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I need help with the following question:




Let S and T be linear operators (V to V) such that for every v in V:



$S(T(v)) = S(v)$



$T(S(v)) = T(v)$



Prove: $ker(T) = ker(S)$




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    Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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I need help with the following question:




Let S and T be linear operators (V to V) such that for every v in V:



$S(T(v)) = S(v)$



$T(S(v)) = T(v)$



Prove: $ker(T) = ker(S)$




Thanks in advance!










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    Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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I need help with the following question:




Let S and T be linear operators (V to V) such that for every v in V:



$S(T(v)) = S(v)$



$T(S(v)) = T(v)$



Prove: $ker(T) = ker(S)$




Thanks in advance!










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I need help with the following question:




Let S and T be linear operators (V to V) such that for every v in V:



$S(T(v)) = S(v)$



$T(S(v)) = T(v)$



Prove: $ker(T) = ker(S)$




Thanks in advance!







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    Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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    Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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Let $xinker T$. Then, $T(x)=0$ implying that $S(x)=S(T(x))=S(0)=0$ since $F(0)=0$ for any linear operator $F$, so $xinker S$. This shows $ker Tsubseteqker S$. Can you show the other way around?
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Prove the double inclusion. Try it yourself before reading below.





Here a proof.



If $vin text{Ker } T$ then $T(v)=0$, and the first assumption implies that $0=S(0)=S(v)$, so that $vin text{Ker } S$. The other inclusion can be proved in the same way by using the second assumption.






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    Hint: If $v in ker{S}$, then by definition $T(S(v)) = T(0)$. Since $T$ is a linear transformation, what must $T(0)$ be?






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      Prove the double inclusion. Try it yourself before reading below.





      Here a proof.



      If $vin text{Ker } T$ then $T(v)=0$, and the first assumption implies that $0=S(0)=S(v)$, so that $vin text{Ker } S$. The other inclusion can be proved in the same way by using the second assumption.






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        Prove the double inclusion. Try it yourself before reading below.





        Here a proof.



        If $vin text{Ker } T$ then $T(v)=0$, and the first assumption implies that $0=S(0)=S(v)$, so that $vin text{Ker } S$. The other inclusion can be proved in the same way by using the second assumption.






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          Prove the double inclusion. Try it yourself before reading below.





          Here a proof.



          If $vin text{Ker } T$ then $T(v)=0$, and the first assumption implies that $0=S(0)=S(v)$, so that $vin text{Ker } S$. The other inclusion can be proved in the same way by using the second assumption.






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          Prove the double inclusion. Try it yourself before reading below.





          Here a proof.



          If $vin text{Ker } T$ then $T(v)=0$, and the first assumption implies that $0=S(0)=S(v)$, so that $vin text{Ker } S$. The other inclusion can be proved in the same way by using the second assumption.







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              Hint: If $v in ker{S}$, then by definition $T(S(v)) = T(0)$. Since $T$ is a linear transformation, what must $T(0)$ be?






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                Hint: If $v in ker{S}$, then by definition $T(S(v)) = T(0)$. Since $T$ is a linear transformation, what must $T(0)$ be?






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                  Hint: If $v in ker{S}$, then by definition $T(S(v)) = T(0)$. Since $T$ is a linear transformation, what must $T(0)$ be?






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                  Hint: If $v in ker{S}$, then by definition $T(S(v)) = T(0)$. Since $T$ is a linear transformation, what must $T(0)$ be?







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