onto the next step (probably with an update to a property a Vue component)


      2. Storing information from the publish into my database.



      In the docs, they have it in a Command, which if I try to use here would look like so:



      public function handle()
      {
      Redis::subscribe('channel-two', function ($message) {
      // update the client so that the user moves on
      // send $message contents to the database
      });
      }


      but that doesn't really seem ideal for me since I want this channel subscribed to 24/7, always listening. Even if it is in a Command, it is still apparent how I would best update the client.



      Where in my Laravel project should I be subscribing at? Is there a best practice to respond to these events?










      share|improve this question














      I've been using Redis's Pub/Sub a bit in my application and so far it has been great. I am able to send out a Publish out of Laravel to a different backend process that is able to Subscribe, and eventually Publish an event back to Laravel.



      The use case for the user looks like:



      submit a form -> wait for a response (a few minutes) -> proceed with transaction



      On the backend:



      the form posts to a route, then to a controller that publishes this to a subscribed 3rd party (channel one), and eventually that 3rd party publishes back (channel two)



      Main Issue: I don't know where the appropriate place to be for subscribing to the (channel two) and processing what gets published there.



      Ideally, I'd be able to process Publish requests in two ways:




      1. Letting the user know that their form has been processed and they can move onto the next step (probably with an update to a property a Vue component)


      2. Storing information from the publish into my database.



      In the docs, they have it in a Command, which if I try to use here would look like so:



      public function handle()
      {
      Redis::subscribe('channel-two', function ($message) {
      // update the client so that the user moves on
      // send $message contents to the database
      });
      }


      but that doesn't really seem ideal for me since I want this channel subscribed to 24/7, always listening. Even if it is in a Command, it is still apparent how I would best update the client.



      Where in my Laravel project should I be subscribing at? Is there a best practice to respond to these events?







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          Redis::subscribe is used in a command like in that example for listening on a given channel continuously.



          From the docs:




          First, let's setup a channel listener using the subscribe method. We'll place this method call within an Artisan command since calling the subscribe method begins a long-running process:




          You'll want to run the command using a process manager like supervisor or pm2, much the same as the docs describe running queue listeners.






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          • So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

            – Stamson
            Jan 1 at 20:58











          • Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:26











          • As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:29











          • Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

            – Stamson
            Jan 2 at 0:11











          • No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 2 at 0:47













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          Redis::subscribe is used in a command like in that example for listening on a given channel continuously.



          From the docs:




          First, let's setup a channel listener using the subscribe method. We'll place this method call within an Artisan command since calling the subscribe method begins a long-running process:




          You'll want to run the command using a process manager like supervisor or pm2, much the same as the docs describe running queue listeners.






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          • So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

            – Stamson
            Jan 1 at 20:58











          • Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:26











          • As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:29











          • Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

            – Stamson
            Jan 2 at 0:11











          • No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 2 at 0:47


















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          Redis::subscribe is used in a command like in that example for listening on a given channel continuously.



          From the docs:




          First, let's setup a channel listener using the subscribe method. We'll place this method call within an Artisan command since calling the subscribe method begins a long-running process:




          You'll want to run the command using a process manager like supervisor or pm2, much the same as the docs describe running queue listeners.






          share|improve this answer
























          • So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

            – Stamson
            Jan 1 at 20:58











          • Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:26











          • As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:29











          • Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

            – Stamson
            Jan 2 at 0:11











          • No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 2 at 0:47
















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          Redis::subscribe is used in a command like in that example for listening on a given channel continuously.



          From the docs:




          First, let's setup a channel listener using the subscribe method. We'll place this method call within an Artisan command since calling the subscribe method begins a long-running process:




          You'll want to run the command using a process manager like supervisor or pm2, much the same as the docs describe running queue listeners.






          share|improve this answer













          Redis::subscribe is used in a command like in that example for listening on a given channel continuously.



          From the docs:




          First, let's setup a channel listener using the subscribe method. We'll place this method call within an Artisan command since calling the subscribe method begins a long-running process:




          You'll want to run the command using a process manager like supervisor or pm2, much the same as the docs describe running queue listeners.







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          • So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

            – Stamson
            Jan 1 at 20:58











          • Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:26











          • As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:29











          • Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

            – Stamson
            Jan 2 at 0:11











          • No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 2 at 0:47





















          • So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

            – Stamson
            Jan 1 at 20:58











          • Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:26











          • As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 1 at 23:29











          • Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

            – Stamson
            Jan 2 at 0:11











          • No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

            – DigitalDrifter
            Jan 2 at 0:47



















          So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

          – Stamson
          Jan 1 at 20:58





          So you would still recommend putting it in a Command? I suppose that works for running it 24/7 which is good. Any idea how I can get that event to update my client-side?

          – Stamson
          Jan 1 at 20:58













          Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 1 at 23:26





          Yes having it run through a command is how I've run similar services. In order for the event to be received client side, you'll need to run a server that broadcasts the notifications to client subscribed to the appropriate channels. Laravel Echo is the frameworks offering that handles receiving notifications, while applications like laravel-echo-server, pusher and most recently laravel-websockets handle the broadcasting.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 1 at 23:26













          As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 1 at 23:29





          As an aside, I've recently integrated laravel-websockets into a major project and have been very happy with the results. It is a drop-in replacement for pusher purpose built to work with Laravel. I highly recommend you look into it first.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 1 at 23:29













          Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

          – Stamson
          Jan 2 at 0:11





          Aren’t those all Redis replacements? I feel like Redis pub/sub has done 99% of what I need it to do, so it doesn’t really feel right pulling in a whole different library just to get the Publishes down to client side.

          – Stamson
          Jan 2 at 0:11













          No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 2 at 0:47







          No, they are websocket libraries for client-server communication. Redis is still an integral part of the system.

          – DigitalDrifter
          Jan 2 at 0:47






















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